[QUOTE=Geikkamir;35975732]If random sounds bashed together is music, doesn't that mean that any random gibberish someone says is technically a song?[/QUOTE]
No. sounds put together with with the intent of it being music, it's music. sounds by themselves, like machines or cars driving by are not music.
music is what you make of it, you listen to what you enjoy.. I for one love skrillex's music and paid to go see one of his shows in Leeds, UK. Even if you don't like his music i would love to say anyone of you who bash him to create the same sounds, music production is an extremely hard thing to do, especially alone.. the learning curve is so much higher than any other instrument; i would know, I'm doing it as an A level.
[QUOTE=Him1411;35975915]music is what you make of it, you listen to what you enjoy.. I for one love skrillex's music and paid to go see one of his shows in Leeds, UK. Even if you don't like his music i would love to say anyone of you who bash him to create the same sounds, music production is an extremely hard thing to do, especially alone.. the learning curve is so much higher than any other instrument; i would know, I'm doing it as an A level.[/QUOTE]
While I can respect your opinion, I always thought that the "WELL LETS SEE YOU DO BETTER" argument was really fucking dumb. The fact that I don't produce music doesn't mean that my criticism is invalid.
[QUOTE=Him1411;35975915]music is what you make of it, you listen to what you enjoy.. I for one love skrillex's music and paid to go see one of his shows in Leeds, UK. Even if you don't like his music i would love to say anyone of you who bash him to create the same sounds, music production is an extremely hard thing to do, especially alone.. the learning curve is so much higher than any other instrument; i would know, I'm doing it as an A level.[/QUOTE]
Finally someone with some common sense. I'm not huge on Skrillex but I don't go out of my way to insult him or his music, in fact if you read interviews he is actually a chill motherfucker with great taste making music for himself that other people happen to listen to. I'm tired of people insulting stuff they subjectively dislike and thinking they're hella cool. Can't you people just appreciate the wonderful things people create for each other, whether you "like" them or not?
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;35973349]I don't think random sounds bashed together like this counts as music.[/QUOTE]
You sound like a parent complaining about their kids listening to death metal or similar.
Every time I see "Skrillex" for some reason I read is as "Skillrex" can't seem to shake it.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;35975895]No. sounds put together with with the intent of it being music, it's music. sounds by themselves, like machines or cars driving by are not music.[/QUOTE]
But skrillex is literally the equivalent of going into a cheap ass synthesizer and tossing in random shit.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;35982781]But skrillex is literally the equivalent of going into a cheap ass synthesizer and tossing in random shit.[/QUOTE]
I don't actually like Skrillex or anything, but you're delusional if you actually believe it's that easy.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;35982781]But skrillex is literally the equivalent of going into a cheap ass synthesizer and tossing in random shit.[/QUOTE]
And Rock is just some guys bashing drums and pulling strings.
[editline]16th May 2012[/editline]
It's not how the music is made, it's what it sounds like.
"but it sounds like shit"
Opinion.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;35982781]But skrillex is literally the equivalent of going into a cheap ass synthesizer and tossing in random shit.[/QUOTE]
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It's actually quite true. Although I can't really take his own music that seriously, he's pretty cool. You can read any interview from him, he's not bad.
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[QUOTE=Geikkamir;35976062]While I can respect your opinion, I always thought that the "WELL LETS SEE YOU DO BETTER" argument was really fucking dumb. The fact that I don't produce music doesn't mean that my criticism is invalid.[/QUOTE]
I think he aimed it more towards the people saying it takes no skill rather than the people who just dislike it.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35967015]This sounds nothing like proper dubstep, it's in a genre of it's own[/QUOTE] I don't even like it lumped in with my "Brostep" music. Although Skrillex popularized that genre, he didn't actually make that kind of music. Although, you guys gotta admit this song is pretty dope.
[editline]17th May 2012[/editline]
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I don't know why there's so much hate. :( haha. I don't love Skrillex or anything like that, but some of his songs aren't really that bad.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;35982781]But skrillex is literally the equivalent of going into a cheap ass synthesizer and tossing in random shit.[/QUOTE]
Yeaaaah, and?
That's a way to make music. I've seen classic rock artists purposely use broken, out of tune guitars and destroyed drums to record their music on.
It's a way to be different. It's just in this case, high pitched squealing noises aren't particularly consumerist friendly.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;35988533]Yeaaaah, and? That's a way to make music. I've seen classic rock artists purposely use broken, out of tune guitars and destroyed drums to record their music on. It's a way to be different. It's just in this case, high pitched squealing noises aren't particularly consumerist friendly.[/QUOTE] Actually it's incredibly "consumerist" friendly. Skrillex is popular because a lot of people really like his music.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;35988577]Actually it's incredibly "consumerist" friendly. Skrillex is popular because a lot of people really like his music.[/QUOTE]
I was under the impression people liked his other songs tbh, not really this, squealing one.
I wasn't saying Skrillex was anti-listener, just this song.
While I absolutely hate everything ****step, the only fact is that what I'm saying is only my opinion.
(And in my opinion Skrillex sounds like a couple of transformers going "hardcore" in my lawn)
[QUOTE=Him1411;35975915]music is what you make of it, you listen to what you enjoy.. I for one love skrillex's music and paid to go see one of his shows in Leeds, UK. Even if you don't like his music i would love to say anyone of you who bash him to create the same sounds, music production is an extremely hard thing to do, especially alone.. the learning curve is so much higher than any other instrument; i would know, I'm doing it as an A level.[/QUOTE]
One doesn't need to be a chef to know that his meal tastes like shit, and what you're saying is somewhat an uneducated opinion, nowhere in hell is using a synth is harder than playing a Bass, guitar, piano, etc.
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;35992622]
One doesn't need to be a chef to know that his meal tastes like shit, and what you're saying is somewhat an uneducated opinion, nowhere in hell is using a synth is harder than playing a Bass, guitar, piano, etc.[/QUOTE]
He's not "using a synthesizer", he's PRODUCING entire SONGS by himself. He does the drums, synths, vocals, everything.
I'm arguing, it's a lot harder to do than learn a single instrument
[editline]17th May 2012[/editline]
Speaking of which, Skrillex is a multi instrumentalist and a singer. He has played in a semifamous band.
[QUOTE=Croix;35994997]He's not "using a synthesizer", he's PRODUCING entire SONGS by himself. He does the drums, synths, vocals, everything.
I'm arguing, it's a lot harder to do than learn a single instrument
[editline]17th May 2012[/editline]
Speaking of which, Skrillex is a multi instrumentalist and a singer. He has played in a semifamous band.[/QUOTE]
Well, that is NOT what you've said in your post, you should word your statements in a more clear, correct way, because the message you've passed is that he was "producing songs" that that "this was way harder than learning any instrument", either he was just producing the songs or he was using Synths. (That is the message you've passed across)
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;35992622]While I absolutely hate everything ****step, the only fact is that what I'm saying is only my opinion.
(And in my opinion Skrillex sounds like a couple of transformers going "hardcore" in my lawn)
One doesn't need to be a chef to know that his meal tastes like shit, and what you're saying is somewhat an uneducated opinion, nowhere in hell is using a synth is harder than playing a Bass, guitar, piano, etc.[/QUOTE]
you're so bad at this arguing thing dude stop
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;35992622]One doesn't need to be a chef to know that his meal tastes like shit, and what you're saying is somewhat an uneducated opinion, nowhere in hell is using a synth is harder than playing a Bass, guitar, piano, etc.[/QUOTE]
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Are you speaking from experience here?
[editline]18th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;35997216]Well, that is NOT what you've said in your post, you should word your statements in a more clear, correct way, because the message you've passed is that he was "producing songs" that that "this was way harder than learning any instrument", either he was just producing the songs or he was using Synths. (That is the message you've passed across)[/QUOTE]
You're wrong too. Producing a song is mixing, mastering, etc. Synths are used as part of the creation process.
Get your shit right before you start telling other people they're wrong.
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;35997216]Well, that is NOT what you've said in your post, you should word your statements in a more clear, correct way, because the message you've passed is that he was "producing songs" that that "this was way harder than learning any instrument", either he was just producing the songs or he was using Synths. (That is the message you've passed across)[/QUOTE]
A simple breakdown for the process of "producing".
1. Idea
2. Composition
3. Creation and organization of sounds(can include, but not limited to synthesizers, sampling, and actual recording)
4. Editing
5. Mixing
6. Mastering
By the way, sometimes you have to repeat these steps. For example, I've known people who go through the mastering phase to find out something is wrong in step 3 or 5, which brings the person back before they have to re-master it.
This isn't incredibly simple. In fact it's a pretty stressful process that can make some people hate the idea of making music. It can involve hours of just listening, just to have your ears get tired so you need to take a break and spend a few more hours listening the next day.
I won't say it's easier or harder than playing an instrument in a band, but it's no less deserving of your respect. If only because these people put A LOT of work into their art.
This was pretty much my reaction.
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As much as I dislike Skrillex. I still respect it as music.
Read his interviews, he seems like a pretty cool guy. Plus he's a huge fan of Aphex Twin
[QUOTE=simzboy;35999820]As much as I dislike Skrillex. I still respect it as music.[/QUOTE]
He makes most of his music in hotels and in cars. He's rich as fuck and he still makes music with the same equipment I do. (excluding his shows, of course)
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