If you're allowed too get some OC spray. Saber red MK 3 and MK4 are pretty good. Get oil, gel, or foam based OC sprays, don't get water based. You could even get bear spray, that shit is pretty hardcore.
If she sends her dog on you call the police and animal control. She is using it as a weapon and if you work for the post office then you're a federal employee and what she is doing is a felony.
If the dog ever attacks you could try wrapping your arm in your coat, then purposely offering it to the dog to latch on to, then I'd just kicking it or sit on it or something
[editline]17th July 2014[/editline]
Or your mail bag, anything to distract him for the first couple of seconds so you can get a upper hand
[QUOTE=beanhead;45420543]If the dog ever attacks you could try wrapping your arm in your coat, then purposely offering it to the dog to latch on to, then I'd just kicking it or sit on it or something[/QUOTE]
Dog is just going to puncture the jacket and fuck him up.
[QUOTE=MR-X;45420596]Dog is just going to puncture the jacket and fuck him up.[/QUOTE]
depends on the thickness of the jacket i supposed, obviously you wouldnt do it with a rain coat
[QUOTE=beanhead;45420642]depends on the thickness of the jacket i supposed, obviously you wouldnt do it with a rain coat[/QUOTE]
I doubt it honestly, even with a Bite suit people still get puncture wounds and pretty gnarly bruises.
This guy was wearing a bite suit and still ended up with this [img]http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/userfiles/arm.jpg[/img]
It isn't my intent to start an argument, but I don't want to see OP hurt because of poor advice. A lot of people underestimate the power of a dogs bite. Rotts can bite with like 300+ pounds of pressure, they're pretty dangerous breed when it comes to be trained or encouraged to attack other people.
What about pepperspray?
try to pet it
say you want a doggy truce
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if it says no bring 2 pitbulls back with you next time
Rotts are serious business. In my neighborhood dogs are running around freely and sometimes they're aggressive and you've gotta scare them off (once I stopped my bike because If I didn't I'd hit a dog, and he decided that a nice thank you would be to bite the fuck out of my feet, luckily it was a fairly small dog, I had old but sturdy leather shoes so the damage wasn't a big deal and they managed to protect my feet, and the owner was around to get him under control) but if I'd see a Rottweiler, holy shit I wouldn't know what to do.
Given her condition this is pretty serious, OP. If you think she deliberately let her dog out on you, you should contact authorities.
[video=youtube;jsgvUohhpqc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsgvUohhpqc[/video]
Could try getting a very strong pepper spray like this.
I'm absolutely getting sick of this woman, I live in the same house with the OP, and she's been like this for goddamn years by the stories I heard. Thank God I never met her though because I'd most likely lose my patience and punch her in the fucking jaw.
Here's the most recent story I've heard: Some time ago my grandpa was sitting in the yard of their apartment, and on the other side of the hedge this woman was there with some guy, at first our grandpa couldn't understand what they were talking about if I see this right, and in all of a sudden this guy yelled ''you cheap whore'', loud enough for the whole apartment block to hear.
Then our grandpa went back inside, laughing hard.
But to the problem, call the police and inform you she may threaten you with this fucking dog.
I most likely told you this in person by the time you read this, but here it is in case I was too lazy, or forgot it.
[quote]However I'm not gonna give up on delivering mail there just because she happens to live there.[/quote]
Where do you live? In basically every country you have a right to refuse work you believe is dangerous. Postal services usually take the concerns of their mail carriers seriously and will just cut off mail delivery to potentially dangerous homes.
[QUOTE=MR-X;45420835]I doubt it honestly, even with a Bite suit people still get puncture wounds and pretty gnarly bruises.
This guy was wearing a bite suit and still ended up with this [img]http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/userfiles/arm.jpg[/img]
It isn't my intent to start an argument, but I don't want to see OP hurt because of poor advice. A lot of people underestimate the power of a dogs bite. Rotts can bite with like 300+ pounds of pressure, they're pretty dangerous breed when it comes to be trained or encouraged to attack other people.[/QUOTE]
The point isn't to NOT get injured, it's to reduce the extent to which you are injured; if you're fighting a dog there are many different ways depending on what you have.
Fairly good guide.
[url]http://exigentcircumstance.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/combative-anatomy-how-to-fight-a-dog/[/url]
I got attacked recently by my neighbors pitbull, it repeatedly attacks my dog when I take her for walks, her owners let her free in the neighborhood and I've called the police literally a dozen times for it and they keep doing. The other night I came around the corner with my girlfriend and my dog, and the pitbull bolted across the street from their porch and I yelled at my girlfriend to take my dog away, handed her the leash and ran out to meet the pitbull in the street to put distance between my dog and it. I had boots on and kicked it square in the head as it got to me, it yelped stumbled and collapsed and turned and ran back to its property. Luckily It didn't continue attacking. My girlfriend carries pepper spray but in that flash of an attack my girlfriend didn't even know what was happening before I had already kicked the dog, so if you're not prepared stuff like pepper spray wont help. When we're out now with my dog I make sure my girlfriend is wearing closed toe shoes and she's stopped carrying a bag and started wearing her backpack instead so she has free hands in case something happens again.
The people who own it are utter trash who got the dog after a no knock drug related search warrant.
I usually carry a expandable baton with me for this very reason, many people let their dogs run loose, and specially larger breed ones. Heard of so many dog attacks, I ain't taking the risk, even if the cops will bust me for carrying it. I'd figured a few nice hits to the ribs and/or head area should at least make it stop, if it comes down to me having to use it.
CS/Pepperspray does not work on dogs, not sure if there are any specific types made to repel dog attacks, though.
If the dog attacks you, grab it by the ears and pull - extremely painful for the dog, pretty much immobilizes it, and it'll get off of you pretty much instantly. If it attacks you again, and you want to make sure it doesn't again, grab it by the ears and knee it under the chin. It won't be able to jerk away from you because you have it by the ears and it remembers the feeling, so it'll stay still even if it's still growling and barking. Hopefully you don't have to kill any dogs, but if you do this is the best way to do it in self-defense.
If you have time OP, take your shirt off, and wrap it around your arm. Hold this arm out for the dog to bite, the wrapped shirt will protect it, and you can punch it's snout while it's trying to tear through the shirt. Protect your neck at all costs, it is THE priority. Dogs know to go for the jugular vein, and they will.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;45423977]don't listen to anyone that tells you to attack the dog because it'll only agitate it and could coerce it into killing you; rottweilers are fucking TOUGH and won't give a shit about kicks, i can't even see any way you could easily kick it in the chest
your best option is probably a form of pepper spray that can incapacitate bears or some shit or being defensive and wearing armor or just stop delivering mail until the issue has been resolved[/QUOTE]
This.
And try to follow this tactic
[video=youtube;iLPacEjozKA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLPacEjozKA[/video]
I didn't write this up and I'm not sure how credible it is, found it on reddit along time ago on the EMSK sub hopefully it helps.
[quote]TL:DR? DESTROYING THE NECK with punches, kicks or a bloody big stick is the quickest way to end its life as the bones in the skull and ribs are almost unbreakable by unaided human hand.
Assuming its a surprise fight and you have only seconds to act...
Having done this I can tell you a couple of things:
1) you will need to kill or severely injure the dog
2) it won't be pretty
3) grab a stick thicker than your thumb if you can
First up. Whatever happens you will need protection. Take your top off and wrap it round your hand and forearm. The easiest way is to hold the sleeve and wrap. Try to go all the way from the hand to the elbow. If all you have is a tshirt then... man up and accept the fact that this is going to hurt and you will probably loose a little blood.
Here's how things go down:
The dog will run at you
Take a low stance and get ready for the tackle
When lassy cujo is close it will jump at you... for a dog the size you ask about when it jumps RAM YOUR FUCKING ARM INTO ITS MOUTH! and get ready
You will probably be heading to the floor. if you have the chance, twist as you fall and land ON TOP of the dog. If it ends up on top of you then get ready for a fight. YOU MUST GET ON TOP AND PIN THE DOG DOWN!
If you end up under the dog and can't roll it DO NOT TRY TO GRAPPLE IT! You'll lose fingers this way. Just throw punches aimed at the neck. NOT THE FACE OR BODY! aim at the neck! A dogs skull and rib cage are tough. Instinct will make it bite your arm too.
If you have that big ol' stick I mentioned then you have 2 options
1) if it's possible put it into its mouth width wise and press down into it's fucking head. (dogs have no teeth at the back of the jaw and biting down hard on a stick hurts their soft gums)
2) (more likely) you won't be able to find an opening to get that stick in. so....
You're hopefully on top. It's pinned and you're ready.
If you can, ram your hand into its mouth (remembering it should be wrapped and covered) and start punching that fucker in the neck... HARD. Try to punch the ground behind its neck. That is how hard you wanna punch.
Don't stop untill that dog stops moving.
Your aim is to crush its wind pipe. without air it will be dead in 200 seconds or less. Aim to injure the dog and you'll be there FAR, FAR longer.
OR
Failing that...
If you have a minute or two...
Gat a bloody big stick and bludgeon that cunt to death! (aim at the neck again though. HEAD AND BODY ARE FUCKING ARMOURED!)
Your ultimate aim is to stop it breathing and the easyest way is to stop air going from the mouth to the lungs. Colapse the middleman... so to speak ;)
EDIT
HOLY SH!T I woke up to some beautiful British sun... and a crying in-box! You folks sent me SEVERAL HUNDRED replies with questions so to save time I will write the answers here. Please forgive the impersonality.
Q: "couldn't you just yank it's front legs apart?" (killing it?)
A: HA... HAHA... HAHAHA...no! doing this will only bring its face closer to yours. Plus when you're trying to put your soft unprotected hands under its chin to grab its legs do you think it's going to sit there and wait?
Q: "can't you just kick it in the chest breaking its ribs or stopping its heart?"
A: yeah, sure. Not a problem... at all... Erm... but, what happens if you miss. Isn't your shin going to be at nomming height? It's going to be a "shit-or-bust" shout because it's kinda hard to manoiuver with a 50Lb dog attached to your shin.
Q: "do you ram your fist in its mouth head on or sideways?"
A: sideways. Head on puts your squishy hand in its mouth and just gives it a chew toy. Plus, how many dogs have mouths wider than your fist. (fun side fact. This DOES work[1] if attacked by crocodiles. you dislodge their palatal valves and drown them!.. How the hell do i know this crap???)
Q: "how do you know this? Have you gone on a killing spree against dogs?"
A: LOOOONG story hella shorter> Had to save a kid one day from a psycho stray. Also... a spree killer[2] ? By definition... no. How many have I dispatched? Even one can be too many.
Q: "can't you choke it out?"
A: I'll say no here. Why? well I don't think cujo will sit there while you grapple your way behind it and even if you could its neck muscles are designed to hold its head up all day. They will probably be strong en ough to hold offa choke hold. Oh,,, plus its blood vessels MIGHT not be spaced right to be depressed and...and...and. There are too many variables to try this guys so I'll go for a no here.
Q: "can you use a pocket knife?"
A: This is a guess as I have never tried this (And hope never have to) but go for the atlanto-occipital joint[3] with the blade perpendicular to the spine. Keep jabbing and you'll hit the spinal column eventually.
Q: "can't I poke out its eyes with my thumb?"
A: I doubt cujo will sit there while you manoeuvre your unprotected thumb to its eye without thinking "woohoo... chew toy!" Same goes for a stick
Q: what about the nuts?"
A: Never done this but at a guess... If cujo has 'em and you can get to 'em then punt those fuckers right into tuesday! I'd guess that it might stop to think twice if its love orbs have just been kicked into a squishy paste.
and punch awayQ: "You seem so cool/sexy can I give you gold/my naked body?"
A: Aye, sure. Why not............Ok.......I made this one up :([/quote]
[QUOTE=Ajacks;45423142]I got attacked recently by my neighbors pitbull, it repeatedly attacks my dog when I take her for walks, her owners let her free in the neighborhood and I've called the police literally a dozen times for it and they keep doing. The other night I came around the corner with my girlfriend and my dog, and the pitbull bolted across the street from their porch and I yelled at my girlfriend to take my dog away, handed her the leash and ran out to meet the pitbull in the street to put distance between my dog and it. I had boots on and kicked it square in the head as it got to me, it yelped stumbled and collapsed and turned and ran back to its property. Luckily It didn't continue attacking. My girlfriend carries pepper spray but in that flash of an attack my girlfriend didn't even know what was happening before I had already kicked the dog, so if you're not prepared stuff like pepper spray wont help. When we're out now with my dog I make sure my girlfriend is wearing closed toe shoes and she's stopped carrying a bag and started wearing her backpack instead so she has free hands in case something happens again.
The people who own it are utter trash who got the dog after a no knock drug related search warrant.[/QUOTE]
OP should invest in a good pair of steel toed boots.
Get some mace. It'll help withe crazy lady and her dog.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;45417151]The real problem is that she really [I]is[/I] dangerous. Her son and husband committed suicide, probably because of her, and she spiraled into psychopathy ever since.
Another problem is that the dog IS vicious. It started growling really hard at an old man in a scootmobile. It's like she deliberately makes her extremely vicious.[/QUOTE]
Stab the fucking mut
I'm talking about the girl
Get one of those cheap squeaky dog toys that dogs go batshit insane over
When the mutt approaches you, take it out, squeak it and throw it towards its owner
[url]http://www.cesarsway.com/dogbehavior/biting/When-Dogs-Attack[/url]
I think your safest bet would be not to deliver her mail until the police has sorted this mess out though.
like this
[video=youtube;ikbZdZZTc0s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikbZdZZTc0s[/video]
most important, try and avoid the dog at all costs. if the dogs don't know your presence you're safe (duh)
Also wear steel toe shoes, if you try and kick the dog its gonna bite your foot and with steel toes you're perfectly safe. and ofc bring a bat.
If the dog actually bites your foot then just hit it with the bat, its perfectly justified as it attacked you first
Did the mail round today and no sight of her or the dog. It was hot as hell though, but it was managable. This brings me good hope that I won't see her tomorrow too.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;45427711]Did the mail round today and no sight of her or the dog. It was hot as hell though, but it was managable. This brings me good hope that I won't see her tomorrow too.[/QUOTE]
Don't get your hopes up. Nature will crush those hopes in one way or another.
Perfect armor for you
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Why don't you carry a knife? If I were you, I'd carry a knife anyways, given your job. I'd recommend something with a stabbing blade - for example, I have a knife with a 4" Tanto blade that I carry when I go to bad places. 4" should be more than enough to put through the dog's neck into the esophagus or through the ribs.
[editline]18th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45417189]I probably wouldnt bring any sort of weapon with you. Seems like it would just muddy the waters legally if you do end up killing the thing, might start to sound more like you planned to kill it[/QUOTE]
I disagree with that. You should obviously have some sort of protection while you do your job.
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