• Music Genres And Close-Mindedness
    129 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Coffee Shop;23923305]Now for a rant about music genres. I'm pretty annoyed by people who only listen to one type of music ("I only listen to metal bro.") Am I the only one who notices how close-minded most people are when it comes to music? Music is like food; there is food that: a.) tastes good and that you enjoy b.) you only enjoy in certain moods c.) is terrible and should not be enjoyed by anyone, but some will eat anyway d.) tastes good, but you don't really prefer it Small children don't seem to like many foods because they're afraid to enjoy something new, because they aren't used to it, are satisfied with their current tastes, or it may seem strange and alien to them, or a combination of the preceding reasons. Same goes with all people and all music. In my case, I love all kinds of music, whether it be ska, rock, metal (death metal perhaps), rap, pop, jazz, classical, techno, bluegrass, etc. For the sake of yet another food analogy: some Italian food is great, some Italian food is awful. Same goes with rap; Run DMC: Good. Lil Wayne: Garbage. You cheat yourself by enjoying only one type of genre. I wouldn't want to only eat Italian food my whole life, and I would hate to only listen to one type of music for the remainder of my existence. So I ask of you, try to find at least 3 decent artists of every genre that you can enjoy, because like how there is good Italian food and bad Italian food, there is good rap and bad rap, good ska and bad ska, good country and bad country [B](modern country is awful, it's way to poppy. Johnny Cash is legit)[/B], good metal and bad metal, and so on. Also, I apologize for all the food analogies, but hey, relating to people really teaches. I hope these thoughts can help some people broaden their musical tastes, and be a bit more open-minded when it comes to such things.[/QUOTE] I think it's ironic how you talk about being open-minded only to throw out that all modern country is awful just because it's "way too poppy". Sure, modern country may not be what country used to be but everything changes, rock in the 70s wasn't like rock in the 60s and 60s wasn't like 50s rock. The best bet about music is the following : Snoop around and don't settle for what's big and popular, you'll find good music everywhere from bands that might not be famous for a different amount of reasons. [editline]02:28PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Akayz;24051521]The one genre that you need, that you dont have yet.. Is soul.[/QUOTE] Soul is great, I've noticed however that you need to be in a special sort of mood to truly enjoy it though. [editline]02:29PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Maw'D;24043424]OP just made me Go eat some Italian food Btw Agree with the fact that alot of People are very close minded and will not try new things and stereotype certain types of music like metal=Scremo Rap=Cool Pop=Epic Classic Rock=Old Artists over 40=Not Cool Gay artists=Fags which can't make cool music. Older pop=Disco Disco=Afros Hip-Hop=Really Cool. Judas Priest=Btw Nub i herd dat rob halberd is g4y wot a fag col about 80% of my school are complete idiots. who love green day and Paramore.[/QUOTE] Are they idiots because they enjoy green day and paramore or are they idiots for some other reason? [editline]02:34PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Pal13;23986008]Most people who listen exclusively listen to one genre are just immature (musically). I appreciate lots of genres. That's due to the fact that I make music myself. When you create music, you start to appreciate everything you hear. You appreciate it more because you're aware of what was done to make the end product (arranging, performing, songwriting, composing, and engineering). There is no such thing as one style fitting all situations. I don't want to hear death metal when I'm having sex (some do o.o). I don't want to hear underground violent rap when I'm in the club. I don't want to hear jazz or R&B when I'm running on a treadmill. If people think one genre is superior it doesn't mean they're idiots, they're just temporarily dumb (hopefully). It'll take some time for them to broaden their knowledge and appreciate everything else, as with everything in life. The genre I consume the most, so far, is hip-hop. That's the "food" I grew up "eating". And yes, it's true, there are a few - very few - genres that are intolerable.[/QUOTE] Being able to listen to a wide variety of musical genres is essential for you to grow as an artist too, different genres of music does empaphize on different grooves, instrumental arrangements and so on. It's just like languages, you can't become better at your language if you only read one type of books, you need to read all kinds of books to be able to grasp your language. Or to go on with instruments : You can't become a better player if you're only playing on one scale, you need to use all scales to become better at your craft and to be able to write music that's diverse and interesting.
Special mood for soul eh? There must be a name for that. I think different types of music need special types of moods anyway.
Yeah ofcourse, some music works all the time though. :)
I could say that about any genre! Great albums in a specific genre will always be excellent. E.g. Whats Going On album for soul and Freeweelin' album for folk
i can't tolerate a majority of metal because it's overly aggressive with unimaginative lyrics. sure, there are exceptions to this but they're few and far between.
[QUOTE=Enishi;24059387]i can't tolerate a majority of metal because it's overly aggressive with unimaginative lyrics. sure, there are exceptions to this but they're few and far between.[/QUOTE] What do you define as "unimaginative lyrics"? Because if you mean "most metal lyrics are about gore, death, and rape, and it's rare to find metal lyrics that aren't" then I honestly don't know where you're looking. Just off the top of my head, here are some songs and some lyrical snippets: [quote=Scar Symmetry's "Ghost Prototype I: Measurement of Thought"]A law of nature undefined Subtle force we find at play A door to thoughts revealed now Open the gate, step outside the frame Then you will find that your shallow role is but a symptom of thoughts inside Don't say you must play that role to define yourself Now space and time seem to decline See the sky behind the wave Internal worlds reveal how Thoughts can descend like a falling rain[/quote] [quote=Blind Stare's "Central Theory"]Slowly fading image is projected on the surface of the earth Resemble of the past falling under the foundations of a new era What is the achievement of men so great that really makes the difference? At the scale of the universe we are nothing but bare dust Nothing more than dust! Hate is the force that controls human nature Only the facts that can´t be denied are lost Can´t you see that nothing really matters? Can´t you see what you are doing? The difference between real and what we see Hope is worth nothing in this pitiful system! Setting the traps ahead of us wherever we could fall So every conclusion is built on empty basis! World is a reflection of contradictions and is just an illusion[/quote] [quote=Dark Age's "Minus Exitus"]This world grows an old believer Where progress means decay Death as a tempting diva Tomorrow is yesterday Dying for a new reality Who sold it to the ones who sleep? The death of one is no more tragedy Statistics have now taken the lead And we've been searching for ages Pain and Guilt no one able to see That life needs death inside a world so unstable No new belief, rewritten history[/quote] [quote=The Fading's "Angel Within"]Those tears embraced your angel's smile These scary words erased the last denial The door is closed, all hope is gone This faceless world has turned to ice Defenseless soul in weeping eyes Another faith's test to survive Another weakness to defeat To seek comfort under broken wings You think you'll disappear in graceful tears The chase for shreds of joy will not bring color to your face But days will heal your wounded soul Its life - you must adore You'll find a shelter in tomorrow Betray the pain, engrave the sorrow[/quote] So unless you mean something completely different than what I'm considering "unimaginative lyrics," you must not be looking that hard.
My friend says blues sucks because of uncreative lyrics :smith:
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;24060195]My friend says blues sucks because of uncreative lyrics :smith:[/QUOTE] That could be said about any musical genre. Which is obviously false, there are great songwriters in all kind of music and he's being musically oblivious if he thinks blues have uncreative lyrics.
gmod4ever you copy pasted a shit ton of lyrics that don't tell me anything sure it sounds cool but does it really mean anything? no, not really
[QUOTE=Enishi;24061475]gmod4ever you copy pasted a shit ton of lyrics that don't tell me anything sure it sounds cool but does it really mean anything? no, not really[/QUOTE] Who are you to decide
Music segregates people. That is what pisses me off.
[QUOTE=Enishi;24061475]gmod4ever you copy pasted a shit ton of lyrics that don't tell me anything sure it sounds cool but does it really mean anything? no, not really[/QUOTE] Most metal is spoken in metaphor. It may not be completely obvious right away, but it all has a meaning.
[QUOTE=Akayz;24059345]I could say that about any genre! Great albums in a specific genre will always be excellent. E.g. Whats Going On album for soul and Freeweelin' album for folk[/QUOTE] Well, I guess what I'm trying to say that I have to be in a special mood to truly enjoy certain genres. I can't really listen to Jazz if I'm not sort of laid back, I can't listen to funk if I'm not happy etc etc. Sure I can listen to it, but I won't enjoy it as much as I usually do. If you understand what I'm saying.
[QUOTE=Gregah;24061974]Well, I guess what I'm trying to say that I have to be in a special mood to truly enjoy certain genres. I can't really listen to Jazz if I'm not sort of laid back, I can't listen to funk if I'm not happy etc etc. Sure I can listen to it, but I won't enjoy it as much as I usually do. If you understand what I'm saying.[/QUOTE] Sure I do. :smug: Just so's you don't disregard a genre because of that :v:
[QUOTE=mynames2long;24056930]I would say charts stuff[/QUOTE] :frogdowns:
[QUOTE=Gregah;24060259]That could be said about any musical genre. Which is obviously false, there are great songwriters in all kind of music and he's being musically oblivious if he thinks blues have uncreative lyrics.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but Blues isn't even about lyrics.
[QUOTE=Akayz;24062033]Sure I do. :smug: Just so's you don't disregard a genre because of that :v:[/QUOTE] Oh I don't, music is awesome and I try to enjoy it all, there's too little time in this world to be hating music (or to be hating at all to be honest). :)
I only have two things I look for when I listen to music (I'm mostly into electro and prog rock): 1) Are the timbres interesting? Be it synths, guitars, whatever-- does it sound cool? 2) Does it have an enjoyable melody? Can I hum it? That's all I want, really.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;24062626]Yeah, but Blues isn't even about lyrics.[/QUOTE] Well, true that. Still, your friend is retarded :v:
I find myself able to like any genre of music I find to be good. Logically, I don't feel as though I can dislike a genre, I can dislike bands from a certain genre, but I can't just hate the genre unless I've listened to every band from that genre and not liked anything I've heard.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;24061927]Most metal is spoken in metaphor. It may not be completely obvious right away, but it all has a meaning.[/QUOTE] wow you totally didn't just describe every genre ever or anything [editline]01:49PM[/editline] aka no shit
All I mean is that just because you can't see a meaning straight up doesn't mean there isn't one.
[QUOTE=Gregah;24063117]Oh I don't, music is awesome and I try to enjoy it all, there's too little time in this world to be hating music (or to be hating at all to be honest). :)[/QUOTE] If there was a respect rating i would give you one.
You guys have a lot of electronic music to add to the list [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres[/url]
[QUOTE=Enishi;24063850]wow you totally didn't just describe every genre ever or anything [editline]01:49PM[/editline] aka no shit[/QUOTE] I don't even understand the point you're trying to make. "Unimaginative lyrics" is completely subjective and the meaning completely resides with the person writing the lyrics.
[QUOTE=Enishi;24063850]wow you totally didn't just describe every genre ever or anything [editline]01:49PM[/editline] aka no shit[/QUOTE] Just because you don't understand what the lyricist is trying to say doesn't mean the lyrics suck
[QUOTE=Enishi;24061475]gmod4ever you copy pasted a shit ton of lyrics that don't tell me anything sure it sounds cool but does it really mean anything? no, not really[/QUOTE] Wow, you're an idiot if you truly believe that. [editline]02:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Enishi;24063850]wow you totally didn't just describe every genre ever or anything [editline]01:49PM[/editline] aka no shit[/QUOTE] You're an idiot clearly. Lyrics only contain what you see in them, so, you see nothing and the rest of us are pleasantly please with what we get. Stop your bitching.
lol. sorry your music is shallow in meaning. discussing the inevitably of death, heartache, the decay of the world, and breaking conformity. how profound. [editline]05:26PM[/editline] the biggest thing holding the genre back is bad writing [editline]05:31PM[/editline] admittedly, there are exceptions. there always are. but there's not enough to save the genre from generic garbage.
[QUOTE=Enishi;24068273]lol. sorry your music is shallow in meaning. discussing the inevitably of death, heartache, the decay of the world, and breaking conformity. how profound. [editline]05:26PM[/editline] the biggest thing holding the genre back is bad writing [editline]05:31PM[/editline] admittedly, there are exceptions. there always are. but there's not enough to save the genre from generic garbage.[/QUOTE] La Dispute I listened to those guys once they were okay. Would you recommend I listen to much much more.
Music is life. Let it live.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.