The Worst Thing You Have Ever Heard Someone Say About Music V2 - General

[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;28530409][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRwIzQlly0Q[/media] Go old school.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSbZidsgMfw[/media] I think the new school has a lot of promise, people like Wale J.Cole, OFWGKTA, and the other members of the class of 2010

"I'm a metalhead, I listen to Bullet For My Valenshit" GET FUCKED and listen to some Anthrax or Slayer!

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;28530554][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSbZidsgMfw[/media] I think the new school has a lot of promise, people like Wale J.Cole, OFWGKTA, and the other members of the class of 2010[/QUOTE] People like the poster on the previous page just think that whatever's in the charts represents all of the genre. I agree with you, the new school does show a lot of promise.

[QUOTE=IAreLegend;28530578]"Bullet For My Valenshit"[/QUOTE] :colbert: You don't have to insult a band someone listens to just because you don't think its metal.

The people who go around saying "all music nowadays is shit" need to realise that the music charts (which is usually what they base their assumptions on) is going through an R&B/Hip-hop craze, and it won't last forever. Something new will come along, or something old will experience a comeback, and then there will be a completely different group of people who will say "all music nowadays is shit". I for one am waiting for the comeback of prog rock, where songs in the top-10 are 8 and a half minutes (like Roundabout) :smug:

[QUOTE=CoolCorky;28542694] I for one am waiting for the comeback of prog rock, where songs in the top-10 are 8 and a half minutes (like Roundabout) :smug:[/QUOTE] ew [URL="javascript:FR_InsertTextHelper(%20'vB_Editor_QR_textarea',%20':suicide:'%20);"][IMG]http://cdn.fpcontent.net/fp/emoot/suicide.gif[/IMG][/URL]

Thick as a Brick once hit No1 on the album charts. SOME DAY. PROG ROCK. WILL RISE AGAIN.

fuck that the sex pistols killed prog before, they can do it again get those old cunts back together!

[QUOTE=thisispain;28542814]fuck that the sex pistols killed prog before, they can do it again get those old cunts back together![/QUOTE] Punk movement lasted about 3 years and died in 1980. Prog lasted 8 and quickly sprung up again with the Neo-prog movement. :jerkbag:

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28542830]Punk movement lasted about 3 years and died in 1980. Prog lasted 8 and quickly sprung up again with the Neo-prog movement. :jerkbag:[/QUOTE] pfpfppfpfpfff [img]http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/nevermind_bollocks.jpg[/img] [img]http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/joy%20pleasure.gif[/img] [img]http://991.com/newgallery/PIL-Second-Edition-479570.jpg[/img] [img]http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/5f9286dc6d7c5d5b94739b52bc1a2594/1117.jpg[/img] [img]http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nirvana_nevermind_cover.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.cheekychicago.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kid_a1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.innewmusicwetrust.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Arcade-Fire-The-Suburbs-2010.jpg[/img]

Nirvana is grunge. Radiohead is anything but Punk. Thisispain I think you're just thinking in the wrong time signature.

Radiohead and Arcade Fire are far from punk. Still are you forgetting all the hardcore punk that exploded in the 80s, and all the pop-punk in the 90s, and all those post-punk revival bands like Interpol and Arctic Monkeys that came out all last decade? I'd say punk is a lot more popular than prog nowadays. Popularity doesn't matter anyways, but personally I'd still take punk over prog any day of the week.

you guys aren't thinking this as deep punk isn't a sound sex pistols planted something in joy division, which planted something in pil, which planted something in sonic youth, which planted something in nirvana, which planted something in kid a, which planted something in arcade fire

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;28542903]Radiohead and Arcade Fire are far from punk. Still are you forgetting all the hardcore punk that exploded in the 80s, and all the pop-punk in the 90s, and all those post-punk revival bands like Interpol and Arctic Monkeys that came out all last decade? I'd say punk is a lot more popular than prog nowadays. Popularity doesn't matter anyways, but personally I'd still take punk over prog any day of the week.[/QUOTE] Pop-punk isn't terribly punky. And I thought that hardcore stuff was related to metalcore. I guess I am just ignorant. :frown:

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28542894]Nirvana is grunge.[/QUOTE] yeah ahhah go away

[QUOTE=thisispain;28542929]you guys aren't thinking this as deep punk isn't a sound sex pistols planted something in joy division, which planted something in pil, which planted something in sonic youth, which planted something in nirvana, which planted something in kid a, which planted something in arcade fire[/QUOTE] Well genres are pretty much all defined in sound. Just because a band is influenced by another band doesn't really make it the same genre. Besides, I don't see the Nirvana influence in Kid A.

All 4/4 music is shit i piss such simplistic tunes errday

[QUOTE=thisispain;28542953]yeah ahhah go away[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_%28UK_band%29[/url] Well they could also be a psychadelia band. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_%28band%29[/url] But this here says they're Alternative/Grunge.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28542931] And I thought that hardcore stuff was related to metalcore. [/QUOTE] what anyway what i'm saying is prog as a genre and a sound in itself, not even in the slightest iota was it as influential nor as enduring as punk rock and i'm like 99% that's exactly the point are you telling me all those fancy time signatures and scales they use aren't an attempt to make "high-brow" music

[QUOTE=Contag;28542967]All 4/4 music is shit i piss such simplistic tunes errday[/QUOTE] How insightful.

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;28542966]Well genres are pretty much all defined in sound. Just because a band is influenced by another band doesn't really make it the same genre. Besides, I don't see the Nirvana influence in Kid A.[/QUOTE] Radiohead is considered [I]borderline[/I] progressive in most circles.

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;28542966]Well genres are pretty much all defined in sound. Just because a band is influenced by another band doesn't really make it the same genre. Besides, I don't see the Nirvana influence in Kid A.[/QUOTE] but punk isn't really a genre. it's a thought, a movement if you will. and you don't see the nirvana influence in Kid A? [img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51l2kFk6CnL._SL500_AA300_.jpg[/img] ATTN: album that created the industry divide between indie and mainstream

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28542982]Radiohead is considered [I]borderline[/I] progressive in most circles.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say so at all. Most of their songs have a structure to them with the time signature staying steady most of the time. Plus their longest song is like, 6 minutes. Not very proggy.

[QUOTE=thisispain;28542980]what anyway what i'm saying is prog as a genre and a sound in itself, not even in the slightest iota was it as influential nor as enduring as punk rock and i'm like 99% that's exactly the point are you telling me all those fancy time signatures and scales they use aren't an attempt to make "high-brow" music[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure most progressive musicians used those sorts of scales and time signatures because it sounded fresh and interesting, it brought a new frontier to rock music. It's like saying theres no point in using any key but C, limiting music is for wankers. Besides, Yes was comprised entirely of high-school dropouts, iirc.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28542982]Radiohead is considered [I]borderline[/I] progressive in most circles.[/QUOTE] prog is about the attitude. if we compare them to yes and jethro tull, they were trying to spice up blues music using classical and jazz influence radiohead was trying to make post-punk music with electronic. today more so electronica than anything. unless your understanding of radiohead ends with the bends. which i don't give a toss about anyway so hmph

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;28543001]I wouldn't say so at all. Most of their songs have a structure to them with the time signature staying steady most of the time. Plus their longest song is like, 6 minutes. Not very proggy.[/QUOTE] Length and time signatures aren't the only part of Prog Rock.

[QUOTE=thisispain;28542996]but punk isn't really a genre. it's a thought, a movement if you will. and you don't see the nirvana influence in Kid A?[/QUOTE] Well, punk as sort of a culture I can see in it but punk is a solid genre in music with a definable sound. And I still don't see the Nirvana influence in Kid A. I can see that they both did something radically different (well not as different as Kid A in nirvana's case), but so do a lot of bands all the time since the beginning of music. [editline]11th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Shibbey;28543015]Length and time signatures aren't the only part of Prog Rock.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah I forgot the cool looking pants. Radiohead don't give much attention to their pants. Also like thisispain said above most prog rock bands got a lot of stuff from classical and jazz. Except for a few songs, radiohead as a whole don't have those influences in them. They even said themselves they're not prog. [editline]11th March 2011[/editline] Also prog rock also has a lot of solos and instrumental showing off in it. Radiohead aren't very complex in that way.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28543004]I'm pretty sure most progressive musicians used those sorts of scales and time signatures because it sounded fresh and interesting, it brought a new frontier to rock music. It's like saying theres no point in using any key but C, limiting music is for wankers.[/QUOTE] it's a bit strange to say that considering you are looking purely from a Mar 11, 2011 perspective. there's nothing particularly fresh about playing in 5/8 anymore. either way the idea behind prog is to make high-brow rock music. i don't think you can deny that in any way. plus the sex pistols don't even know what a key is [QUOTE=Shibbey;28543004]Besides, Yes was comprised entirely of high-school dropouts, iirc.[/QUOTE] as if that has anything to do with anything. bloody british schools

[QUOTE=thisispain;28543087]it's a bit strange to say that considering you are looking purely from a Mar 11, 2011 perspective. there's nothing particularly fresh about playing in 5/8 anymore. either way the idea behind prog is to make high-brow rock music. i don't think you can deny that in any way. plus the sex pistols don't even know what a key is[/QUOTE] I was trying to give context during the time period but whatever. Also The Sex Pistols would probably know what a key is.

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;28543040]Well, punk as sort of a culture I can see in it but punk is a solid genre in music with a definable sound. [/QUOTE] yeah but that's dumb where do you start drawing the line exactly? if it gets longer than 3 minutes? [QUOTE=pie_is_good;28543040]And I still don't see the Nirvana influence in Kid A. I can see that they both did something radically different (well not as different as Kid A in nirvana's case), but so do a lot of bands all the time since the beginning of music.[/QUOTE] well i can assure you kid a would sound really different if nirvana never existed but that's prob not a fair thing to say [QUOTE=pie_is_good;28543040]Also like thisispain said above most prog rock bands got a lot of stuff from classical and jazz. Except for a few songs, radiohead as a whole don't have those influences in them. They even said themselves they're not prog. [/QUOTE] prog specifically goes for elevating music. that's the entire reason for it. radiohead certainly does not do that. they are closer to the fuck-off noise of sonic youth than yes [editline]11th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Shibbey;28543104] Also The Sex Pistols would probably know what a key is.[/QUOTE] nope, none of them even knew what a major chord was hell john lydon couldn't even really sing that's exactly what makes punk punk, the fact that you don't give a fuck about anything, just do whatever thom yorke doesn't know the slightest bit about music theory either, said so himself