• Totalbiscuit - What happened to G2A and Gearbox?
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[QUOTE=Drury;52068439]10:20 couldn't disagree more, it was nice not having to skip for once[/QUOTE] Its nice that he has a video thats not 6 hours long with him just rambling. Id watch more if they were nice and condensed like this.
Gearbox pulls out, instead of taking blame they are pushing it to people can fly [url]https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/gearbox-backs-out-of-criticized-bulletstorm-deal-with-shady-key-reseller-g2a[/url] [QUOTE]On Twitter, Gearbox co-founder Randy Pitchford said Bulletstorm developer People Can Fly originally got the ball rolling with G2A. It's not surprising, then, to learn both People Can Fly and G2A have roots in Poland. (G2A started in Poland, but is now centered in Hong Kong.) Pitchford claimed he was unaware of the deal until very recently.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wii60;52074867]Gearbox pulls out, instead of taking blame they are pushing it to people can fly [url]https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/gearbox-backs-out-of-criticized-bulletstorm-deal-with-shady-key-reseller-g2a[/url][/QUOTE] Even Totalbiscuit had a feeling they'd flake, but to deflect like this is so goddamn irresponsible
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52074913]These AAA devs and all those indie devs and Valve need to get together to class action these fucks until there isn't money left in the world to collect.[/QUOTE] I'm thinking that it would be difficult to file lawsuits against them since they're based in Hong Kong, which is a shame because I feel they could and should be hold accountable for money laundering. EDIT: [QUOTE=Wii60;52074867]Gearbox pulls out, instead of taking blame they are pushing it to people can fly [url]https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/gearbox-backs-out-of-criticized-bulletstorm-deal-with-shady-key-reseller-g2a[/url][/QUOTE] If this is true, then it just goes to show how poorly managed Gearbox is (though it's apparent pretty much either way).
[QUOTE=Wii60;52074867]Gearbox pulls out, instead of taking blame they are pushing it to people can fly [url]https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/gearbox-backs-out-of-criticized-bulletstorm-deal-with-shady-key-reseller-g2a[/url][/QUOTE] Ah for fuck's sake.
[quote]Pitchford claimed he was unaware of the deal until very recently.[/quote] What a load of shit.
[QUOTE=Wii60;52074867]Gearbox pulls out, instead of taking blame they are pushing it to people can fly [url]https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/gearbox-backs-out-of-criticized-bulletstorm-deal-with-shady-key-reseller-g2a[/url][/QUOTE] Randy Pitchford fucking up? Whoa! Never have seen this before. :wideeye:
He's about as insulated as you can get, pretty funny considering his show office is a giant transparent cube.
[QUOTE=Wii60;52074867]Gearbox pulls out, instead of taking blame they are pushing it to people can fly [url]https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/gearbox-backs-out-of-criticized-bulletstorm-deal-with-shady-key-reseller-g2a[/url][/QUOTE] CEO of company claims ignorance of big project said company is doing. Randy, who are you trying to fool?
[QUOTE=ThePanther;52070527]Somehow I doubt that this will substantially affect G2A's consumer base. People will continue to buy from the cheapest source, whether it's wrong or not.[/QUOTE] Honestly why not just pirate the games at that point? I don't get it.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;52068602]I buy games from Kinguin sometimes, I haven't heard any horror stories but I am getting increasingly wary of key sites in general. Always had people wondering if G2A was legit (clearly not) but never really any others.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure kinguin and G2A are operated by the exact same company, afaik anyway.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52075471]Honestly why not just pirate the games at that point? I don't get it.[/QUOTE] some people want to still have the game in their library/not deal with cracks/lack of multiplayer/etc.
Piracy is literally less harmful to the devs than buying fraudulent keys.
Piracy isn't as appealing for big releases now. Everything big is using Denuvo which mostly takes weeks to crack if it gets cracked at all (I know there are a few exceptions). Then like said before you don't get access to multiplayer and such so piracy isn't perfect and if the game is mp centric then it's not even an option. I'm not defending people buying fraudulent keys, just answering the question that was asked.
Randy is probably fine with it considering Gearbox haven't made a game worth stealing in years.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;52076020]Randy is probably fine with it considering Gearbox haven't made a game worth stealing in years.[/QUOTE] Or made a game with thier own money, from sega and 3Drealms
[QUOTE=PieClock;52075854]Piracy isn't as appealing for big releases now. Everything big is using Denuvo which mostly takes weeks to crack if it gets cracked at all (I know there are a few exceptions). Then like said before you don't get access to multiplayer and such so piracy isn't perfect and if the game is mp centric then it's not even an option. I'm not defending people buying fraudulent keys, just answering the question that was asked.[/QUOTE] There are actually some online fixes for some recent games, at least ones that are based on steamworks. Funny part is, if anything Denuvo drives pirates to those keysites or other means of getting the game which is more harmful as people said. Then again, there are enough pirates who don't bother with a game at all if its not available cracked. People who want to demo the game might not buy the game as well.
[QUOTE=SoUl_ReApEr2;52076340]Or made a game with thier own money, from sega and 3Drealms[/QUOTE] Their best game was Half-Life: Opposing Force, which was also coincidentally their first game.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52075471]Honestly why not just pirate the games at that point? I don't get it.[/QUOTE] Unless the game has been out for a long time, pirating is more inconvenient. Back when I did pirate games, it took forever to download a newly released game and then I'd have to fiddle around trying to get the game to work and often times it would not. Buying games was just way more convenient, especially because of Steam and Steam sales. These days the only games I would possibly pirate would be an ubisoft game since I hate dealing with uplay and it's just as much as a hassle as pirating. Bulletstorm is actually a game I should have pirated since I bought it on release for $60 and the devs never fixed the well known GFWL live bug(or patched it out) that prevented half their players from being able to save or use the online functions. I had to download a crack just to play a game I bought that the devs abandoned on release and left as a crappy port and then blamed piracy for sales. Now they expect people to pay $60 to rebuy the game after they fucked up the first time. It's a damn shame too since I had a lot of fun with it
[QUOTE=Citrus705;52071200]We all make mistakes[/QUOTE] Yeah [t]https://f.lewd.se/LZKVrI_2017-04-0920-03-49.png[/t] :worried:
never used G2A but i have gotten a number of games before release for reduced price from greenmangaming, what is the scoop on them? do they get their keys via stolen credit cards or do they do the whole "buy em cheap and region-free from russia and resell them" [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] every key i've gotten from them has been legit
Yeah, GMG is legit.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52081548]never used G2A but i have gotten a number of games before release for reduced price from greenmangaming, what is the scoop on them? do they get their keys via stolen credit cards or do they do the whole "buy em cheap and region-free from russia and resell them" [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] every key i've gotten from them has been legit[/QUOTE] I'm guessing they're asking a lower percentage than Valve so a lot of publishers might sells keys to them for cheaper.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52081548]never used G2A but i have gotten a number of games before release for reduced price from greenmangaming, what is the scoop on them? do they get their keys via stolen credit cards or do they do the whole "buy em cheap and region-free from russia and resell them" [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] every key i've gotten from them has been legit[/QUOTE] GMG are a legit site, they get their keys straight from the publishers. They just sell games for a much smaller profit than steam does, with the downside being that they have to send you the key and they may not get the keys from the publishers immediately.
[URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1560000"]Well this ended as expected.[/URL]
How is greenmangaming in comparison? I use them a lot, I hope I'm not supporting shady ass practices like g2a.
Some of the comments on these G2A videos are horrible. I've seen many saying they don't care and someone even said the devs are greedy for selling their games at a normal price. :what: Also sad seeing some comments just saying it's cheaper so who cares and that they "don't give a fuck about developers." Direct quote. :disappoint:
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;52086990]How is greenmangaming in comparison? I use them a lot, I hope I'm not supporting shady ass practices like g2a.[/QUOTE] Greenmangaming is a site that acquires keys to sell directly to you, there's no bullshit involved and they're essentially like a second store site for Steam games in terms of functionality with their own separate and frequent sales. G2A and sites like it, such as Kinguin, has you buying keys from vendors and resellers who gained extra keys or bought up their own. This means all liability falls onto you as to whether you trust the vendor enough to dare with trying to buy a key from them, and the site itself tries to do various methods to make money off of you if you want protection against key fraud or worse. I'll be serious, i've bought a bunch of games from GMG before, and the only time they gave me trouble was when they accidentally didn't give me my XCOM Enemy Unknown key with a Bioshock Infinite bundle that included those two games and the other two Bioshock games. I message them on support, it took a couple days, but I got the key and that was that.
I recommend Cdkeys.com as well. I'm unsure how they get their keys but I expect it to be from publishers considering there's no additional crap invovled of having multiple regions to buy from or some service on top for a sale. You just have a price that's lower than Steam/Origin and you get the key straight away after purchase. I've bough a bunch of stuff from them, my first purchase was Battlefield 4 when it just came out and since that time been using the site and it works wonders.
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;52088648]I recommend Cdkeys.com as well. I'm unsure how they get their keys but I expect it to be from publishers considering there's no additional crap invovled of having multiple regions to buy from or some service on top for a sale. You just have a price that's lower than Steam/Origin and you get the key straight away after purchase. I've bough a bunch of stuff from them, my first purchase was Battlefield 4 when it just came out and since that time been using the site and it works wonders.[/QUOTE] Yeah I've always enjoyed that site.
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