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If he isn't past his twenties yet it can be possible with growspurts, but it's still a ridiculous amount indeed. Bulking isn't necessarily bad, it also depends on how you bulk 'dirty' or 'clean' as explained in your article; low contents of fat. My bulk last year I did gain some fat, but not too much. My abs were still very visible for example. If you gain 25 pounds it most likely is fats and fluids. Especially fluids, fluids can build around muscles very well still giving clear definition but a very bloated look. My friend once used creatine and for the cycle he took it his muscles were bloated like hell. Still with good definition, but dayuuum.
Back/Bieceps today! Anyone else consider that their favorite?
Back/Bis are my second favorite. Chest day is best considering it's my fav. bodypart.
Having a partner who can't always be there makes chest hell :-(
[QUOTE=Maucer;27669256]He was around (at least) 20. He said that the best gains ever he had at that time was in army, which he began when he was 18. At 19 and had already won Mr Europe junior and Mr Europe and he won the strongman when he was 20. Competition Weight: 240 lbs (top 250 lbs) Off Season Weight: 260 lbs Over 25 pounds of dry muscle is just ridiculous.[/QUOTE] that info is clearly wrong about his weight, even frank Zane would bulk 35 pounds and his competition weight was 180-185 have you ever seen a video of arnold off season? wayyyy less defined, much more fat even look up pictures of ronnie coleman, you may not believe this but bodybuilders most of the time say lies about their weight, size, etc. to make their muscles seem bigger and make them seem less fat during offseason just look at some pictures and you'll see what I mean [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=WhackChack;27669639]Back/Bieceps today! Anyone else consider that their favorite?[/QUOTE] definitely my favourite [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=WhackChack;27669767]Having a partner who can't always be there makes chest hell :-([/QUOTE] just don`t go to complete failure, when you don`t have a partner, just try and do higher reps and a bit lower weight especially with bench
Every time I do weigh excercises, I worry about only one thing: why do my muscles never hurt?? I remember when I went to gym, I was always so terribly sore the next day I could barely move, but now even though I use heavier weighs/harder excercises in many cases I never get sore unless I manage to pull some muscle. Had the shoulders triceps chest abs today, feeling completely powerless and my arms want to fall off, but no pain except in my upper back where I MAY have pulled something small again.
Chest and shoulders today. Should I throw in push ups, in my chest routine? Are they useful at all?
Here's how my routine goes.. Mind you, my dad's a professional bodybuilder, been doing it for well over 20 years so it's his routine and I just follow it. Monday: Bi's/Tri's Tuesday: Chest Wednesday: Back Thursday: Shoulders/Traps Friday: Legs (Maybe also abdominals.. I'm really lean right now, so I don't need to.)
Looks fine, but I'd rather try to combine some musclegroups with eachother to avoid too many isolations in your training. My schedule looks like this: Monday: Chest+Shoulders Wednesday: Lower/Upperback+Biceps Friday: Chest+Triceps (I have an extra chest day to put a little more definition on my chest, I also vary with decline, incline, barbell- and dumbell press on said chest days) Sunday: Legs+Traps (My most favourite training day, I love to train legs) And I spent two other days for Muay Thai.
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27672378]Every time I do weigh excercises, I worry about only one thing: why do my muscles never hurt?? I remember when I went to gym, I was always so terribly sore the next day I could barely move, but now even though I use heavier weighs/harder excercises in many cases I never get sore unless I manage to pull some muscle. Had the shoulders triceps chest abs today, feeling completely powerless and my arms want to fall off, but no pain except in my upper back where I MAY have pulled something small again.[/QUOTE] Your muscles simply got used to the exercises and motions that you do during them. Soreness isn't an indicator of a good workout. As long as you are growing, you're good.
[QUOTE=Bftony;27673563]Looks fine, but I'd rather try to combine some musclegroups with eachother to avoid too many isolations in your training. My schedule looks like this: Monday: Chest+Shoulders Wednesday: Lower/Upperback+Biceps Friday: Chest+Triceps (I have an extra chest day to put a little more definition on my chest, I also vary with decline, incline, barbell- and dumbell press on said chest days) Sunday: Legs+Traps (My most favourite training day, I love to train legs) And I spent two other days for Muay Thai.[/QUOTE] Chestx2? are you doing Heavy/easy or anything like that?
Just heavy lifting with variation between both days. Normally you don't need an extra chest day though. It also works out just fine because of the compounds in there.
[QUOTE=Bftony;27673990]Just heavy lifting with variation between both days. Normally you don't need an extra chest day though. It also works out just fine because of the compounds in there.[/QUOTE] And it ain't effecting your recovery? I, for example, after a session of chest will be shitting bricks because that piece of shit is that sore. But again, that's just me. From my long experience I've learned that progressive, simple compound exercises.
No trouble so far, doing this routine for a few months now. I normally am already recovered when I start the next chest day since there are atleast three days in between them.
Anyone have a good idea for a triceps exercise? Currently doing [url=http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/DBLyingTriExt.html]this[/url] and bench presses, but I don't like the lying triceps extension.
Skullcrushes; which are basically the same as in that picture but then with a barbell and you stop just above your head, rope pull downs, dips, maybe some regular extensions.
[QUOTE=Bftony;27674334]Skullcrushes; which are basically the same as in that picture but then with a barbell and you stop just above your head, rope pull downs, dips, maybe some regular extensions.[/QUOTE] Skull Crushers is a great mass builder by the way, if done in a certain form. Yet, I don't recommend going crazy amounts on it like I did - elbows burns like hell on earth. Pain will happen.
Indeed, it can be very hard to maintain proper form when lifting heavy. About your elbow pain, do you completely stretch out your arms? Because if you do, you should try to maintain a slight bend in your arms to avoid things like that. I draw a quick sketch as example, not 100% accurate but just to give you an idea: [img]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4220/semigoodexample.png[/img] Completely straight, like displayed on the left, can be bad for your joints and tendons.
Want to do skullcrushers without putting deadly stress and tension on your elbows? Ask the super delicious Scott Herman [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_KZxkY_0cM[/media]
[QUOTE=AnemoneS2;27672718]Chest and shoulders today. Should I throw in push ups, in my chest routine? Are they useful at all?[/QUOTE] not really when compared to bench press and such, but I just do them at the end of my chest day just as a burnout [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=iJeax;27673052]Here's how my routine goes.. Mind you, my dad's a professional bodybuilder, been doing it for well over 20 years so it's his routine and I just follow it. Monday: Bi's/Tri's Tuesday: Chest Wednesday: Back Thursday: Shoulders/Traps Friday: Legs (Maybe also abdominals.. I'm really lean right now, so I don't need to.)[/QUOTE] This is a great routine, there is a reason why your dad does this, and so do many professional bodybuilders. Oh and I do it too except on different days lol [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Major Helper;27672378]Every time I do weigh excercises, I worry about only one thing: why do my muscles never hurt?? I remember when I went to gym, I was always so terribly sore the next day I could barely move, but now even though I use heavier weighs/harder excercises in many cases I never get sore unless I manage to pull some muscle. Had the shoulders triceps chest abs today, feeling completely powerless and my arms want to fall off, but no pain except in my upper back where I MAY have pulled something small again.[/QUOTE] pain isn`t really an indicator of how good your workout is, it`s just the lactic acid, but if it used to hurt and then now doesn`t then maybe you should switch it up?
[QUOTE=Bftony;27675170]Indeed, it can be very hard to maintain proper form when lifting heavy. About your elbow pain, do you completely stretch out your arms? Because if you do, you should try to maintain a slight bend in your arms to avoid things like that. I draw a quick sketch as example, not 100% accurate but just to give you an idea: [img_thumb]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4220/semigoodexample.png[/img_thumb] Completely straight, like displayed on the left, can be bad for your joints and tendons.[/QUOTE] Even if try my hardest, I couldn't keep my arms straight like that, that's some heavy shit I'm picking up. So automatically I bend my elbows to make the weight eaiser to handle. Also, by using logic, the weight must be something I can rep for a minimum of 15-20 reps to be able to straight-arm the whole set. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=VQ35HR;27676489]not really when compared to bench press and such, but I just do them at the end of my chest day just as a burnout [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] This is a great routine, there is a reason why your dad does this, and so do many professional bodybuilders. Oh and I do it too except on different days lol [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] pain isn`t really an indicator of how good your workout is, it`s just the lactic acid, but if it used to hurt and then now doesn`t then maybe you should switch it up?[/QUOTE] who taught you that, buddy? Doesn't make sense, at least from what I figured. When you take a set to failure, what makes you tell when it's time to fail? Is it the burn sensation or tiredness in your muscles? Am I right? Now, that's lactic acid. Then how come it doesn't keep burning even after you're done working out, and yet by the next day you ache like a hobo who made a deal with a loan shark? The answer isn't quite something science holds the ultimate truth about. It's a mixture of opinions. One last thing, I suggest he sticks to his routine. Unless, he does not consider himself a novice anymore, and the issue is indeed routine adaptation related. As much as I appreciate you buddy, most of the problems people experience is about 5% program related. So many factors to consider.
[QUOTE=Seith;27676756]Even if try my hardest, I couldn't keep my arms straight like that, that's some heavy shit I'm picking up. So automatically I bend my elbows to make the weight eaiser to handle. Also, by using logic, the weight must be something I can rep for a minimum of 15-20 reps to be able to straight-arm the whole set. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] who taught you that, buddy? Doesn't make sense, at least from what I figured. When you take a set to failure, what makes you tell when it's time to fail? Is it the burn sensation or tiredness in your muscles? Am I right? Now, that's lactic acid. Then how come it doesn't keep burning even after you're done working out, and yet by the next day you ache like a hobo who made a deal with a loan shark? The answer isn't quite something science holds the ultimate truth about. It's a mixture of opinions. One last thing, I suggest he sticks to his routine. Unless, he does not consider himself a novice anymore, and the issue is indeed routine adaptation related. As much as I appreciate you buddy, most of the problems people experience is about 5% program related. So many factors to consider.[/QUOTE] Sometimes it hurts the next day after a good workout, sometimes it doesn't. The day after pain is not a reliable indication of a good workout or not. And I didn't say anything about switching his routine, by switch it up I meant switch up the exercises. Everyone knows you should constantly be switching exercises to keep your muscles guessing.
Also, I request for the top three bodybuilding exercises to be changed to: Standing olympic bar curls Preacher curls Dumbell curls tia
tia? Also, I did back, bi's, fores today. I got a really big pump after and shit was super tight.
Just got done with Bi's+Tri's. When I flex it feels like my arm is going to pop.
Leg day today, some guy took the squat rack when I got there so a buddy of mine recommended something new for me to try out. Basically it involves you standing on a half-ball (upside down of course, so the hard part is upwards) and standing on it, then taking a barbell and bring it over your head, elbows locked, and doing squats with it. Worked up quite a sweat for me. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Binsky;27680740] shit was super tight.[/QUOTE] oh god what
[QUOTE=SteeleCratos;27681254]oh god what[/QUOTE] Oh you know... ;)
[QUOTE=Soulbrother;27681240]Just got done with Bi's+Tri's. When I flex it feels like my arm is going to pop.[/QUOTE] I did bis tris and forearms today, shit was cash got a craaaazy pump by the end [editline]27th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Binsky;27682391]Oh you know... ;)[/QUOTE] daaayum [editline]27th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SteeleCratos;27681254]Leg day today, some guy took the squat rack when I got there so a buddy of mine recommended something new for me to try out. Basically it involves you standing on a half-ball (upside down of course, so the hard part is upwards) and standing on it, then taking a barbell and bring it over your head, elbows locked, and doing squats with it. Worked up quite a sweat for me. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] oh god what[/QUOTE] yeah I`ve seen people do that before, don`t think it does that much for muscle growth though
[QUOTE=WhackChack;27669639]Back/Bieceps today! Anyone else consider that their favorite?[/QUOTE] They're my least favorite. None of my favorite exercises are back exercises. I like chest and legs more, deadlift, Romanian deadlift, squats and bench press are some of my favorite exercises. [QUOTE=sp00ks;27674190]Anyone have a good idea for a triceps exercise? Currently doing [url=http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/DBLyingTriExt.html]this[/url] and bench presses, but I don't like the lying triceps extension.[/QUOTE] Do close grip bench press and skull crushers. Those are excellent triceps builders.
Mannn. I've been sick these past few days. But I decided to work out anyway. I worked at like 80% efficiency, but in the end I'm glad I did it. Hope to be better in time for legs tomorrow.
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