See, that's the funny thing. It started as MILD, but kept me awake more than numbers or stairs. It was... terrible, in a way, but exciting. Dammit, now I feel like typing it all up, time to sit here for an hour.
Basically, the past few weeks I've been up too late and been sleeping until 12 or 1. I despise that sort of life and feel like I was getting nothing done, so I've been going to bed earlier and such while waking up earlier. At about 12 last night I went to bed (More like 12:30), though something strange was going on. There's a lift station right next to my house, and sometimes it overflows. Throughout the night there were utility trucks going by my house and making a constant infernal racket as they pumped the station. This served as a minor annoyance to me.
Of note, there's also a clock on the other side of my room that, of course, ticks every second. I've had a theory that it was keeping me from WILD for a while. If the trucks weren't keeping me awake the clock was.
Besides describing my environment, what actually happened was I got in bed at like 12:30. When I go to bed I leave my TV (Which I use as a monitor) on my desktop with Rainmeter going, and therefore two large clocks (I have a strange setup). I could see these before I closed my eyes, and last I checked it was like 12:41. Of note, I have a rather bright desktop that I can "see" the light of through my eyelids. The computer goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes and the display goes off after 20. I hadn't touched the computer for about 5 minutes prior to getting to bed, so it went off 5 minutes "early".
So I got in a comfortable position, figuring if I was going to try MILD attempting a WILD with the mantra wouldn't cause me any loss. I lay there perfectly still, except I'm restless, in a way. I attribute much of it to the trucks and my clock, though some of it seemed to be forced habit or reflex. My mantra was the ever-classic "I will remember my dreams." Throughout this time I began to numb up and such. The blackness following the shutoff excited me, as always, and my heart began racing. The entire time, though, I had trouble keeping my eyelids firmly closed, and I was swallowing quite a lot.
These "habits" kept me up for a while. There were a few times, usually during the clanging and roaring of the trucks, where I felt a tad more nebulous and the world was a bit darker. I had thought I possibly slipped into a dream, but was uncertain and didn't attempt to move. If the trucks weren't going then the clock was, keeping me up through annoyance. After about 5 cycles of trucks coming and going, I felt I was either staring at my dream eyelids or just annoyingly awake. Conveniently I just THEN remembered the tongue-to-the-teeth reality check and tried it. It of course failed.
I couldn't take that as an answer, so I opened my eyelids. Normal room. I got up, feeling EXTREMELY light, and turned on my TV after shaking my mouse to wake up the computer. I brought up Google and read some text on the bottom (Firefox version), spun around, and read it again to no avail. Same text. I closed my eyes and flicked on the light on my fan, which I could tell turned on. After a few more checks I finally accepted I was awake. I looked at my Rainmeter clock and raged at this point. Amidst bodily pain and loss of sleep, I had sat there perfectly still until 1:51. I had been laying there sleepless for just over an hour because of the fucking trucks and the clock.
After going to the bathroom, I took the battery out of the clock and tried again. As I lay in the same position as before, still repeating the mantra, I felt pain in my ribs from laying on that one side for so damn long. I rolled onto my back and tried again, more comfortable, but eventually just went to sleep God knows how long after. When my 5:00 alarm went off, I don't recall if I attempted WILD again or just shrugged it off and slept, though I'm leaning to the latter. I got to my alarm and turned it off surprisingly lucid, though, but whatever.
Nothing the rest of the night until my alarm at 9:30. I got up, said hello to my Dad, posted my last message, and lay back down, feeling not quite awake yet. At this point I lapsed back to sleep until 1:30. Soon after I started writing this. It is of note I didn't remember any dreaming last night.
So yeah, not much to comment on but there's all of that. Tonight I'm trying MILD EXCLUSIVELY after two bananas with my clock sans-battery. Hopefully I'll actually get results tonight. What was I doing wrong? I was more focused than usual and lasted much longer in the dark. Was it the clock and the truck, the habits, or what? Does swallowing really keep you up that much?
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Side note, I'm so very sorry. I need to stop making such long posts with no provocation.
after getting into a big religious argument with a friend of mine i had a dream later where i saved jesus from being crucified.
trippy shit.
A bird got into my window and turned into a cat.
I thought "Hey, maybe it's a dream!" and did some reality checks. They did not work, and everything gave me an extreme sensation of realism...
Therefore, I failed to achieve lucidity and gain complete access to my marvelous brain, which always wants to go on wacky adventures in dreamville.
I wake up, and my brain basically screams "You idiot! How did you miss [i]that[/i]?"
:saddowns:
I've had a few lucid dreams.
It's time to improve my recall.
I'll go make some of that incredibly tasty shit
Last night I tried the nap version of WILD, even thought I was going to sleep. I did the whole going down steps and counting them deal. The first time I felt the onset of sleep coming (My extremities got all tingly) I got excited at the prospect of this actually working, my heart rate increased which in turn woke me up. So I opened my eyes, scratched some itches, and went for a second go. This time I got to the tingly-ness part and managed to stay calm, but it was getting increasingly difficult to focus on counting the steps and it kept switching from steps to blackness (Like I was trying to focus my eyes in a pitch black room, different from just having your eyes closed), I assume this was the beginning of a dream, but at that point my brain said "Bye" and the next thing I know it's morning and I don't remember anything that happened :frown:
Erm, could anybody explain to me what happened. Basically, i was dreaming as usual but i went up to my room for some reason, i don't remember going in, but as i was walking back down the stairs i remember seeing my bedroom light on and quite casually saying 'gotta check that light bulb' -in my mind i was basically saying 'i'm dreaming i have to do the light switch test'-. At that point everything in my dream went fuzzy and i woke up in my bed, so i think i shocked myself awake as soon i realised i was dreaming.
So, when i woke up i heard a very loud ringing noise in my ears, accompanied by my head throbbing really hard, at this point i tell myself that i'm in the stage before lucid dreaming, but i'm so deathly afraid of sleep paralysis that a just tried to wiggle my fingers and subsequently woke up.
So i know this doesn't sound very strange, but the whole ears ringing and head throbbing thing kind of unnerved me a little bit, and I've read in this thread that a buzzing or ringing noise means that you are ready to go into a lucid dream, just sort of feels like a waster opportunity really :\
Rarely are you ready to MILD directly after waking up. Honestly, after reading the symptoms, I'd say you were dehydrated.
I finally managed to write down one of my dreams before I forgot it... Unfortunately I can't make any sense of it because I wrote it all down on a sheet of printer paper in random bursts, but hopefully it'll still help with recall.
So far I think it goes like this though; Someone I don't know (I think that I never saw them in the dream at all) and myself are trying to find a place to go fuck (This goes on for a little bit) then someone directs us to the "romp room". We get ready for action, then someone comes and kicks us out of the room. Next (There was something before this part, but I don't remember it), I'm in the garage and there's a projector like the ones they hang from the ceiling in schools for the computers, I turn it on and something starts to show up (Not sure what it was, it looked like the Last.fm homepage though) but then something happened (Not sure what) and then I (in 3rd person) saw the oldest brother from the show Malcolm in the Middle sitting on a stone wall in the snow with a moose behind him (the moose looked CG for some reason). In the dream I somehow had knowledge that the guy was supposed to be me, and I saw some parts in 1st person. As I/He was sitting there lamenting something, an old indian comes and says something (all this time I've been holding a thing that looks like a tiller muffler filled with gas and spilling it out rocking it from side to side), and I/The Guy have a revelation and forgive the moose for something (I forget what the indian guy said, and what I was forgiving the moose for) I saw this in 1st person, after I forgive the moose, it flies away and I return to the garage (I think) and then I woke up.
Pretty nonsensical, shame is I started to realize "Oh shit, moose can't fly in real life" maybe 30 seconds before the dream ended. Oh, and the whole dream took place in a sort of altered version of my grandmother's old house
Are there any other foods like bananas that I can eat to help me achieve lucidity?
I don't like bananas...
My dream cycled on guitar solos and I found myself awake.
Hrm. I didn't write much of my dream down, I rarely write my dreams down because I just roll over and go back to sleep or don't realize I just remembered it half the time. However, I did recognize a pattern that's been continuous throughout my dreams for a while.
Many of them that I remember deal with my school and/or elevators. However, I can't exactly instigate a conscious reality check as it's summer and I'm not particularly close to any elevators frequently. What's the recommended course of action?
God damn how do you stop your eyes moving when you're trying to stay perfectly still?
I'm trying to do the whole 'lay still and don't move and don't think' thing, but my eyes ruin it for me. I get the feeling that they're drifting, then I feel a strain in the muscles around my eyes as if they're looking at some extreme angle. It's annoying as shit.
[QUOTE=Jebus;23178218]God damn how do you stop your eyes moving when you're trying to stay perfectly still?
I'm trying to do the whole 'lay still and don't move and don't think' thing, but my eyes ruin it for me. I get the feeling that they're drifting, then I feel a strain in the muscles around my eyes as if they're looking at some extreme angle. It's annoying as shit.[/QUOTE]
The absolute hardest part of WILDs for me is the feeling of my eyes drifting and resisting the urge to stop them from doing it. The only way to not do it is to like...daydream, sort of. You ever stare off into space and then realize you're doing it while you're doing it, but you keep doing it? It's like that. you need to be able to drift off while acknowledging you're drifting off. It's difficult.
Is seeing my deceased cat 2 times in seperate dreams a dreamsign?
And always, my mom/dad says something like "Oh, there she is!"
Read through most of this thread tonight, rather impressed. I'd like someone who knows about this stuff evaluate some of my experiences.
For whatever reason, I cannot actively engage myself into lucid dreams. If I try one of the methods, I'll eventually go into SP and then horrifying crap occurs and will jolt me from it as soon as physically possible. The OP does not lie when he said that SP induces horrifying and creepy images around you. It doesn't matter if you have your eyes closed or face in a pillow when you are attempting to go lucid or not, there's always "room" for a image or something to show up.
On the few blessed occasions I HAVE slipped into lucidity after achieving dream state, it's been awesome. Re-enacting some favorite anime moments with you as the main character, doing mind defying stuff like flying and bullet-time, and even staging planetary resistance against a Tyranid and Zombie invasion (Yes, weird but amazingly awesome cutting down hordes of monsters that would freak normal people out).
I wanted to ask though if anyone ever had a lucid dream where you have control at first, and then your "subconscious" intervenes and shapes things to what it really wants. Like you have control and then lose it gradually as your brain takes back over.
Also, believe the OP when he says don't ask your subconscious what your greatest fear is. You really don't want to know, and it will probably make you have recurring nightmares that are worse than regular ones now that you know what it is.
[QUOTE=Jebus;23178218]God damn how do you stop your eyes moving when you're trying to stay perfectly still?
I'm trying to do the whole 'lay still and don't move and don't think' thing, but my eyes ruin it for me. I get the feeling that they're drifting, then I feel a strain in the muscles around my eyes as if they're looking at some extreme angle. It's annoying as shit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;23179748]The absolute hardest part of WILDs for me is the feeling of my eyes drifting and resisting the urge to stop them from doing it. The only way to not do it is to like...daydream, sort of. You ever stare off into space and then realize you're doing it while you're doing it, but you keep doing it? It's like that. you need to be able to drift off while acknowledging you're drifting off. It's difficult.[/QUOTE]
you guys are concentrating too much. the point of the WILD is to still go to sleep, you just try to be conscious when you finally do.
my first WILD was an accident. i had it because i was going to sleep normally but I kept myself conscious (accidentally, I do it sometimes when I think about WILDING) when I was about to fall asleep.
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so basically next time you WILD, do everything you would normally do when you go to sleep, but keep yourself conscious.
you could even try what i did and go to sleep normally and just keep yourself conscious near the end when you feel yourself going to sleep
Last night I was trying to WILD and after going through the electricity stage and stuff, my eyelids started flickering wildly(unintentional pun), and I couldn't control them, then I panicked and managed to move.
Was I close to WILD, or is this something different?
[QUOTE=Conscript;23194122]you guys are concentrating too much. the point of the WILD is to still go to sleep, you just try to be conscious when you finally do.
my first WILD was an accident. i had it because i was going to sleep normally but I kept myself conscious (accidentally, I do it sometimes when I think about WILDING) when I was about to fall asleep.
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so basically next time you WILD, do everything you would normally do when you go to sleep, but keep yourself conscious.
you could even try what i did and go to sleep normally and just keep yourself conscious near the end when you feel yourself going to sleep[/QUOTE]
You are an idiot. The statement "just stay conscious" tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. It's not that easy, and I'm not thinking too hard. Experiences vary, everyone's different. Just because it was easy for you doesn't mean it's easy for everyone.
I never said it was easy (who's the idiot?). I have no idea what I'm talking about? This is purely from my experience and those of others, especially [url=http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=96892]this thread[/url]
why the hell is facepunch so argumentative today? I was just trying to help
My dreams tend to be very realistic. I'm not saying vivid but the events are a lot like real life and nothing crazy or exciting really happens. Does this mean I don't have a good imagination or something lol? Also they tend to be very nonlinear like they're constantly jumping from one subject to the next. There's never any specific theme going on within the dream. It's really bugging me.
Had dreams that I was surrounded by bugs, there were also maggots coming out of my arms.
For some reason I was only mildly annoyed.
Last night I tried to WILD, fell asleep and now here I am.
I do remember a very small snippet of a dream though. I was on facebook and my best friend had a status that said something along the lines of "old friend," like we weren't friends anymore. That's all I remember.
BTW That's the first entry to my dream journal.
Well I have something to share with you all, a dream.
It starts out strange, I usually ride down to 7 eleven everyday for a slurpee with my friends. Instead no one was there and it was night. The place where I parked my bike, was now a house. Me being in no control walked in, looking around I found a computer which I ripped out the hard drive and graphics card. Then a little girl walked up to me, I told her to go away and she ran. I went upstairs and took a piss what apparently was the parents bedroom. Then I went home. It seems that the little girl was a computer expert and sent me a fuckton of spam, She got a hold of my Steam account, Facepunch, and Xboxlive. I was permabanned for years. Then she got in remote control of my computer. She then proceeded to delete every. single. file. in front of me. I couldn't move. All my essays, all my games. My videos. GONE. I woke up in fear.
Oh god
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;23227563]Well I have something to share with you all, a dream.
It starts out strange, I usually ride down to 7 eleven everyday for a slurpee with my friends. Instead no one was there and it was night. The place where I parked my bike, was now a house. Me being in no control walked in, looking around I found a computer which I ripped out the hard drive and graphics card. Then a little girl walked up to me, I told her to go away and she ran. I went upstairs and took a piss what apparently was the parents bedroom. Then I went home. It seems that the little girl was a computer expert and sent me a fuckton of spam, She got a hold of my Steam account, Facepunch, and Xboxlive. I was permabanned for years. Then she got in remote control of my computer. She then proceeded to delete every. single. file. in front of me. I couldn't move. All my essays, all my games. My videos. GONE. I woke up in fear.
Oh god[/QUOTE]
I think you need to get off your computer, bro.
I think thats want it is telling me, I'm relaxing in my pool the whole day. But all my childhood videos and my old school work and pictures were gone.
You know, the hardest thing for me to get lucid, because everytime i dream, i dream that its just some new-fangled MMO or something, thus i think its a game, it shouldn't follow logic and i dont obtain lucidity.
I just had a very good attempt at WILDing just now. I was reading some of the stuff in the link that Conscript posted (big props to you, I wouldn't of found this without that link you just posted) and stumbled upon this which encouraged you to focus on the feeling of contact between your body and pillows or your bed:
[QUOTE=svallens.com]...One more WILD technique is the twin bodies technique.
[LIST]
[*]Step 1.) Focus on your body and what you feel.
[*]Step 2.) Continue Step 1. At some point you should feel weird distortions or vibrations of your body, which happen on the brink of dream sleep.
[*]Step 3.) Finally, after a while, you (now in your dream body) can leave your now-asleep physical body and explore or change your dream world.
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[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://svallens.com/epall/LucidDreaming.html[/URL]
It was about 7:00pm in the day I decided to try this. I was on my bed for about 7-10 minutes and I started to feel what I think were vibrations, they weren't intense like a jackhammer or anything, they were quite light and short but eventually became more frequent.
As I went on focusing on the feeling between my hands and my pillow and such I began to hear a sort of buzzing which was nothing like I expected. It wasn't like a bee or something loud, it was a continuous low pitched sort of humming noise, it kind of felt like an ambient noise you would find a in a large place such as a church and was in 'waves', it's quite surreal and hard to describe.
By this point it was becoming difficult to focus on that feeling on my skin and I became easily distracted by imagery. My hands felt a bit paralyzed (like if you slept on your arm and woke up to it being numb) and felt 'huge' (again, that's hard to describe).
The buzzing was becoming clearer, I was thinking that I hadn't felt that wave of paralysis when suddenly I felt as if I knew it was coming, everything went darker and I felt that intense sensation in my body. Part of me didn't know what on earth was going on and my heart began to thump really hard. After I calmed down a bit I knew I had lost progress and momentum so I decided to get up.
So I had WEIRD fucking dreams last night.
So it all started normal, more or less. I was tired so I went to bed at like 10:30. My girlfriend stayed up until like 12 playing the Sims.
I fell asleep immediately and nothing happened, but then when my girlfriend jumped into bed at like 12:30, things got really weird really quickly. First of all, I was more or less unconscious, but not really. Like I could feel her being there, but I was completely dreaming. I thought her hands were like sunlight and my feet were big patches of lawn, with grass under my feet and below that big chunks of dirt, and below that, hot rivers of lava. So whenever she'd twitch and move I'd move my feet so they wouldn't get burnt. It's a weird night when the thought "god i hope she doesn't put her hands on my waist or my feet will turn brown and wilt" passes through your head, as it did mine.
Well, after that, she rolled over and I fell asleep, and then it got very weird. I had a dream that I was on top of a train with her and someone else, and we were all wearing Team Rocket uniforms. There was a building on the side of the track (we were elevated far off the ground, like a future city or something) and apparently it was very important that one of us gets to that building's roof, because something important was on top of it. So I said "don't worry, i've got this", and then just made a running start and jumped onto the roof. Then I magically like teleported back onto the train, and then had another bizarre dream sequence.
We were in like a tattoo parlor and she was like "look at this tattoo, i'm putting it near my vag" and i looked and it was a random series of letters (I recognized this, but was too tired to MILD). So then it flashed to a future shot and she was like showing it to me and i was like "hey they put it too far down and cut off most of it." and she was like "yeah." and I was like "you should get a refund" and she was like "yeah, i guess I should". So we went to Wal-Mart and talked to the Sales manager and he agreed to a refund, but only if we bought a bunch of alpaca wool sweaters that were on sale. We agreed, but then as we left Wal-Mart we wondered what we would do with a bunch of sweaters, which had grown in size significantly and threatened the confines of our wal-mart cart.
Then I woke up. My mind confuses me.
I just wanted to know from someone who has done this, is it easy not to ask about your biggest fear?
What would you recommened if I'm trying to avoid asking that question, because I'm afraid if I try I will end up asking.
Dude you still haven't updated the thread, says that it will be done by Wednesday months ago.
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