[QUOTE=Titusmcgee;42013194]They aren't be paid, find a better way to support yourself. These people need to adapt to the way the internet is changing, with no ads.
The video is e-begging for you to turn off your adblock.[/QUOTE]
By that metality SOPA and PIPA were and are just things we need to accept and adapt to instead of fighting it because it just means the internet is changing.
[QUOTE=Killuah;42014488]It's known that Abp gets paid for letting certain adds through, use Ad block, not Abp.[/QUOTE]
Never heard of this. Because if it's even remotely true then they're doing a piss poor job as I haven't seen one single ad in years of using ABP.
[QUOTE=TestECull;42015570] There's a setting in ABP that lets 'non-obtrusive' ads...AKA ads served by whoever paid us last week...through. Turn that off and Youtube is useable again.[/QUOTE]
I think we're having different experiences on this option, because I have it turned on and the only ads I've seen are text based. And not "whoever paid up last week" or whatever.
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;42012026]I turn my Ad-block off usually when the ads are replaced with a genuine message from the site-owner asking to turn it off. If the adds are overly animated/distracting, I turn it back on. Otherwise I leave it off.[/QUOTE]
I've done that before and what ended up happening is I got bombarded with really awkward ads all over.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;42016946]Never heard of this. Because if it's even remotely true then they're doing a piss poor job as I haven't seen one single ad in years of using ABP.[/QUOTE]
Someone provided a source in another thread, forgot what it was though
[QUOTE=J!NX;42010655]or those emote ads
[B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][B]WHAAAAT[/B] [B]SAY WHAT AGAIN[/B][/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQ1nIs864U[/media]
fossilized gold by now but still
[QUOTE=ashxu;42017053][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQ1nIs864U[/media]
fossilized gold by now but still[/QUOTE]
are those even around still
holy fuck those things are ancient
The way you's are talking about ads on websites makes it sound like the sites become completely unusable, but honestly it isn't that bad. I've never used ad block, I guess I've just learnt to ignore ads. Yes, I hate the unskippable 30 second YouTube ads, and I've noticed that some videos that are long enough (>20 minutes) actually have an ad in the middle of the video, but many ads you can skip after five seconds and some actually do capture your attention. What I reckon would be really cool is if advertisers started making videos like those vine things; seven second videos would force advertisers to be creative I guess without disrupting the viewing experience of the user too much.
I'll probably never use ad block because I don't like the idea of depriving authors of income for doing what they love to do at no direct cost for the user. And hell, if the author doesn't want to collect that money why couldn't they just do what cr1tikal does and donate it all to charity? But anyways the person behind one of my favourite channels on YouTube (GregsKitchen) uses the revenue he collects to pay for the mortgage on his house, but I'd sit through any ad on his channel because he has genuinely good recipes and is very entertaining. It'd be a shame for him to stop making videos.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;42016898]but blocking ads will only affect the people whose videos you watch
either you watch "idiots who sit on their asses and play video games" or you're hurting the content creators you actually like[/QUOTE]
I meant if I accidentally click on one of their videos or something
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;42016946]Never heard of this. Because if it's even remotely true then they're doing a piss poor job as I haven't seen one single ad in years of using ABP.[/QUOTE]
I read an indepth piece about them a while ago, basically they have customers forums that are supposed to discuss which adds to whitelist but those get like 1 post a day or something.
So what qualifies as "acceptable add" is entirely up to them.
It's discussed in Germany a lot since our biggest newspaper just put a paywall in place.
Maybe you could translate [url]http://www.horizont.net/aktuell/digital/pages/protected/Debatte-um-Adblock-Plus-Wer-zahlt-fuer-die-Durchwink-Liste_115545.html[/url]
Anyway, short: They are shitheads that get 30%, don't use ABP use AB.
Or, you know, un tick the "show accepted ads" box.
I tried not using an ad blocker some time ago but when a page wouldn't render because "waiting for ad.doubleclick.net..." and auto-playing video ads and the minefield that is (usually iLivid) "Download button" ads on download pages I decided not to put up with it
There needs to be acceptable advertising standards put in place
[QUOTE=based snack;42017928]I meant if I accidentally click on one of their videos or something[/QUOTE]
so to deny money to LPers in the event that you "accidentally" click one of their videos (how would that even happen) you're going to deny ad revenue to everyone that uploads to youtube, including the people you like.
You do realize that a single adview is worth like, a fraction of a cent, right? All told, you're doing way more damage to people who you watch serially than anyone whose video you "accidentally" clicked once.
Just make an adblock extension that moves all the ads to the bottom of the page - i have click to play enabled so i don't care about flash based ads - the plugin could completely remove those or something :v:
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;42018232]so to deny money to LPers in the event that you "accidentally" click one of their videos (how would that even happen) you're going to deny ad revenue to everyone that uploads to youtube, including the people you like.
You do realize that a single adview is worth like, a fraction of a cent, right? All told, you're doing way more damage to people who you watch serially than anyone whose video you "accidentally" clicked once.[/QUOTE]
Shut the hell up nerd, I don't fucking care.
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[QUOTE=1STrandomman;42018232]so to deny money to LPers in the event that you "accidentally" click one of their videos (how would that even happen) you're going to deny ad revenue to everyone that uploads to youtube, including the people you like.
You do realize that a single adview is worth like, a fraction of a cent, right? All told, you're doing way more damage to people who you watch serially than anyone whose video you "accidentally" clicked once.[/QUOTE]
I just don't think playing games with comments is worth any money. I like it when it's done amateurish and slowly, they enjoy every single view, I enjoy someone who is devoted to their game instead of playing as many as fast as possible and that's it.
LPers for money can go fuck themselves.
[QUOTE=popbob;42013046]recording yourself playing a game and talking over it is not hard, anyone can do this. acting entitled to a paycheck for doing so is even worse.
if people want money for the content they produce, they should make good, original content that isn't the same as every other bottom of the barrel youtuber's content, and ask for donations from their viewers. not only would they end up making more money in the long run, many more people will appreciate their work for making something memorable and fresh rather than the same shit you can find anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
but game grumps is so funny you're dumb
Full disclosure : I work for an online advertising company.
While I don't believe most content creators do actually deserve any money for stuff put on, let's say, Youtube (or any other part of the web), I can understand how Adblockers can be a threat to many websites. I can't help but think that most of the content should be created as a hobbyist, your goal being to share things you made. If you really are good at it, then reaping benefits is perfectly fine by me.
Now on the advertising part, I do deal with marketing folks all day long.
The amount of stuff they want to know about you is just insane. We have to put a hold to these crazy requests.
Use ad blocking tools + anti tracking systems as much as you can, because it's getting out of hand.
I'm quite happy about this Adblock campaign, because if it draws enough attention, while it might make my work a bit shittier, it could yield interesting results.
I turn it off for places I trust and I enable YouTube video ads because of this very reason
The day I stop using adblock is the day ads stop being shit.
I stopped watching TV because of their MASSIVE amounts of mood killing ads
I couldn't even imagine watching something like Breaking Bad and you're fully getting into the mood of the scene then it fades to black and some cock basket yells at you to buy a used car or some shit
I will use adblock for even my favorite youtubers but I get around the feeling of guilt buy giving them money in a way that benefits both of us, they get more money from me buying something than a few ads and I get some cool merch or whatever
Like my monthly subscription to the RoosterTeeth site
red letter media is a great example of what every shitty youtuber should aspire to be:
they made great content and were able to ditch youtube and have their own site. their own site has an ad system that is difficult to bypass and has proper TV adverts that can be 30 seconds to a minute long
they get away with it though simply because their content is [I]so[/I] good. you can't get anything like them at any where near the same level of quality and so people are more than willing to use their site and put up with adverts
want me to stop blocking your ads? make better content. make it so good you can get off youtube
[QUOTE=Titusmcgee;42010643]Maybe if ill disable my adblock if you actually put out good content. You're making a living online and you're bitching when the gravy trains coming to a halt, perhaps you shouldn't have put all your eggs into the youtube basket.[/QUOTE]
They're animators, and they get paid for doing what they do. Them getting bad pay isn't much different from any animation company giving them bad payment.
I saw someone saying "Hey but what if YouTube isn't popular in 10 years, you'd need a new job". And that's very true, but the same goes for working anywhere else in the world. If you work in a shop for 4 years and the store has to close, you're unemployed and have to seek work elsewere.
As a content creator, I agree with Jaltoid. And frankly I feel like it's just a matter of time before YouTube will force people to disable adblock on the site.
It is my deep belief that the [i]entire advertisement industry[/i] should go die in hell.
Nothing it offers can't be achieved through other means, and it is just not worth the lifetime of torment that comes with it for the consumer.
[QUOTE=Nikita;42018864]It is my deep belief that the [i]entire advertisement industry[/i] should go die in hell.
Nothing it offers can't be achieved through other means, and it is just not worth the lifetime of torment that comes with it for the consumer.[/QUOTE]
ok
start paying money to watch videos
An hour long tv show is 45 minutes..ish the rest being ads. That adds up to a lot of wasted time after awhile. Cancelled cable, subbed to Netflix, stream shows not on there. Been doing this since the internet became mature and fast enough to do so with. I'm not watching ads again in front of videos, fuck off and find another way. I whitelist sites I frequent often so long as they don't have obtrusive/infected ads. Saying I should not use it on the world wide web is like saying I should have sex without a condom.
The partnership thing, if they just had banner ads on the site and not in the actual videos I'd unblock parts of youtube. Even before adblock I never clicked on an ad on purpose, always tricked with a fake download button, which just makes me mad who the fucks like "oh, thats not the file I wanted but this shitty chinese insant loan service sure sounds nifty!"
When you're pulling in hundreds of thousands of views per video, clearly there's an interest in your work. I don't see why it's unreasonable to want to be paid for content that takes time and effort to create and for which there is an obvious demand.
I think this whole "GET A REAL JOB YOU LAZY BUM" attitude is really childish. Anyone who can actually attract a large enough audience to make a living off of their videos has to put a fair amount of work into creating them.
That said, I don't really think you can blame someone for wanting to use adblock either. Ads are fucking obnoxious, and especially so on youtube where you have to sit through ads before you can actually get to the video you want to watch. It just irks me when people try to push the blame onto content creators because they're "lazy" or "unoriginal" or "they should get a real job like the rest of us" or whatever. I guarantee you the vast majority of the people who say "well I would turn it off if they just made better videos!!" would never actually consider turning off adblock no matter who they were watching. And that's fine, you don't have to feel guilty about not wanting to put up with ads.
would be alright if ad lengths scaled with the video length on youtube, I'd tolerate a minute long add for a 20 minute video.
If someone tries to make YT their profession, fluctuations like these are a part of the massive risk they take. I don't think you're really entitled to complain in that situation.
I'm sorry but if your ad interrupts my viewing, distracts with animation or flashy text, is used as a platform for malware, pops up, or whatever else...that is, shoving it down my throat, then fuck it.
I'll happily use donate links and subscriptions or gold account to services I believe are worth it. Reddit and CGP Grey go about this the right way: they offer paid alternatives to minimize advertisements. When I view content, I don't WANT TO BE BOMBARDED WITH YOUR SHIT. If I have to sit through a 15 or 30 second ad every time I want to watch a Youtube video, or deal with some flash ad on the side, or a little interrupting pop up, then your content is not worth me viewing. Sorry.
There are other ways to provide for income and support for content creators that involve consent and volunteerism. Just ad a fucking donate link and give a little pitch at the end of your video, that goes a lot farther for me than putting ads in your video.
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