• Ad Block POV, a message from Jaltoid
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[t]http://i.imgur.com/PZeU6mt.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/O4cHCEJ.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/rXqVc3e.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/F745Gv7.jpg[/t] This is why I use uBlock Origin
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;49661179]I was thinking about turning off adblock and then youtube loaded a 50 minute video documentary about north korea as some kind of ad for an orchestra. Fuck that[/QUOTE] I had one come up a few times a whole 10 minute redstone tutorial, probably picked the same video over five times one night My phone now modifies the youtube application to remove ads from it (and background playback, fuck youtube red as well)
I only just now realized that this is a bumped thread from 2013. Here's the description of the video: [QUOTE]This is why we have a problem with the adblock campaign, not adblock itself. We're not after the users of adblock, but the people who intend to promote adblock. We have nothing majorly wrong against ad block. Some users prefer not seeing ads. But as a collective, its extremely dangerous to FREE services. As an adblock user, telling the world can pressure websites to break adblock from working on their site. Or Force you to pay for services that are currently free. Please listen to our argument, and why this campaign is bad for adblock users and non adblock users. [/QUOTE]
Can we talk about how most stuff is consumed on mobile devices? They have no adblock.
Ads are poisoned at this point. Advertisers have gone to retarded extremes to shove shit into people's faces, perhaps in response to ad blocking (or perhaps because they are greedy, who knows). Like piracy, some people will block ads regardless, but if an advertiser had some standards and started doing ads in a manner that was clearly marked as advertising, impossible to deliver malware through (which IS possible if text based advertisements are all that's allowed), and isn't pointlessly annoying, perhaps everyone could find some common ground. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;49663281]Can we talk about how most stuff is consumed on mobile devices? They have no adblock.[/QUOTE] Some do. [url]http://www.businessinsider.com/how-apple-ad-block-in-safari-and-ios-9-will-affect-publishers-and-advertisers-2015-6?r=UK&IR=T[/url] [url]http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/31/10880394/samsung-internet-android-ad-content-blocker-adblock-fast[/url]
[QUOTE=Killuah;49663281]Can we talk about how most stuff is consumed on mobile devices? They have no adblock.[/QUOTE] You can get ublock for Firefox might be available for chrome on mobile.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;49663480]You can get ublock for Firefox might be available for chrome on mobile.[/QUOTE] Can confirm, using Ublock Origin on Firefox for Android. A bit wonky to setup, but works great otherwise. Also got hosts file adblock for double protection. Guess my stance on ad's.
Why is it people who cry that adblock is stealing the food out of "content creator's" mouths always ignore the fact that sponsorships exist? It's direct money to the "content creator", it has no risk of of harbouring malware (or very little risk), and it's often unobtrusive and short at the beginning or end of a thing. It's also far more likely to be relevant to the person consuming the content. Also, "content creator" is the most meaningless term in the world, it literally describes putting anything on the internet.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;49658979]I use adblock, but when you think about it it's actually pretty fucking pathetic that we refuse to watch a 30 second ad, and thus deny a content creator his/her pay. Someone's livelihood is obviously much more important than you having to sit through some 30 second ad, imo.[/QUOTE] It does sound bad when you put it this way. However if you do the maths the picture changes... Let's say you watch 6 youtube videos with 30 sec ads every day, that's 3 minutes of ads every day. Now multiply that for a year and you're spending 18.25 hours watching youtube ads every year. In reality the number is going to be a lot bigger though. Why would you waste hours of your life trying to support a person that probably doesn't even know you exist. Time is our most valuable resource, you shouldn't waste it on people who won't even appreciate it, not even 30 seconds.
Wow, so confusing to stumble into a thread and see myself as the OP, not having made a thread in years probably. I've been talking pretty mercifully about ads during the recent years. That's mostly because I've had ad blocking for years too, and only using someone else's pc I'm reminded how goddamn terrible they are. I remember that Facebook (out of all sites) had the most acceptable ads. They were in the sidebar, not flashy or misleading and often products from webstores I'm actually interested in. Probably the only ads in history I clicked on on purpose. Still, facebook doesn't really need or particularly deserve my ad views and if I need products from webstores I will go to those webstores.
Google Play Music subscriber so no YouTube ads. :v: Still use uBlock for every other site though.
Original video is no longer available, is there a point to replying? Well anyway, I'll use adblock until capitalism dies under it's own weight. We were never meant to live like this, parasiting and leeching off one another. Advertising is the most blatant example of that, parasites that need to offend my eyes and ears for a minuscule chance that i will pity them enough to buy, deserve to die or find a way to sustain themselves without parasitism. And yes, so do the content creators. Also, like others have said, if Adblock becomes widespread people will be forced to adapt and find a more enlightened way of living, or starve.
[QUOTE=saintsim;49665856]Original video is no longer available, is there a point to replying? Well anyway, I'll use adblock until capitalism dies under it's own weight. We were never meant to live like this, parasiting and leeching off one another. Advertising is the most blatant example of that, parasites that need to offend my eyes and ears for a minuscule chance that i will pity them enough to buy, deserve to die or find a way to sustain themselves without parasitism. And yes, so do the content creators. Also, like others have said, if Adblock becomes widespread people will be forced to adapt and find a more enlightened way of living, or starve.[/QUOTE] pretty intense dude
[QUOTE=saintsim;49665856]Original video is no longer available, is there a point to replying? Well anyway, I'll use adblock until capitalism dies under it's own weight. We were never meant to live like this, parasiting and leeching off one another. Advertising is the most blatant example of that, parasites that need to offend my eyes and ears for a minuscule chance that i will pity them enough to buy, deserve to die or find a way to sustain themselves without parasitism. And yes, so do the content creators. Also, like others have said, if Adblock becomes widespread people will be forced to adapt and find a more enlightened way of living, or starve.[/QUOTE] And here you are. Posting on a forum, kept alive by sales. On a computer you bought. With 76 games on your account. Talk about sticking it to the man.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;42010814]a lot of youtube video makers and online writers (mostly gaming journalists lol) have been going on tirades about adblock on twitter lately, basically saying that anyone who uses adblock is a horrible horrible person and will cause the death of their respective industries well i'm sorry that I don't like pop ups or 30 second advertisements that kill my interest in a video.[/QUOTE] They can get fucked. They should realize that this is the nature of the internet. The amount of malware that can be spread through ads that you don't even have to click on is ridiculous, and there's no screening for that shit on a lot of servers the ads are hosted on. And there never will be because the entire world is connected and each country is different. So Adblock stays. Why should I open myself up to bullshit and security concerns when I have a clear way to shut that door Find different ways to advertise. You're a 'content creator', right? So get sponsored with shit that's relevant to your content, and thus the interests of those who watch, and slap it at the start or end of your video with a mention and a link in the description. It's more effective than popups and 30 seconds of random unskippable unrelated shit anyway
I turn adblock off if it's a youtube channel I [I]really[/I] enjoy, if they create content I like then I might as well do my part since I get to watch it for free. Also, why all the unecessary hostility towards content creators? Sure, block ads if you want to, but there's no need to view it as something less than a full-time job.
[QUOTE=Sandvich9;49666944]Also, why all the unecessary hostility towards content creators?[/QUOTE] Because many of them tell people they should feel bad for blocking adverts? If I get told that, my immediate response is pretty much on the line of "get fucked with a Swedish pinewood tree"
[QUOTE=J!NX;42010838]to be fair its only 30 seconds but I'll only wait if its a good and long video not every god damn music video from VIVO.[/QUOTE] My bigger complaint is the complete lack of circulation on those ads. You have to watch the same ones over and over and over again. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;49666599]They can get fucked. They should realize that this is the nature of the internet. The amount of malware that can be spread through ads that you don't even have to click on is ridiculous, and there's no screening for that shit on a lot of servers the ads are hosted on. And there never will be because the entire world is connected and each country is different. So Adblock stays. Why should I open myself up to bullshit and security concerns when I have a clear way to shut that door Find different ways to advertise. You're a 'content creator', right? So get sponsored with shit that's relevant to your content, and thus the interests of those who watch, and slap it at the start or end of your video with a mention and a link in the description. It's more effective than popups and 30 seconds of random unskippable unrelated shit anyway[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=plagiarism]Maddox explains his lack of advertising on his site[/url] [quote] You may not have noticed a few things that are unique about this web site. First of all, there are no banners. Nowhere on this site will you find any banners or pop-ups. This site gets more traffic than most commercial sites, and I don't make a cent off of it. I don't even have a lame PayPal donation link begging for money. Money has never been the goal of this site, and that's why even as I get upwards of 60,000-100,000 hits per day, I still refuse to sell advertisements. I could be rich off of advertisements, and I could even quit my job, but I refuse to sell ads. Why? Because selling advertisements gives people an incentive to lie and because it takes power away from the author. The reason this site doesn't have advertisements on it is because I want to say whatever I want to without having to worry about offending advertisers. People who sell ads essentially have to censor themselves to do it; if they ever want to talk about something controversial, they have to look over their shoulders to make sure they're not going to piss anyone off. By not selling ads, nobody can ever force me to change my content by threatening to cut off my advertising revenue because there is none. This site is 100% free, and will always be free. I refuse to hold this site hostage to donations. My hosting fees have gone up (although not much thanks to my kickass ISP), but I continue to pay it out of my pocket because I enjoy posting on this site when I have some free time (usually a few hours per week). If it ever becomes too expensive for me to maintain, I'll simply take it down.[/quote] The site has been up since 1998.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;49667213]My bigger complaint is the complete lack of circulation on those ads. You have to watch the same ones over and over and over again.[/QUOTE] This is my main beef with ads as well. It's even worse on Hulu where you see the same one, back to back, three times in a row.
The video is private. Anybody got a link?
[QUOTE=wauterboi;49667213]My bigger complaint is the complete lack of circulation on those ads. You have to watch the same ones over and over and over again. [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=plagiarism]Maddox explains his lack of advertising on his site[/url] The site has been up since 1998.[/QUOTE] He does monetise his youtube videos though. Not excessively, just banner ads, but he's not taking a stance against advertising to hold on to free speech, he's just not interested in dealing with any conflicts of interest.
[QUOTE=DFC;49666027]pretty intense dude[/QUOTE] Well I'm a [QUOTE=DFC;49666027]pretty intense dude[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;49666599]They can get fucked. They should realize that this is the nature of the internet. The amount of malware that can be spread through ads that you don't even have to click on is ridiculous, and there's no screening for that shit on a lot of servers the ads are hosted on. And there never will be because the entire world is connected and each country is different. So Adblock stays. Why should I open myself up to bullshit and security concerns when I have a clear way to shut that door Find different ways to advertise. You're a 'content creator', right? So get sponsored with shit that's relevant to your content, and thus the interests of those who watch, and slap it at the start or end of your video with a mention and a link in the description. It's more effective than popups and 30 seconds of random unskippable unrelated shit anyway[/QUOTE] Yeah, sponsors, that's a much better idea. For people already extremely successful and who don't mind having to think about reflect poorly on their sponsors or doing disingenuous plugs for products, anyway.
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