Graffiti and Street Art - General

[QUOTE=homemade.;32472149]you do better k thx[/QUOTE] I'm going to miss your credibility

[QUOTE=homemade.;32459943] [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] for newt [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/newt.jpg[/IMG] next post blah blah blah messy blah blah blah scribbles blah blah blah im better than everyone blah blah blah [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] WOAH that image is HUUUUUGGEEEE[/QUOTE] For being this awful, you sure dish out a bizarre amount of criticism.

[QUOTE=Hap;32476302]For being this awful, you sure dish out a bizarre amount of arrogance.[/QUOTE] fixed

Actually started stenciling last Friday, so far I've actually done a couple of pieces and wondered if you guys would like 'em. Check 'em out! [B]Disclaimer:[/B] I am a beginner, this isn't a pros work. Don't expect my pieces to be better than Banksy's or Alone's work. [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/fm0wm0.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2w6f0d2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/2qc1p55.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/zl6cqv.jpg[/IMG] [editline]September 26th,2011[/editline] And please, only constructive criticism.

[QUOTE=Pascall;32457608]Found some cool shit on Tumblr: [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrr5jsUThj1r0shjlo1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrzopjRX1E1qmebono1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrsy3yVBS51qzg63vo1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls14j40cxs1r13l3bo1_500.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE] holy shit never seen that before.

[QUOTE=ShadoWxAssassiN;32478761]Actually started stenciling last Friday, so far I've actually done a couple of pieces and wondered if you guys would like 'em. Check 'em out! [B]Disclaimer:[/B] I am a beginner, this isn't a pros work. Don't expect my pieces to be better than Banksy's or Alone's work. [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/fm0wm0.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2w6f0d2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/2qc1p55.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/zl6cqv.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] here is your one stop guide to street art [url]www.art-fag.com[/url] [editline]26th September 2011[/editline] oh yeah and atleast my throwup is better than the horrible one that newt did [editline]26th September 2011[/editline] and dont expect something i took 30 seconds to do to be amazing...

Perhaps you should spend some more time refining your techniques so 30-second shit won't look like 30-second shit. I thought that was part of being a graffiti artist, no?

i thought the point of it all was to get my own nike colourway? [video=youtube;P3W7_XKZAs4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3W7_XKZAs4[/video] [editline]26th September 2011[/editline] if you wanna learn how to do some bad ass graffiti then watch this vid right here\/ [video=vimeo;19349921]http://vimeo.com/19349921[/video] [editline]26th September 2011[/editline] and its still better than all the shit newt posted

No it's not.

ok then. you wanna battle?? lets have a outline battle then (piece) you choose the word ~~~~~ wait i think you got newt confused with someone else just a reminder [QUOTE=killerbanjo;32288570]Ok guys drew another peice today. Wanted the bubbles to be blue but only had a black and red pen :( NSFW: [url]http://i.imgur.com/zg5tR.jpg[/url] [/QUOTE]

Oh boy, this should be good.

[QUOTE=homemade.;32504956]ok then. you wanna battle?? lets have a outline battle then (piece) you choose the word ~~~~~ wait i think you got newt confused with someone else just a reminder[/QUOTE] It's so much better than that thing you drew.

[QUOTE=homemade.;32504956]ok then. you wanna battle?? lets have a outline battle then (piece) you choose the word ~~~~~ wait i think you got newt confused with someone else just a reminder[/QUOTE] So you pmuch asked a dude out on your... chav duel with spraycans because his first tag was better than all you've done so far? [IMG]http://premoguild.com/forums/images/smilies/emot-munch.gif[/IMG] [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] I should come here more often again.

[QUOTE=homemade.;32493618]and its still better than all the shit newt posted[/QUOTE] a pile of shit on my lawn isn't better than a bigger pile of shit just because it's slightly smaller

[QUOTE=homemade.;32493618]i thought the point of it all was to get my own nike colourway? [video=youtube;P3W7_XKZAs4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3W7_XKZAs4[/video] [editline]26th September 2011[/editline] if you wanna learn how to do some bad ass graffiti then watch this vid right here\/ [video=vimeo;19349921]http://vimeo.com/19349921[/video] [editline]26th September 2011[/editline] and its still better than all the shit newt posted[/QUOTE] im not street art aficionado, but this was really really terrible no matter what it was on a general gauge of 'anything', it sucks

i like how when i post a picture everybody jumps on it and says how bad it is but when someone else posts somethnig noone does?

Because we haven't really seen many things being posted that are not aesthetically pleasing other than the stuff you post. If someone posted something terrible, they'd probably be jumped on just as quickly.

[QUOTE=homemade.;32508841]i like how when i post a picture everybody jumps on it and says how bad it is but when someone else posts somethnig noone does?[/QUOTE] YOUR SCRIBBLES SUCK. It's mindless vandalism, not art. If anything, what you post is the stuff that gives street artists a bad reputation. THIS IS ART: [img]http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3024/1312601609140.jpg[/img] [img]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9210/1311620703764.jpg[/img] [img]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/132/1314829371481.jpg[/img] [b]THIS IS SHIT:[/b] [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/2168896372_58cdcdf4a2.jpg[/img] It's time to learn the difference. [editline]September 27th, 2011[/editline] haha, don't follow all my posts and rate them all dumb because i made you feel bad, grow up

some old ish pieces [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/100_2467%20%28Small%29.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/100_2468%20%28Small%29.JPG[/IMG] the s messed up a little and my lines are too shaky [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GhostProject;32508989]YOUR SCRIBBLES SUCK. It's mindless vandalism, not art. If anything, what you post is the stuff that gives street artists a bad reputation. [/QUOTE] AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHA without the fucking tags back in the 70's there wouldnt be any of your ""art"" real writers will always look down on you retarded street fags [I]always[/I]

your stuff is pmuch horrible. Pedobear is easy to redraw and you've managed to fuck that up real bad. also vandalizing memes on walls. You're 13 aren't you?

what the hell is a "real writer"? anyone who scribbles their name in bubble letters on a wall just says "I did this so I could write my name here". There's nothing special about it. It's boring to look at, holds no meaning other than territory claiming and can be seen anywhere. It's overdone and unoriginal. You cannot honestly look at this and tell me it is not art: [img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls76k5AX861qgsm4zo1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls70nt5D9G1qzrmzno1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls70dun4tn1r26zdio1_500.jpg[/img] And if you can, then you are beyond help.

[QUOTE=homemade.;32459943][IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13341191/a/newt.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Wow, You come in here, talk all this crap and this is what you deliver?

[QUOTE=Pascall;32509601]what the hell is a "real writer"? anyone who scribbles their name in bubble letters on a wall just says "I did this so I could write my name here". There's nothing special about it. It's boring to look at, holds no meaning other than territory claiming and can be seen anywhere. It's overdone and unoriginal. You cannot honestly look at this and tell me it is not art: [img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls76k5AX861qgsm4zo1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls70nt5D9G1qzrmzno1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls70dun4tn1r26zdio1_500.jpg[/img] And if you can, then you are beyond help.[/QUOTE] i can appreciate it as art but its not exactly "street" and when someone goes around slagging off graffiti and have a "holier than thou" mentality when it comes to graffiti [QUOTE=HOST18 DYM] I've personally been getting pissed off at Street Artists for years now, most of them seem to have no respect or regard for Graffiti. I have seen work that was up since the 80's completely covered by stencils, wheatpastes and paint. After all this came to a boil. I decided to take action, against the show and also against Street Art. These 'Street Artists' needed to be shown, no, you are not going to be allowed to disrespect Graffiti any further and when you do, you will pay a price. I'm going to war with these people, if I see any Street Art over Graffiti, I'm going over it. I been doing this for over 15 years, I'm not allowing some art school nerd disrespect me or my peers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=homemade.;32510101]i can appreciate it as art but its not exactly "street" and when someone goes around slagging off graffiti and have a "holier than thou" mentality when it comes to graffiti[QUOTE=HOST18 DYM]I've personally been getting pissed off at Street Artists for years now, most of them seem to have no respect or regard for Graffiti. I have seen work that was up since the 80's completely covered by stencils, wheatpastes and paint. After all this came to a boil. I decided to take action, against the show and also against Street Art. These 'Street Artists' needed to be shown, no, you are not going to be allowed to disrespect Graffiti any further and when you do, you will pay a price. I'm going to war with these people, if I see any Street Art over Graffiti, I'm going over it. I been doing this for over 15 years, I'm not allowing some art school nerd disrespect me or my peers.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/59wDp.jpg[/IMG]

[quote]I've personally been getting pissed off at Street Artists for years now, most of them seem to have no respect or regard for Graffiti. I have seen work that was up since the 80's completely covered by stencils, wheatpastes and paint. After all this came to a boil. I decided to take action, against the show and also against Street Art. These 'Street Artists' needed to be shown, no, you are not going to be allowed to disrespect Graffiti any further and when you do, you will pay a price. I'm going to war with these people, if I see any Street Art over Graffiti, I'm going over it. I been doing this for over 15 years, I'm not allowing some art school nerd disrespect me or my peers.[/quote] This guy isn't exactly being "street" if he goes around scribbling over stuff because he's easily angered at vandalism. Welcome to the goddamn graffiti game, don't forget your brochure.

I don't understand why both mediums can't co-exist. Granted, graffiti is a good far off ways from being widely accepted as anything but vandalism because of its negative connotations with gangs and crime, but both are forms of art, however ugly they may or may not be.

[QUOTE=GhostProject;32510173]This guy isn't exactly being "street" if he goes around scribbling over stuff because he's easily angered at vandalism.[/QUOTE] he isnt getting mad at anthing hes getting mad at the "street artists"(pronounced artfags) that go over work from the 80's with shi... Highly original and thought provoking artworks it's time the spoiled hipsters got a taste of reality. Old school Graffiti writers have to worry about their murals and production getting dissed and crossed out by toys, building workers and the City constantly - why should so-called 'Street Artists' get any preferential treatment? That kind of attitude draws a distinction between high and low Street Art, which is exactly the kind of bullshit that most artists would claim to be subverting. Welcome to the streets. [IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QDNcVKtfIvo/RiIZBUum4yI/AAAAAAAAAAM/l3ixye1v84E/s1600/slasher3.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE] Street Art is creating commodity over property that is waiting to sky rocket in value. The Street Artists who have beef with the Slasher act like its their right to display their art on the street anyways. It is not. What is vital about Graffiti is that it’s illegal. It takes a special kind of person to actually call themselves a "writer". To be a writer takes serious effort. In a most cases you're risking life and limb on a regular basis. Street Art (in most cases) is too relaxed a form of Outsider Art. Graffiti is a medium for boarder line criminals and maniacs who insist on testing every limit. Street Art is for frustrated graphic designers with too much time on their hands and not enough creative control in their day jobs (in advertising: how IRONIC!!). [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QDNcVKtfIvo/RiIZw0um4zI/AAAAAAAAAAU/N4YZFva0ubU/s1600/slasher1.jpg[/IMG]

Street Artists are not street artists if they're receiving preferential treatment by cities or owners of properties. They're just normal artists. A part of street art is the illegality of it which makes them just as susceptible of having other people cover over the art with their own and not having a say in it. If they hold themselves in higher regard and expect this not to happen then that's thinking too highly of themselves. But that doesn't mean that anyone should purposely go and cover up the artwork of someone else with their own. How would you know the opinions of the artist unless you knew that person personally? You could be covering up a work by someone who is perfectly okay with graffiti as an art form. Vandalizing someone else's work just because some street artists have huge egos isn't the right way to teach anyone anything.

[QUOTE=homemade.;32510551]he isnt getting mad at anthing hes getting mad at the "street artists"(pronounced artfags) that go over work from the 80's with shi... Highly original and thought provoking artworks it's time the spoiled hipsters got a taste of reality. Old school Graffiti writers have to worry about their murals and production getting dissed and crossed out by toys, building workers and the City constantly - why should so-called 'Street Artists' get any preferential treatment? That kind of attitude draws a distinction between high and low Street Art, which is exactly the kind of bullshit that most artists would claim to be subverting. Welcome to the streets. [IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QDNcVKtfIvo/RiIZBUum4yI/AAAAAAAAAAM/l3ixye1v84E/s1600/slasher3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QDNcVKtfIvo/RiIZw0um4zI/AAAAAAAAAAU/N4YZFva0ubU/s1600/slasher1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Nothing to see here folks, Just a spoiled 12 year old clinging to [url=http://tag-line.blogspot.com/2007/04/evaluations-debates-and-comparisons.html]a blog from 2007[/url]. [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] Hell, you even just copy/pasted his dialogue a few times

[QUOTE=homemade.;32510551]he isnt getting mad at anthing hes getting mad at the "street artists"(pronounced artfags) that go over work from the 80's with shi... Highly original and thought provoking artworks it's time the spoiled hipsters got a taste of reality. Old school Graffiti writers have to worry about their murals and production getting dissed and crossed out by toys, building workers and the City constantly - why should so-called 'Street Artists' get any preferential treatment? That kind of attitude draws a distinction between high and low Street Art, which is exactly the kind of bullshit that most artists would claim to be subverting. Welcome to the streets. [IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QDNcVKtfIvo/RiIZBUum4yI/AAAAAAAAAAM/l3ixye1v84E/s1600/slasher3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QDNcVKtfIvo/RiIZw0um4zI/AAAAAAAAAAU/N4YZFva0ubU/s1600/slasher1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] What he's doing seems kinda cool [sp]actually, no, it's not cool[/sp], but none the less, it's stupid. There's no point in ruining the artwork. although the wheatpaste with glass is kinda neat, it's also equally as stupid. Also; you're a fucking baby if you resort to messing with other people's artwork because they did it over some shit most people would call "scribbles" or "gang markings". my work gets painted over all the time, and I don't whine and post propaganda on how pissy I are. IMHO, these trantrums are a result of [b]JEALOUSY[/b].