Former Mexican President doubles down, drops another F-bomb on Fox News "I am not going to pay for t - General

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49835549]MEXICO![/QUOTE] I want your 100% honest opinion on why in the bloody world should MEXICO pay for OUR wall. Mexico doesn't want that wall up, guess what, apparently Trump does. Mexico has absolutely no rhyme or reason to pay for our problem, and I applaud them standing up to that fact.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;49855029]I want your 100% honest opinion on why in the bloody world should MEXICO pay for OUR wall. Mexico doesn't want that wall up, guess what, apparently Trump does. Mexico has absolutely no rhyme or reason to pay for our problem, and I applaud them standing up to that fact.[/QUOTE] It's like you live next to a Chicken farmer; the farmer doesn't have any fences up, and there's better grass over on your lawn, so the Chickens come over to your yard, eat your grass, etc... The problem isn't caused by you; it's caused by the Chicken farmer. Of course, that's not a great analogy because the real issue isn't the lack of a wall, it's that Mexico is ripe with corruption and is generally not doing so great. But the general point is Mexico's problems are spilling over into the US, in the form of Cartels primarily. So yes, it's our problem, but it's caused by Mexico inability to deal with their own problems.

[QUOTE=Camdude90;49834995]the poorer you make mexico the more people will want to get the the usa even harder, making a REAL high wall isn't gonna help that[/QUOTE] As a secondary side-effect, the poorer you make Mexico, the closer it edges towards violent change. We've already had one state in Mexico attempt to arm people against the Cartels.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;49834807]Fox's audience is mostly stupid people[/QUOTE] can you people grow the fuck up and stop generalizing the audience of a massive news network as stupid just because you don't like what they have to say? do you honestly enjoy being cynical misanthropes?

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856081]can you people grow the fuck up and stop generalizing the audience of a massive news network as stupid just because you don't like what they have to say? do you honestly enjoy being cynical misanthropes?[/QUOTE] Referring to the viewership of Fox News as unintelligent does not constitute an individual to be a "cynical misanthrope" in any way shape or form.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;49856113]Referring to the viewership of Fox News as unintelligent does not constitute an individual to be a "cynical misanthrope" in any way shape or form.[/QUOTE] yes it does. writing off a large demographic of people just because they disagree with you is pretty cynical and misanthropic. if it's not that then it's at least childish.

Misanthropy is the general hatred, distrust or contempt of the human species or human nature. It is often a derivative of anti-social tendencies. Quarantining a very specific political demographic fails to constitute hatred of the human race at whole.

fine. let's not use the word misanthrope then. let's just stick with the term immature brat because it's more fitting of people who shut off other people's opinions for being different from their own.

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856183]fine. let's not use the word misanthrope then. let's just stick with the term immature brat because it's more fitting of people who shut off other people's opinions for being different from their own.[/QUOTE] Not for being different they lie, manipulate, hide facts, and practice a method of argumentation typically seen as "Who ever yells the loudest". They employ people like Bill O'Reily who is a bully and a intellectually dishonest turd of a human being. Sean Hannity, a raging foundry of hatred and bullshit who tries to lie about the "Liebrals" as much as possible. Ann Coulter, same deal, but filled with more hatred, if that was even conceivable. I don't think you're going to have a good time arguing that they're a valid news network when their shit is more biased than from anyone else on TV at this time.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49856219]Not for being different they lie, manipulate, hide facts, and practice a method of argumentation typically seen as "Who ever yells the loudest". They employ people like Bill O'Reily who is a bully and a intellectually dishonest turd of a human being. Sean Hannity, a raging foundry of hatred and bullshit who tries to lie about the "Liebrals" as much as possible. Ann Coulter, same deal, but filled with more hatred, if that was even conceivable. I don't think you're going to have a good time arguing that they're a valid news network when their shit is more biased than from anyone else on TV at this time.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree with you. Major news networks are becoming less and less deserving of people's trust as they prove themselves to be more and more divisive, but I think it's completely childish to assume the worst of half a million people because they watch a major news network that aligns most with their beliefs.

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856242]I don't disagree with you. Major news networks are becoming less and less deserving of people's trust as they prove themselves to be more and more divisive, but I think it's completely childish to assume the worst of half a million people because they watch a major news network that aligns most with their beliefs.[/QUOTE] You keep saying childish, but I fail how it is "childish" to that the people that listen to, and support, a news network that has repeatedly spread misinformation and peddles the very worse of what US journalism has to offer, are ignorant. Supporting terrible things because it fits "your beliefs" is the definition of ignorance.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;49856403]You keep saying childish, but I fail how it is "childish" to that the people that listen to, and support, a news network that has repeatedly spread misinformation and peddles the very worse of what US journalism has to offer, are ignorant. Supporting terrible things because it fits "your beliefs" are the definition of ignorance.[/QUOTE] We're talking about normal people with better things to do than dig up information on Fox News. They're being manipulated yet all you do is call them stupid and put no effort forward to sympathize with them. Not every Fox viewer is Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter. Also they're not going to listen to people who have no respect for them anyways. When you constantly insult people, they aren't going to bother listening to you (ironic i know but the "republicans are stupid" circlejerk is fucking absolutely grating).

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856420]We're talking about normal people with better things to do than dig up information on Fox News. They're being manipulated yet all you do is call them stupid and put no effort forward to sympathize with them. Not every Fox viewer is Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter. Also they're not going to listen to people who have no respect for them anyways. When you constantly insult people, they aren't going to bother listening to you (ironic i know but the "republicans are stupid" circlejerk is fucking absolutely grating).[/QUOTE] So they are ignorant, then.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;49856429]So they are ignorant, then.[/QUOTE] They'll keep being ignorant if you treat them like dog shit. If you think they're so ignorant and you hate them for that, why don't you try educating some of them or engaging them in discussion? Oh wait you wont because it feels too good to be as smart as you. I'm sure it's a nice ego trip to lord over the lower class rednecks for being oh so stupid and oh so ignorant but eventually you should probably consider whether insulting them is doing jack shit other than asserting yourself as intellectually dominant over them. [QUOTE=Starpluck;49856546][IMG]https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-downswords.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] here is an artist's rendition of what it could potentially look like if i went peepee on your head [img]http://i.imgur.com/Q4TWBlX.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856453]They'll keep being ignorant if you treat them like dog shit. If you think they're so ignorant and you hate them for that, why don't you try educating some of them or engaging them in discussion? Oh wait you wont because it feels too good to be as smart as you. I'm sure it's a nice ego trip to lord over the lower class rednecks for being oh so stupid and oh so ignorant but eventually you should probably consider whether insulting them is doing jack shit other than asserting yourself as intellectually dominant over them.[/QUOTE][IMG]https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-downswords.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856242]I don't disagree with you. Major news networks are becoming less and less deserving of people's trust as they prove themselves to be more and more divisive, but I think it's completely childish to assume the worst of half a million people because they watch a major news network that aligns most with their beliefs.[/QUOTE] I mean sure at some level I understand your argument but due to people not caring about the world they're in beyond the next paycheque, we have let a whole host of shit occur and now we can't really just say "stop it you big meanies" and a lot of that has to come down to misinformation being perpetuated, and irrelevant things becoming the focus. I mean who the fuck else really ran with "Lets see Obamas long form birth certificate"? And I have to say, they wouldn't be able to run that story, and do it for so long, if they didn't get people to care about a non issue.

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856453]They'll keep being ignorant if you treat them like dog shit. If you think they're so ignorant and you hate them for that, why don't you try educating some of them or engaging them in discussion? Oh wait you wont because it feels too good to be as smart as you. I'm sure it's a nice ego trip to lord over the lower class rednecks for being oh so stupid and oh so ignorant but eventually you should probably consider whether insulting them is doing jack shit other than asserting yourself as intellectually dominant over them.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand, the one who is childishly riling up over things I didn't say and generalizations I didn't make, is you. Hell I don't think anybody in the thread claimed that Fox News' audience is nothing but lower class rednecks, so in arguing that my generalization was bad, you made one terrible generalization of your own. But no, I won't educate who doesn't want to be educated. I, as a private citizen after all, don't have much other means to fight Fox News, rather than state clearly what Fox News' flaws are, and hope that people seek other sources for their daily news, and echo my thoughts on the channel.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49856581]I mean sure at some level I understand your argument but due to people not caring about the world they're in beyond the next paycheque, we have let a whole host of shit occur and now we can't really just say "stop it you big meanies" and a lot of that has to come down to misinformation being perpetuated, and irrelevant things becoming the focus. I mean who the fuck else really ran with "Lets see Obamas long form birth certificate"? And I have to say, they wouldn't be able to run that story, and do it for so long, if they didn't get people to care about a non issue.[/QUOTE] I realize what you're saying, but if we want the manipulation to stop, we can't keep perpetuating the alienation of our opponents. We can't keep calling republicans stupid rednecks and we can't keep calling democrats freeloaders and yuppies. But this is just a little-known internet forum so I guess I'm just blowing hot air by criticizing people for not showing a little sympathy to the working class stiffs getting tossed around by the media when those working class stiffs probably don't even browse this forum. But fuck me if the hourly anti-trump circlejerk threads aren't a fucking pain in the ass to read. [QUOTE=Big Bang;49856622]I don't think you understand, the one who is childishly riling up over things I didn't say and generalizations I didn't make, is you. Hell I don't think anybody in the thread claimed that Fox News' audience is nothing but lower class rednecks, so in arguing that my generalization was bad, you made one terrible generalization of your own. But no, I won't educate who doesn't want to be educated. I, as a private citizen after all, don't have much other means to fight Fox News, rather than state clearly what Fox News' flaws are, and hope that people seek other sources for their daily news, and echo my thoughts on the channel.[/QUOTE] Just because nobody claimed Fox News' audience is lower class rednecks in this thread doesn't mean that it isn't the most common stereotype of them. Don't play the fool and act as if you've never heard of it. The gun-touting Fox-news-watching America-loving burger-eating republican-voting redneck moron. [QUOTE=kyle877;49856797]According to SoaringScout, you're a misanthrope if you dislike people that are willfully ignorant. oh wait, i mean an immature brat :^) lol[/QUOTE] aw man i got trolled :^( [QUOTE=Mining Bill;49858515]Tell me more!![/QUOTE] remember, this is a joke free zone

According to SoaringScout, you're a misanthrope if you dislike people that are willfully ignorant. oh wait, i mean an immature brat :^) [QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856453] here is an artist's rendition of what it could potentially look like if i went peepee on your head [img]http://i.imgur.com/Q4TWBlX.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] lol

[QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856183]let's just stick with the term immature brat because it's more fitting of people who shut off other people's opinions for being different from their own.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SoaringScout;49856453][img]http://i.imgur.com/Q4TWBlX.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Tell me more!!