Salo or The 120 Days Of Sodom- Probably The Most Fucked Up Movie Ever Made
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I just saw Serbian film...
That ending was so unnecessary, I was getting on board with the worst possible things done one after another, but it was going towards a sad ending that was heartfilled..
Then they had to ruin it :saddowns:
[QUOTE=professor cool.;25622500]i can say whatever i well want and who gives a shit?[/QUOTE]
No, no you can't.
[QUOTE=professor cool.;25622500]is he better than me or are we on equal ground?[/QUOTE]
He's better than you.
why
stiiiiill waiting on an answer brosef
[quote]show me where I "vociferously attacked" it [/quote]
watched it, was strange but really not that bad at all
[editline]25th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=professor cool.;25630904]why[/QUOTE]
can you quit posting? your guise of 'cinematic intellectual' has been torn down in every thread now, you're just pretending to know shit when really you know fuck all
[QUOTE=Rusty100;25631408]watched it, was strange but really not that bad at all
[editline]25th October 2010[/editline]
can you quit posting? your guise of 'cinematic intellectual' has been torn down in every thread now, you're just pretending to know shit when really you know fuck all[/QUOTE]
lol
[editline]25th October 2010[/editline]
i was ready to walk away, he reopened it.
[editline]25th October 2010[/editline]
but now, seriously, i AM done. i guess when i see a thread about a movie i dont like, ill say "in my opinion, this movie isn't so great" and then when people ask me why i think so i wont respond. good? good.
I have been wanting to see this film for a while but never got round to it. I think tonight I will, and will post back here afterwards. I've been reading the original literature it's based on bit by bit, so I know the kind of stuff to expect.
[QUOTE=Akayz;25625828]I just saw Serbian film...
That ending was so unnecessary, I was getting on board with the worst possible things done one after another, but it was going towards a sad ending that was heartfilled..
Then they had to ruin it :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
I actually liked the ending, each to their own I guess.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;25654099]
I actually liked the ending, each to their own I guess.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but [sp] them killing themselves and ending would've been the right thing to end it with [/sp]
but INSTEAD they [sp] had police guards there ready to fuck their bodies [/sp]
Unnecessary :saddowns:
[QUOTE=Akayz;25654116]I'm sorry but [sp] them killing themselves and ending would've been the right thing to end it with [/sp]
but INSTEAD they [sp] had police guards there ready to fuck their bodies [/sp]
Unnecessary :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
not unnecessary
it was a nice touch
kind of funny
[QUOTE=Rusty100;25654154]not unnecessary
it was a nice touch
kind of funny[/QUOTE]
It just ruined a heartfilled ending and made it funny.
Funny yes, but It was unfair :smile:
[QUOTE=Akayz;25654171]It just ruined a heartfilled ending and made it funny.
Funny yes, but It was unfair :smile:[/QUOTE]
that was the whole idea
deal with it
[QUOTE=Rusty100;25654184]that was the whole idea
deal with it[/QUOTE]
I'll have to give it another watch.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;25654184]that was the whole idea
deal with it[/QUOTE]
This.
The fact that the heartfelt ending was ruined by [sp] those guys going to fuck their corpses, starting with the kid [/sp] is intentional, plus the film is kind of darkly funny throughout so it seemed fitting.
[QUOTE=professor cool.;25578243]so is roman polanski, still makes (made) great movies![/QUOTE]
Polanski didn't live out his fantasies in disgusting films like this one.
[QUOTE=spekter;25625271]This is much worse.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Behind_the_Sun[/url]
It was all on youtube but got taken down. Some of the scenes are highly realistic for the time and its questionable if some of it was actually done.
There is a scene where they put a body in a huge microwave and heat it up, the organs come flying out of his asshole. Worst part is that its a real (dead) body with real organs coming out. The cat being killed by the rats is confirmed as real.[/QUOTE]
I didn't see Man Behind The Sun, but the director recently confirmed that the cat scene was fake.
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q1XCfYnjiM[/media]
[editline]27th October 2010[/editline]
here you can see them putting fake blood on the cat
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuN7plKIono[/MEDIA]
[editline]27th October 2010[/editline]
also watch the other videos they are interesting
I don't particularly like animal death scenes, I can't explain why really but they trouble me. I doubt I'll watch Men Behind The Sun for that reason.
I managed to watch half of Salo and have to wait to be able to watch the second :( so far, the original book of "120 Days Of Sodom" seems a lot more disturbing than this film...but then again, the worst should be in the latter half so I can't really judge yet.
This movie was boring, I watched it. I didn't find it disturbing just boring.
So from what I understand it's just a really fucked up sex movie with no point whatsoever then to disgust people?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;25687657]So from what I understand it's just a really fucked up sex movie with no point whatsoever then to disgust people?[/QUOTE]
No, its erratic nature just makes people think its bad. Its not a bad movie, but watch it with an open mind and not to be a freak to see "sick shit".
Serbian Film is there for that, go ahead...
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;25686637]I don't particularly like animal death scenes, I can't explain why really but they trouble me. I doubt I'll watch Men Behind The Sun for that reason.
I managed to watch half of Salo and have to wait to be able to watch the second :( so far, the original book of "120 Days Of Sodom" seems a lot more disturbing than this film...but then again, the worst should be in the latter half so I can't really judge yet.[/QUOTE]
The book, 120 Days of Sodom is basically a 1000 pages of stories like the woman describes in the film. Constant, never abating sick stories of paedophilia, coprophagia, autoerotic asphyxiation, etc etc. It's not really a great lierary achievement. Not the sort of book you'd pick up and read in the evening.
fuckin marquis de sade. what a card
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;25686703]This movie was boring, I watched it. I didn't find it disturbing just boring.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, don't mean to come off as a snob or someone who feigns 'cinema intellect' but...it sounds like you've missed the point. There are things about the movie that you can't really dismiss as boring, there is plenty to hold your interest - Pasolini's previous collaborations with Fellini are pretty obvious throughout and the set reminds the viewer a lot of his sets - particularly those of [I]Satyricon[/I] and [I]Roma[/I]. The proportions of the environments are very Kubrick, lots of big spaces with huge doorways and paintings framing everything. Visually it's an absolute treat.
The performances all round are excellent, the 4 main antagonists come off as the embodiment of pure, chaotic evil. There is very little semblance to notions of crime and punishment in the Dostoyevskian sense - never do the antagonists show any sign of granting mercy to any of their tormented subjects, and the notion of punishment is almost completely redundant, as they themselves thoroughly enjoy being sodomised, urinated on, etc. The complete lack of any verisimiltude is what really drew me in, got me thinking wow, what would I do if I was there, to try and break away and escape? I could strangle a guy in his sleep but he'd probably enjoy it.
There's lots to enjoy in this but I don't think it was an amazing film.
Well, I wasn't watching it with my full attention. Perhaps I should do that sometimes.
[QUOTE=Publius;25702852]The book, 120 Days of Sodom is basically a 1000 pages of stories like the woman describes in the film. Constant, never abating sick stories of paedophilia, coprophagia, autoerotic asphyxiation, etc etc. It's not really a great lierary achievement. Not the sort of book you'd pick up and read in the evening.[/QUOTE]
It was fucking weird, I found an e-copy on wikipedia a while ago and got curious. I didn't read all of it because it got a bit repetative in some points with the overly long descriptions, I pretty much read the beginning and end. What I found the most disturbing was the fact that Marquis De Sade seems like he really enjoys this stuff, and everything is so planned out in his mind into creepy detail :D it was like reading someone's intensely warped fantasy.
[QUOTE=Publius;25702961]Yeah, don't mean to come off as a snob or someone who feigns 'cinema intellect' but...it sounds like you've missed the point. There are things about the movie that you can't really dismiss as boring, there is plenty to hold your interest - Pasolini's previous collaborations with Fellini are pretty obvious throughout and the set reminds the viewer a lot of his sets - particularly those of [I]Satyricon[/I] and [I]Roma[/I]. The proportions of the environments are very Kubrick, lots of big spaces with huge doorways and paintings framing everything. Visually it's an absolute treat.
The performances all round are excellent, the 4 main antagonists come off as the embodiment of pure, chaotic evil. There is very little semblance to notions of crime and punishment in the Dostoyevskian sense - never do the antagonists show any sign of granting mercy to any of their tormented subjects, and the notion of punishment is almost completely redundant, as they themselves thoroughly enjoy being sodomised, urinated on, etc. The complete lack of any verisimiltude is what really drew me in, got me thinking wow, what would I do if I was there, to try and break away and escape? I could strangle a guy in his sleep but he'd probably enjoy it.
There's lots to enjoy in this but I don't think it was an amazing film.[/QUOTE]
Since you brought up thinking about what you would do in the situation, I couldn't help also think that any of the kids could have gone into one of the leaders rooms while they slept, take their gun, shoot them, and either run away or go around and picking off the rest of them in their sleep, it wouldn't be that hard. Or if I was part of the guard team they had I'd definitely start a mutiny against the antagonists, who would easily be overpowered by all the guards and their guns. It seems to me they had the most power, but never used it for their own. At any time they could have just decided 'Fuck it, this shit is fucked.' and kill the evil cunts and do the right thing, which is exactly what I'd do. Probably convince the rest of the guards that we'd be 'heroes' and 'get to kill people' and I'm positive they'd be swayed.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;25720159]It was fucking weird, I found an e-copy on wikipedia a while ago and got curious. I didn't read all of it because it got a bit repetative in some points with the overly long descriptions, I pretty much read the beginning and end. What I found the most disturbing was the fact that Marquis De Sade seems like he really enjoys this stuff, and everything is so planned out in his mind into creepy detail :D it was like reading someone's intensely warped fantasy.[/QUOTE]
And he wrote it all on a roll of toilet paper while in prison
Disturbing bump!
What's the reasoning behind the people doing this to random kids? Where did they get people that would do this to people and how are they not caught? There seems to be some plot holes, Or am taking this movie too seriously?
[QUOTE=skparagon;26082879]What's the reasoning behind the people doing this to random kids? Where did they get people that would do this to people and how are they not caught? There seems to be some plot holes, Or am taking this movie too seriously?[/QUOTE]
Far too seriously.
[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;25581157]I find it amusing how when a movie is deemed 'symbolic,' suddenly it becomes some piece of profound art.
I'll make a film of a three-legged dog humping a tortoise on top of a pile of raw cow brains & claim it's a metaphor for abortion. It'll become a cult classic.[/QUOTE]
What people consider art is bullshit these days. Spray Painted Pants in a frame? Art. A Dead body? Not Art, unless the artist says it's art, then people come from all over to see it...
A girl fingering herself with spaghettios? When would anyone consider this art unless the person who created it said it was art
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