• Sleep and Dreams Megathread
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[QUOTE=Zinayzen;24395825]I just read the rest of this page. You guys keep thinking of subs like they're separate people. You don't need to gain it's trust, that's ridiculous. Your sub doesn't grant you lucidity.[/quote] This is why I was so confused. Your sub is you, so I would assume that if you had the will to lucid dream then you should.
It's hard to explain how your sub works in a dream. It's the Architect, the characters, the personified character, the controller, the gatekeeper if you will, and a bunch of other stuff. It's kind of like your subconscious is God and your sub is Jesus.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;24395825] Jake's having weird confidence issues with his because it's trying to make him act more like himself in daily life.[/QUOTE] I just want it to be completely honest and it can't even do that :colbert:
Something tells me that when I meet my sub it'll be influenced by you two and your adventures with your subs.
Somethings aren't meant to be known is the moral I suppose
Can somone simply explain the fastes way to LD and explain how to do mild, i read the op but im confused.
zin we have customers
[QUOTE=solid_jakeV2;24395894]I just want it to be completely honest and it can't even do that :colbert:[/QUOTE] of course it can be honest, but it knows that won't help you out. Here's a story that's unrelated but will illustrate my point. I play golf a lot. I'm not that good, so I decided to start taking lessons from a pro golfer I know. She, having played for 40+ years, obviously can instantly see what's wrong with me. However, knowing the rules of the game and the way people operate much better than I do, she does not point out every flaw. [I]Instead,[/I] she works on one little thing at a time, making sure that's perfect before moving to something else. Because if that's done for long enough, eventually I'll be amazing. If she just told me everything that was wrong, I wouldn't even know where to begin. And that's what your sub is doing. If it were perfectly honest you'd be overwhelmed and you wouldn't know where to start. It knows you better than you do, so just go with it.
Can your subconcsious remember your thoughts from when you were awake - like if you were thinking about food (example) all day, your sub would remember? (the dream would also be influenced aswell but..)
[QUOTE=DJSergei;24395940]Can somone simply explain the fastes way to LD and explain how to do mild, i read the op but im confused.[/QUOTE] WILDing is the fastest, but it's hard. I suggest MILD first. MILD is basically a "mnemonic induced lucid dream", or "Motto induced lucid dream" if you don't know what a mnemonic is. Basically, before you go to bed, just keep telling yourself "I will remember my dreams." over and over again. Keep a dream journal. When you wake up, write down any details you remember. This will improve your recall. Eventually, once that's decent, start saying "I will realize I'm dreaming". Once that works, congratulations, you're LDing.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;24395960]of course it can be honest, but it knows that won't help you out. Here's a story that's unrelated but will illustrate my point. I play golf a lot. I'm not that good, so I decided to start taking lessons from a pro golfer I know. She, having played for 40+ years, obviously can instantly see what's wrong with me. However, knowing the rules of the game and the way people operate much better than I do, she does not point out every flaw. [I]Instead,[/I] she works on one little thing at a time, making sure that's perfect before moving to something else. Because if that's done for long enough, eventually I'll be amazing. If she just told me everything that was wrong, I wouldn't even know where to begin. And that's what your sub is doing. If it were perfectly honest you'd be overwhelmed and you wouldn't know where to start. It knows you better than you do, so just go with it.[/QUOTE] Yeah I realized that a few minutes after I posted it. [editline]04:27PM[/editline] I really need a "Sleep Apprentice" avatar this pelvic thrusting guy is giving the wrong signals
[QUOTE=SteeleCratos;24395912]Something tells me that when I meet my sub it'll be influenced by you two and your adventures with your subs.[/QUOTE] This :C
[QUOTE=solid_jakeV2;24396016]Yeah I realized that a few minutes after I posted it. [editline]04:27PM[/editline] I really need a "Sleep Apprentice" avatar this pelvic thrusting guy is giving the wrong signals[/QUOTE] actually it seems rather appropriate
If you think our subs are cool and are like "ohman I wish my sub is like that" sure enough they will be [editline]04:30PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zinayzen;24396073]actually it seems rather appropriate[/QUOTE] [B]That's the problem![/B]
[QUOTE=solid_jakeV2;24396090]If you think our subs are cool and are like "ohman I wish my sub is like that" sure enough they will be [editline]04:30PM[/editline] [B]That's the problem![/B][/QUOTE] I don't want my sub to be like zin's, turning into agent smith while sucking on my dick.
I wish I had time to devote to this sort of thing.
[quote=hmn30;24396127]i don't want my sub to be like zin's, turning into agent smith while sucking on my dick.[/quote] [b]hopefully that will not happen again[/b]
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;24396351][B]hopefully that will not happen again[/B][/QUOTE] Maybe, but you'll always know that your sub was originally smith. just imagine that. unless you go deeper and fuck up your memories. im still wondering if you can do that, i want to.
Jake anything interesting from your nap?
Could I LD and ask my sub why I all ways feel sick during storms?
Well nothing lucid [editline]04:47PM[/editline] It was pretty cool for me but I wasn't lucid in it so
holy shit not only did the sammich taste nice, but guys... i fucking flew, it felt like i was actually flying, i could feel the wind in my face and i could hear the birds right next to me, but then i started to fall, immediately i got scared, i was about to hit the ground but then i woke up, it felt too weird, but i enjoyed it
[QUOTE=solid_jakeV2;24394644]If your subconscious doesn't think you can handle yourself in a dream, why would it want to grant you lucidity?[/QUOTE] if my subconscious mind wants to deny me things then I will fuck it up, i'm not about to take that shit from myself of all people
[QUOTE=TheHydra;24396593]if my subconscious mind wants to deny me things then I will fuck it up, i'm not about to take that shit from myself of all people[/QUOTE] are you suicidial. Zin tried shooting his sub and it fucking scared the living shit out him to the point where he woke up. Why would you want to fuck with your subconscious [editline]04:50PM[/editline] No pun intended
[QUOTE=solid_jakeV2;24396635]are you suicidial. Zin tried shooting his sub and it fucking scared the living shit out him to the point where he woke up. Why would you want to fuck with your subconscious [editline]04:50PM[/editline] No pun intended[/QUOTE] i don't take shit from anyone not even myself ~nomercy~
Something confuses me. When someone on fp says something about a dream, people come and say "it means nothing, it means that it was just a dream", when clearly, there's so much more to them than 'just dreams'
And then suddenly you engage in fist combat and it knows exactly what you're going to do and fucks you up and then you land a succesful hit and it starts screaming ear bleeding noise and shows you how small you really are [editline]04:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hmn30;24396670]Something confuses me. When someone on fp says something about a dream, people come and say "it means nothing, it means that it was just a dream", when clearly, there's so much more to them than 'just dreams'[/QUOTE] Illiterates. [editline]04:53PM[/editline] I want to play chess with my sub [editline]04:53PM[/editline] I am so fucked
how small I am? motherfucker my subconscious mind is as small as I am, we are the same goddamned person if it wants to make a fool out of me then it will make a fool out of itself by proxy
let's go back to what zin said. Your subconscious is like god in your dream, and your sub being jesus. You fuck with jesus god is gonna throw you into exile
but that would mean I am god
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