I believe we "reincarnate" , since the body is a vessel for some hidden object in the brain. You may think "Simple , We're just electrical signals" but what is emitting those signals , where from , and how does it know where to go?
It's just A vessel , and I do believe there is something else controlling us than a brain.
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[QUOTE=Douchebags;15778875]Or just think of it in a simple way. You ever sleep one night and you don't have any dreams what so ever? That's what it could be like, just sleeping without dreams....OR we could be stuck in a dream world within our minds and when our brain dies the electricity shoots off and we are stuck in that dream world which might seem real to us and thus live there for all of time.
But then again time is just a persistint illiusion so what do i know.[/QUOTE]
when I have no dreams it feels like I didn't go to sleep , I just randomly skipped time.
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[QUOTE=Hostel;15783193]/she is made of biological matter that has energy to sustain it's activities. Ask yourself how bits and pieces of silicon and metal are put together so I can play Crysis, hard isn't it? Matter by itself is not much good when it comes to creating thought, but it is backed by kinetic energy to fuel it.[/QUOTE]
Since when did Crysis live a life , decide for itself , learn , and do everything we do?
It doesn't matter anyway, because we invented and found this technology. Crysis is completely incomparable to the human brain / soul
HERES A FUCKED UP THEORY :
How bout this : Your body is currently in playback mode.
It could be your fith , your fiftieth , or even your Fifty Million Millionth playback.
When you die , your soul replays all your events , making you think you are making your decisions , yet you only decide and hear what your previous self did. We could be dead twenty million years ago , but we don't know it , since we've been playing back our lives for the past god knows how many years , yet we don't know it.
i think it will just be nothing no white light no god , no time nothing
I think one of you should kill themselves and report back.
I suppose it [b]IS[/b] like being unconscious forever.
As your brain is dead you can't think or dream anything.
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Sounds like birth.[/QUOTE]
But that would be reversed.
I hate the concept, you will die, I will die, and within a few decades any legacy, impact or memory, strong or faint will be wiped from existence, meaning that every thing you've ever worked for, everything you've ever thought or said or loved will be gone. Leaving nothing.
And what will happen to us? The people who attempted to leave that legacy? It saddens me that I have come to the conclusion that there will be nothing, like someone mentioned earlier, "Before We were born" There ill be nothing. Not to sound like a manic deprresive but, Me, You, and indeed the entire populations lives are meaningless.
[b]My scientific explanation
Since the world is created, inside your consciousness, by your perception of it, everything will cease to exist, since you won't be able to percieve anything. However, since the past is created by your memories, and your memories will be destroyed, nothing will have ever existed (from your point of view) [/b]
Caps for emphasis as I have spent the past weeks thinking about death-related subjects and I'd love to hear someone's opinion on this.
I find it inconcievable, but it's all I can back up with evidence.
Please do not write extensively about afterlife if you're just fantasizing.
[quote=dima210]Do you guys remember before you were born? That's exactly how death feels. [/quote]
Exactly!
[QUOTE=Spaztastik;15068989]i believe in reincarnation but not the same way as what most believers of reincarnation believe. Energy can never be destroyed, it can just change shape, form or whatever. so i guess that could apply to all other things sooo we could be reincarnated into anything. air, water, people again[/QUOTE]
People =/= energy.
People's thoughts and feelings and lives are not recyclable, reincarnation is what most people like to believe in but it's one of the more stupider theories of death.
[QUOTE=bigdfinch;15781740]I don't believe it is our actual brain that does the thinking. It is simply a link between our physical being and our soul. Logically, matter cannot think, and our brain is simply matter, (or protons and neutrons charged or whatever object you wish to call it). Therefore our brain cannot think without the assistance of a soul.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Of course, most people believe there is something like a ‘soul’ or a ‘spirit’ living inside of you. But when it comes down to facts, there just isn’t any evidence for that. Every thought you have, every move you make, every emotion you feel - it’s just brain, brain, brain.
There are actually experiments that prove it. When you disturb your brain in a certain way, your feeling of ‘self’ can get detached from your brain. Suddenly, it will feel as if ‘you’ are not inside your body anymore. You experience what is known as an ‘out of body experience’, or a ‘near death experience’.
But you don’t have to be nearly dead to feel it. The sensation can easily be created in a laboratory, by placing a helmet with rotating magnetic fields on your head. The magnetic field acts like a ‘jam signal’ on your brain. Suddenly, you'll feel like you're floating outside your body. But you aren’t. It’s just your brain going confused.
And you don't really need a helmet to do the trick. Visiting a place where the movement of the Earth's crust generates magnetic fields can give you the experience. Being in a situation where your brain doesn't get enough oxygen sometimes does it. Certain brain operations bring out the experience. Meditation and intensive prayer can generate it.
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Wrong, boi.
[QUOTE=Traxxasred;15789164]Wrong, boi.[/QUOTE]
Quoted for truth.
I wish this was wikipedia so I could spam you "LOL SOUL" guys with [citation needed] tags.
Bit off topic,
But i can only think far back as when i was about 5 years old and have no memory of them 5 years of me being alive.
It's a bit pointless living if it is just black, and i love life to be fair, i can't image dieing / not breathing its weird.
Also, would death be different for those who get cremated and those who get burried?
You're dead, any and all reality ceases to exist for the rest of eternity. Life is a short burst of warmth and activity followed by endless dark and cold.
[QUOTE=Ilya;15775656]Death is like the time before you were born.[/QUOTE]
The 1980s?????
If it's like when you go to sleep without having a dream, you just remember going to sleep then waking up then there is really nothing to fear.
I love watching tv in bed then falling asleep, it just sucks to know that one day you will no longer be able to do it.
[QUOTE=VladH;15789013][b]Since the world is created, inside your consciousness, by your perception of it, everything will cease to exist, since you won't be able to percieve anything. However, since the past is created by your memories, and your memories will be destroyed, nothing will have ever existed (from your point of view) [/b][/QUOTE]
This is the exact same thing I came up with. It's a pretty damn bleak idea. There is a glimmer of hope, though. I expounded on it further and decided that your "afterlife" is the thought that everything you did and made will live on as long as someone is alive, thinking of it. Even with this bleak, horrible idea you can die happy if you did something truly great.
However, I hope it is something where we all continue to grow and learn. I don't care if that is Reincarnation, Exaltation, or even being a ghost. All I want to do is never stop existing.
What seems less logical is sometimes true.
[QUOTE=Hemroid_Man;15785962]I believe we "reincarnate" , since the body is a vessel for some hidden object in the brain. You may think "Simple , We're just electrical signals" but what is emitting those signals , where from , and how does it know where to go?
It's just A vessel , and I do believe there is something else controlling us than a brain.
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when I have no dreams it feels like I didn't go to sleep , I just randomly skipped time.
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Since when did Crysis live a life , decide for itself , learn , and do everything we do?
It doesn't matter anyway, because we invented and found this technology. Crysis is completely incomparable to the human brain / soul
HERES A FUCKED UP THEORY :
How bout this : Your body is currently in playback mode.
It could be your fith , your fiftieth , or even your Fifty Million Millionth playback.
When you die , your soul replays all your events , making you think you are making your decisions , yet you only decide and hear what your previous self did. We could be dead twenty million years ago , but we don't know it , since we've been playing back our lives for the past god knows how many years , yet we don't know it.[/QUOTE]
Ah, you miss the point. I was not correlating how computers and Crysis is like our lives (if only, lol) but rather our perception of how things are made. To some people, how a computer is made is clear and concise, while some feel like it's almost magic, it amazes them how it even works. It's the understanding of the universe that applies differently to people. Some find the concept of non-existence to be inconceivable, while some can grasp it and fully understand it.
I'd have to agree Crysis does compare to a human brain (why you told me, I do not know) Computers, AI, it's still all very mechanical and mathematical, it relies all on input and output and conditional statements. The human brain on the other hand, is biological. It's wonderful because we have the ability to reason with emotions alongside with normal logic, we can come up with new statements and thoughts with the need of someone else's input.
[QUOTE=flyguy88;15821588]What seems less logical is sometimes true.[/QUOTE]
Very true. Our own perseverance leads us to believe that something is illogical, it affects how we understand reality. What may seem illogical (our perseverance) is actually very logical (reality).
This is all anyone needs to know,
Death is over rated. You where already in that state 200 years ago, 1000 years ago, 13.7 billion years ago. Its kind of like going to sleep without dreaming, every night you become unconscious for a certain amount of time.
Once you're in that state and aren't dreaming you have no opinion, waking up, not waking up, doesn't matter - just like in death, you're gone...
until you wake up.
Everyone who thinks there is a heaven needs to be quietly set aside, they need to read a book and get an education. That kind of blatant stupidity has to be ignored and I respect the intellect of no man who was born after Darwin and still believes in ghosts and spirits. Its primitive and unthinkably stupid, its from the infancy of our species and a bane on progress.
It occurs to me that if the theory of the universe existing in an endless cycle of big bang, expand, contract, big bang, etc is true, then statistically speaking at some point in the infinite expanse of time, events will play out exactly the same and lead to the exact same atoms forming your exact same body once again. If the universe really does run in an endless cycle, it's conceivable that we've all lived an infinite number of times before and shall live an infinite number of times again.
No, I'm not high.
[QUOTE=Sharpezor;15822071]This is all anyone needs to know,
Death is over rated. You where already in that state 200 years ago, 1000 years ago, 13.7 billion years ago. Its kind of like going to sleep without dreaming, every night you become unconscious for a certain amount of time.
Once you're in that state and aren't dreaming you have no opinion, waking up, not waking up, doesn't matter - just like in death, you're gone...
until you wake up.[/QUOTE]
That is a good way to put it. The very definition of unconscious is the concept of death nearly. At some point in time, I would actually like that to happen. I would like to see the universe after I die, that is fantasizing of coarse, but once I was done and grew bored, I would like to cease to exist and lose my consciousness.
I think you just reincarnate into some different animal. I know that's been said on this thread (Lol, rhyme) loads of times, but hey, it's my opinion isn't it? And that's what the creator of the thread was looking for.
You experience intense physical pain
You die
There is no brain activity
You can't hear/see/feel/smell/taste
And then you are dumped in the ground to feed earthworms
There is no such thing as the afterlife, and I'd wager that most of the religious people on this forum only believe in God out of a fear of non-existence after death.
I some how fear it,so I decided to get my self frozen (at 40-50 years age), until humanity discovers a (as dumb as it sounds)"life extendor" thing.
Alsow I will store quite a sum,because I really question this free for all future,and all that optimistic crap.
But I'm only 16 so that decision may vary...:)
If you end up extending your life span through artificial methods, you'll probably be in more agony than if you were dead.
Still, cool prospect though.
Here's an interesting thought (may have already been mentioned):
Would you really rather live forever than die? Sure, for the first trillion years or so it might be fun. Maybe even next trillion, and the trillion after that. But eventually, wouldn't you want to cease to exist? You'd have done everything worth doing, but you'd still have eternity to go. Every day you could say for certain that you'd wake up the next day. And what would make you get out of bed in the morning, so to speak?
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Or was that what Tentacle's post was getting at?
I hope death is not like being a teenager.
Death is an illusion, it's merely a transitional step from randomly organized matter to non-organized matter in the perpetual motion of fundamental forces that is the universe. Perpetual motion, by definition, is the time period where endless of events can occur, and therefore allowing the reforming of your current matter, into a new form of consciousness in the future.
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