[QUOTE=Qwerty?;25104823]didn't she confuse the pure heroin (which is also white) for cocaine? It's been a while since i've seen that film
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Yah Yah she did confuse them, but I thought like that was why she OD'ed 'cause you can't snort a nonlethal amount of heroin or some shit. That's just what I thought.
I guess it isn't true.
[QUOTE=White Rabbit;25105234]Yah Yah she did confuse them, but I thought like that was why she OD'ed 'cause you can't snort a nonlethal amount of heroin or some shit. That's just what I thought.
I guess it isn't true.[/QUOTE]
You what? Heroin is probably one of the easiest things to OD on, especially if you don't normally use it.
This is one of those drugs I really want to try but would never try.
[QUOTE=Callius;25105393]You what? Heroin is probably one of the easiest things to OD on, especially if you don't normally use it.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it isn't that easy to OD on it and that you're more likely to OD on if you're an addict. I believe the issue is that people build up a tolerance but grow an addiction to the intense feeling, so they have to use more to get that same feeling, which winds up in an overdose. It is very possible to overdose if you don't know what you're doing and guess how much to use, but I believe that it wouldn't be easy to OD on if you knew what you were doing. Jimson's weed is something that is easy to OD on because there is no way of telling how much of the chemical is in what you're taking. I'm pretty sure anyone buying H knows how much there is.
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I may have been a bit wrong so here is a quote from Wiki about overdosing.
[QUOTE]A heroin overdose is usually treated with an opioid antagonist, such as naloxone (Narcan), or naltrexone, which has high affinity for opioid receptors but does not activate them. This reverses the effects of heroin and other opioid agonists and causes an immediate return of consciousness but may precipitate withdrawal symptoms. The half-life of naloxone is much shorter than that of most opioid agonists, so that antagonist typically has to be administered multiple times until the opioid has been metabolized by the body.
Depending on drug interactions and numerous other factors, death from overdose can take anywhere from several minutes to several hours due to anoxia because the breathing reflex is suppressed by µ-opioids. An overdose is immediately reversible with an opioid antagonist injection. Heroin overdoses can occur due to an unexpected increase in the dose or purity or due to diminished opioid tolerance. However, many fatalities reported as overdoses are probably caused by interactions with other depressant drugs like alcohol or benzodiazepines.[51] It should also be noted that since heroin can cause nausea and vomiting, a significant number of deaths attributed to heroin overdose are caused by aspiration of vomit by an unconscious victim. Some sources quote the median lethal dose (for an average 75 kg opiate-naive individual) as being between 75 and 375 mg.[52] Street heroin is of widely varying and unpredictable purity. This means that the user may prepare what they consider to be a moderate dose while actually taking far more than intended. Also, tolerance typically decreases after a period of abstinence. If this occurs and the user takes a dose comparable to their previous use, the user may experience drug effects that are much greater than expected, potentially resulting in a dangerous overdose.
It has been speculated that an unknown portion of heroin related deaths are the result of an overdose or allergic reaction to quinine, which may sometimes be used as a cutting agent.[53]
A final factor contributing to overdoses is place conditioning. Heroin use is a highly ritualized behavior. While the mechanism has yet to be clearly elucidated, longtime heroin users display increased tolerance to the drug in locations where they have repeatedly administered heroin. When the user injects in a different location, this environment-conditioned tolerance does not occur, resulting in a greater drug effect. The user's typical dose of the drug, in the face of decreased tolerance, becomes far too high and can be toxic, leading to overdose.[54]
A small percentage of heroin smokers and occasionally IV users may develop symptoms of toxic leukoencephalopathy. The cause has yet to be identified, but one speculation is that the disorder is caused by an uncommon adulterant that is only active when heated.[55][56][57] Symptoms include slurred speech and difficulty walking.[/QUOTE]
It's really weird that you can OD just from injecting in a different place than usual.
I'd say first usage can be easy in the respect that it's completely different dosage to other drugs. Also the other point you mentioned with Jimson's weed in that heroin can be cut with things like fenethyal (compeltely wrong spelling, I'm working from memory) which if I remember correctly has some of the same affects but can kill when you take a line of heroin you're used to but find the majority of it is this.
That and the fact that usage is highly conditional, if you're taking it in a way or place that is completely different to your normal hitting then you risk lossing all your tolerance and so taking a dose which will affect you a lot more than it should do.
It's quite hard to OD on heroin alone. Most overdoses are a result of combinations such as benzos + heroin, alcohol + heroin etc.
I'd try it once, but that is all. I am not the downer guy.
I wana try coke once in my life. that all.
Im not the guy that will do heroin,
I am too energetic.
[QUOTE=Rizla;25107513]I wana try coke once in my life. that all.
Im not the guy that will do heroin,
I am too energetic.[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;25107572]what[/QUOTE]
nvm . Im too baked right now. What I wrote made no sense
Just took 100mg Ultram. Some said it has similar effects to heroin, I'll keep updating how it goes if anyone cares.
[QUOTE=Rizla;25107513]I wana try coke once in my life. that all.
Im not the guy that will do heroin,
I am too energetic.[/QUOTE]
Coke is fun, as is H.
I'm more of a downer person although I love the effects of stims etcs
I need to kick it though, even only bi weekly my tolerance is rising too much
I like downers best. I wish I could get some H around here, a cheap powerful opiate is what Ive always wanted, I can get morphine 60mg for $5 but that doesnt really cut it for me. On the other hand oxycontins... man I have dreams about finding those fuckers theyre so good. I like uppers, the main two Ive had experience with are adderall and mephedrone, smoked crack one time, but I still like downers like opiates and weed so much better. To bring it down to snorting, mephedrone has a good rush and shit like that, but oxycodone grabs ahold of me big time. Its been a long time since Ive had some oxycontins to snort, but just the thought of it still sends shivers down my spine. That rush combined with weed is just... holy fuck.
[QUOTE=rnate;25098365]That's not the only way to do it.[/QUOTE]
yeah i wasnt thinking straight when i posted that id probably try it like once
[QUOTE=steven688;25107898]Just took 100mg Ultram. Some said it has similar effects to heroin, I'll keep updating how it goes if anyone cares.[/QUOTE]
Keep updating please . I do care
[QUOTE=jonashappy;25111095]I like downers best. I wish I could get some H around here, a cheap powerful opiate is what Ive always wanted, I can get morphine 60mg for $5 but that doesnt really cut it for me. On the other hand oxycontins... man I have dreams about finding those fuckers theyre so good. I like uppers, the main two Ive had experience with are adderall and mephedrone, smoked crack one time, but I still like downers like opiates and weed so much better. To bring it down to snorting, mephedrone has a good rush and shit like that, but oxycodone grabs ahold of me big time. Its been a long time since Ive had some oxycontins to snort, but just the thought of it still sends shivers down my spine. That rush combined with weed is just... holy fuck.[/QUOTE]
OC is everywhere in south jersey. Its terrible. Everybody is hooked.
I :love: opiates.
[QUOTE=steven688;25107898]Just took 100mg Ultram. Some said it has similar effects to heroin, I'll keep updating how it goes if anyone cares.[/QUOTE]
Wut.
Ultram is Tramadol, it has a lower potency than hydrocodone but higher than codeine. My guess is that it is nowhere near the potency of an incredibly strong opiate.
afaik the scale is oxycontin>hydrocodone>codeine>tramadol right?
[QUOTE=Rediscover;25180754]afaik the scale is oxycontin>hydrocodone>codeine>tramadol right?[/QUOTE]
Codeine < Tramadol < Hydrocodone < Oxycontin < Fenatyl
is fenatyl that one that's like the ultimate opioid? it's like 50x more potent than pure heroin?
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;25181181]is fenatyl that one that's like the ultimate opioid? it's like 50x more potent than pure heroin?[/QUOTE]
Fentanyl is approximately 100 times more potent than morphine,
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The use of fentanyl has caused death. Because the effects of fentanyl last for only a very short time, it is even more addictive than heroin, and regular users may become addicted very quickly
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Oh I've had oxycontin because I got my appendix out. I wasn't into drugs at the time but it made me feel pretty amazing. In the hospital they had me on morphine and they kept asking me if I wanted more, but I didn't care because it didn't make me feel any different. That oxycotin got me banned off my favorite CSS server because it happened to make me amazing at the game and everyone thought I was hacking. I felt like I was hacking because I was just getting kills I shouldn't have been getting, and I had a perfect game in gungame.
[QUOTE=Rizla;25181515]Fentanyl is approximately 100 times more potent than morphine,
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The use of fentanyl has caused death. Because the effects of fentanyl last for only a very short time, it is even more addictive than heroin, and regular users may become addicted very quickly[/QUOTE]
That's what I meant earlier, and yeah iirc it causes quite a few 'heroin' deaths when it's cut with fentanyl. Edit: Dude I keep thinking you're Lasgun
Is insomnia a symptom of withdrawal? I seem to be getting it a fair bit now, don't get me wrong I can still sleep just it takes me 2-3 hours to fall asleep unless I've been using beforehand. I think I'm going to take a break soon, been using for about 1.5 months now and I can notice the pull is coming on, so I'll not buy it after I've finished what I've got now.
how about you flush what you've got now down the toilet and never pick it up again?
I have self control. I am functioning fine else where the sleeplessness is all I have noticed.
noone has that much control
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;25183035]noone has that much control[/QUOTE]
If you have used it before I will take your advice with some weight, besides I've just finished what I had anyway so looks like I won't be using it again now, probably give it a months rest then go back for a month.
[QUOTE=Callius;25182594]I have self control. I am functioning fine else where the sleeplessness is all I have noticed.[/QUOTE]
You're in denial.
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