[QUOTE=CheeserCrice;25129320]This thread is extremely optmistic.[/QUOTE]
I guess we need a Gay Corner.
you don't have to buy weights if you don't have money. I'm poor as shit and I use 10lb bricks in bags. I put about 5 of them in a sturdy pack and go walk 6 miles or so.
[QUOTE=Amplar;25130464]you don't have to buy weights if you don't have money. I'm poor as shit and I use 10lb bricks in bags. I put about 5 of them in a sturdy pack and go walk 6 miles or so.[/QUOTE]
So you train your legs with that. What do you do for the rest of you body?
I'm actually planning to play around with "functional" training bullshit for a while. I'm going to do sprints and hill sprints to develop legs, lots of weighted pullups, dips etc, heaving rocks, etc etc. Since I actually know that "functional" training is a load of shit, I'm mainly just doing this as an excuse to A)put on some weight and then when my boxing coach says "you been doing fuckin weights again?!" , I can be smug and say "nah coach, just some old school heavyweight training, been swimming and sprinting hills yknow" B) mainly just to see how hill sprints compare with squats for leg development. Since I'm having a really hard time getting regular access to a squat rack.
I've read from many people that sprints are great for leg development, especially hamstrings, which many lifters have imbalanced compared to their quad development.
Speaking on "functional" training though, that has to be the most ANNOYING concept in the fitness world. Because really, functional for WHAT. If you're a bodybuilder, and you're training to add an inch to your biceps to bring them up in time for a show, then bicep curls and preacher curls and that shit are FUNCTIONAL. If you're a powerlifter and you've got a meet coming up, you want to set a new PR for your bench, then the bench press is FUNCTIONAL.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25131401]mainly just to see how hill sprints compare with squats for leg development. [B]Since I'm having a really hard time getting regular access to a squat rack. [/B]
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If you go to a school you will have access. If not you could probably go lift at your old highschool's gym if you were on any of the sport teams since the coaches will be chill with it.
I'm fat, I don't like exercise much, I get tired to fast but I usually have to carry a lot of weight on my back so I'm losing weight.
I wanna train the upper part of my body, I'm already starting to work out for this summer. For my belly I'm doing sit-ups and for my arms push-ups, but I was wondering if you had some advice for me on how to do those most effectively or other exercises that are more effective. I don't have weights or other training material.
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Oh yeah, I'm not fat or anything, I have quite muscular looking body.
[QUOTE=Seppe;25131862]I wanna train the upper part of my body, I'm already starting to work out for this summer. For my belly I'm doing sit-ups and for my arms push-ups, but I was wondering if you had some advice for me on how to do those most effectively or other exercises that are more effective. I don't have weights or other training material.
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Oh yeah, I'm not fat or anything, I have quite muscular looking body.[/QUOTE]
Do variations, such as decline pushups by putting your feet up on your couch and your hands still on the floor, wide stance pushups, clap pushups, do the plank, dips by putting your hands on a chair or something, there`s tons of things to do.
1RMs
Deadlift: no idea, never done them, maybe my bodyweight plus 88 lbs <.<
Bench: 88lbs, maybe a little more, been so long I can't remember properly
Squats: Never done these, maybe own weight plus 66lbs. My shoulders don't really like the grip.
Bodyweight: 265lbs
Lenght: 6'2"
How long you've been working out: Last time I went to gym was over 3 years ago. Went there for 1,5 years, never achieved anything notable for anything else, except stomach and calves, which gained strength (1RM for stomach was 232lbs, don't know max for calves, but did 2 workouts of 10 with 198lbs).
Why you workout: Hoping to shake off the exess fat and gain muscle to help balance incase future trouble with sight.
Now, to make the questions a bit easier for me to answer:
Pushups: none, can lift myself off the floor but that's it, can't get past 90 degree angle. Can do maybe 10 women's pushups max, realistically far less. Always had extremely weak arms and chest.
Situps: Don't really know at the moment, maybe 30 or so. At the best I've been able to do 150 in a row, which was 5 years ago, when I REALLY had to get better middlebody strength. Went from 10 to 150 situps in three months.
Pull-ups: none, can't do anything except hang there. With the machine I can do maybe 110lbs
Overall: Fairly pleased with my leg strength (which is sad) and stomach (even sadder). went on jogs with 28lbs backpack this spring/summer before it got too hot to do anything but melt. Ran uphills and otherwise walked briskly, 30 mins total. Calves took nice shape, now I've lost them again. Awful overall fitness, my record for the Cooper's test (get as far as possible in 12mins) is about 1600 meters, which is thankfully better than the 1000 I managed about 7 years ago.
*reminisces the past*
Oh well.
I've played badminton and table tennis for three years now, stopped with them aswell because of the holiday, thinking of starting up with table tennis again (badminton won't do because of bad schedule *makes up excuses even though lvoes badminton*) and feeling kinda starved of anything to do except sit beside the computer. Won't go to gym to embarrase self (at least not now, motivation 0 for anything with the first year of university going and not wanting to spend money on useless stuff which achieved nothing before).
*rambles on*
Now why am I saying all this, don't know really, maybe I just want to tell you what a pathetic wretch I am with my inconsistent practice.
Pardon me for any spelling errors, my fingers are freezing off.
*flees into the hole where I came from, waits for any reaction, sympathy, ideas, etc.*
EDIT: Oh yeah, before I forget, it's unfortunate that I'm a lazy slob, because I have REAL potential to have a pretty impressive body and fitness, for I can get to 210 pulse rate (which, as far as I know, is a good thing since it indicates a good heart for fitness) and I have good body shape (even though I'm fat, my waist is fairly slim and if I had no excess lard, I'd probably looks like some professional swimmer because of my body proportions).
some really sad dudes ITT
*insert reaction, sympathy, ideas, etc.*
But seriously, have you been eating healthy? If your main problem is that you're overweight, nutrition plays a huge part.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25131936]Do variations, such as decline pushups by putting your feet up on your couch and your hands still on the floor, wide stance pushups, clap pushups, do the plank, dips by putting your hands on a chair or something, there`s tons of things to do.[/QUOTE]
this. never let your body get used to the workout. once you feel like you're used to the workout you'll stop gaining muscle. always constantly switch it up. even if it means doing the workout backwards, do it. variation keeps muscle building. once you stop challenging yourself, you stop growing and stop getting stronger
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[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25132865]*insert reaction, sympathy, ideas, etc.*
But seriously, have you been eating healthy? If your main problem is that you're overweight, nutrition plays a huge part.[/QUOTE]
nutrition is often more important then exercise itself. after my knee surgery I lost 35 lbs by just lifting weights and eating right. I've added atleast 10 lbs back, all muscle. Nutrition baby.
Well, I never eat junk food (McDonalds, Pizza, etc.), but I never eat vegetables eithers. Just plain bread (rye or or other "healthy" type, no wheat or such), cheese, ham, margarine, fat-free milk, water. Peasoup or something from minced meat (bolognese or such) once or twice a week. Canned tuna more seldomly, spam even less. A chocolate bar once a week (friday). Maybe 1-3 meals a week at university.
That diet is now that I'm living alone.
Before it was all the same except mom's foods had a little more variety plus I ate some salad and maybe cucumber.
[QUOTE=Pandamox;25104030]One thing that makes me rage is when my friends try to lose weight so their muscles are more defined, and they refuse to jog on the streets because they're embarrassed. I don't see what's so embarrassing about getting in shape? I don't see anyone driving by someone jogging and go "HAHA FAGGOT YOU'RE GAY FOR GETTING IN SHAPE"[/QUOTE]
Actually I do that :riker:
also, for those people who are really overweight/obese, don't start jogging for fitness. you're just gonna fuck your joints up. start swimming or riding a bicycle. you'll lose weight a lot faster (swimming is much more intensive being that it's aerobic and works your muscles at the same time) and you won't have any arthritis as you get older
Can't really go swim, my skin and eyes react badly with the chlorine/ozone/whatever they use. No bike nor a place to stash it into nor any experince on how to maintain one, so that's out too. My joints are already fucked up (overextending etc.), so is walking+running with weights really that bad for me (I know, I know, it's even worse for me than the average joe). Guess I'm outta options.
*cries self to sleep*
or not
[QUOTE=Major Helper;25134902]Can't really go swim, my skin and eyes react badly with the chlorine/ozone/whatever they use. No bike nor a place to stash it into nor any experince on how to maintain one, so that's out too. My joints are already fucked up (overextending etc.), so is walking+running with weights really that bad for me (I know, I know, it's even worse for me than the average joe). Guess I'm outta options.
*cries self to sleep*
or not[/QUOTE]
Well the more muscles you have, the more calories you need. So if you grow some muscles and eat less at the same time, you'll lose weight. But you really have to eat right.
[QUOTE=Major Helper;25134902]Can't really go swim, my skin and eyes react badly with the chlorine/ozone/whatever they use. No bike nor a place to stash it into nor any experince on how to maintain one, so that's out too. My joints are already fucked up (overextending etc.), so is walking+running with weights really that bad for me (I know, I know, it's even worse for me than the average joe). Guess I'm outta options.
*cries self to sleep*
or not[/QUOTE]
Or maybe you should stop being a pussy, if you are posting you obviously have some sort of motivation to get into shape so you should stop whining like a little girl about physical discomfort if you are serious about getting in shape.
When I first start lifting, I was in constant pain for the first month, I was horribly out of shape. Even after I got used to the heavy lifting, I went home sore nearly every day. Its taken almost a year to reach the point where I don't feel sore and tired after every work out.
A few months ago, I did a squat cycle called the Smolov where my legs hurt so bad that it was almost impossible to climb a set of stairs. Some days I'd cling to the railing in stairwells if no one was looking and basically drag myself up using my upper body because my legs hurt so bad. Do you have any idea how much it hurts to over-train your QUADS? You don't realize how much you use them till they hurt like a bitch.
If you got physical issues, see your doctor about working around them as you get in shape. You yourself admitted have potential to be athletic and strong so you are fucking [B]yourself[/B] over by wasting that potential, especially when you WANT to be in shape.
Stop making excuses and start getting results.
I'm taking 20 grams of Whey Protein before work out, and another 20 grams after work out. Am I doing it right?
How long until I can see results? Sometimes I don't know if my arm has always been big, or just got big from training. It's like growing, you never notice it. Because it's so slow.
Anyway, could somebody post an awesome routine for monday to friday?
[QUOTE=StormHammer;25138189]Or maybe you should stop being a pussy, if you are posting you obviously have some sort of motivation to get into shape so you should stop whining like a little girl about physical discomfort if you are serious about getting in shape.
When I first start lifting, I was in constant pain for the first month, I was horribly out of shape. Even after I got used to the heavy lifting, I went home sore nearly every day. Its taken almost a year to reach the point where I don't feel sore and tired after every work out.
A few months ago, I did a squat cycle called the Smolov where my legs hurt so bad that it was almost impossible to climb a set of stairs. Some days I'd cling to the railing in stairwells if no one was looking and basically drag myself up using my upper body because my legs hurt so bad. Do you have any idea how much it hurts to over-train your QUADS? You don't realize how much you use them till they hurt like a bitch.
If you got physical issues, see your doctor about working around them as you get in shape. You yourself admitted have potential to be athletic and strong so you are fucking [B]yourself[/B] over by wasting that potential, especially when you WANT to be in shape.
Stop making excuses and start getting results.[/QUOTE]
Dude, if the pain just "went away" after a year then your body just got used to the workouts and you need to switch it up. After a year of working out I still switch things up and I did a new triceps thing 2 days ago and they're still sore as fuck. And squats is a totally different story. If you're not hurting after squats for at least a day, then you're not doing them enough/right.
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[QUOTE=AnemoneS2;25138364]I'm taking 20 grams of Whey Protein before work out, and another 20 grams after work out. Am I doing it right?
How long until I can see results? Sometimes I don't know if my arm has always been big, or just got big from training. It's like growing, you never notice it. Because it's so slow.
Anyway, could somebody post an awesome routine for monday to friday?[/QUOTE]
Depends how hard you're working out, and how well you're eating other than the protein. You can eat 150g of protein a day and not get any muscle if you're not eating right the rest of the day. Also, your arms can only get so big from working out, what I mean is, when you are a certain weight, your arm cannot get bigger than a certain size without supplements other than protein. So for example, if you're 140 you arms can't be bigger than 13 or something like that ( not exact numbers )unless you are working them out extremely hard and more than any muscle group and very frequently.
[QUOTE]Depends how hard you're working out, and how well you're eating other than the protein. You can eat 150g of protein a day and not get any muscle if you're not eating right the rest of the day. Also, your arms can only get so big from working out, what I mean is, when you are a certain weight, your arm cannot get bigger than a certain size without supplements other than protein. So for example, if you're 140 you arms can't be bigger than 13 or something like that ( not exact numbers )unless you are working them out extremely hard and more than any muscle group and very frequently.[/QUOTE]I spent 3 hours at Gym today to do a full body work out. As usual - from Monday to Friday. What is better isolated work outs, or full body ones?
But usually I do four sets, and 15-20 repetitions of every exercise. My "instructor" is an asshole and only spends time flirting with females. So I have a dull repetitive routine.
I'm only 125 pounds though, and 5.2 feet tall. 19 years old. I'm pretty new to the Gym, just one month.
However I have been swimming for 5 months, three times a week. My appearence did not change much, but my heart definitely got stronger.
[B]I avoid benching due to unknown pain in my back, I do not choose excessive weight like others, but enough weight that it is hard for me.
[/B][QUOTE]You can eat 150g of protein a day and not get any muscle if you're not eating right the rest of the day[/QUOTE]
I eat two eggs in the morning. Just before Gym, I eat my 20 Grams of Protein shake. After Gym, I eat beef, or chicken. And another 20 Grams of protein. These things are expensive, so I thought I'd eat small portions along other food.
The real challenge is to find a way to body buold without looking like a d-bag
Isometrics will usually accomplish that, chap.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25123132]I don't know how you are going to apparently mange to use 10,20,30 pound dumbbells your whole life, you will outgrow them after you're done the program, really you'll only be able to use them for shoulders. 400 bucks is a lot, why not get a gym membership?[/QUOTE]
There are tons of hard exercises I've done in the P90x videos where 20 pounds is pushing it. I doubt you'll ever outgrow the need for them if you include dumbbells in most of your workouts, because some areas of the body don't require heavy weights to efficiently work out. Not to mention, not everyone is trying to progressively bulk up. I'd say 10 pounds you may outgrow, but 20 and 30s are playing it fairly safe. I doubt you'll be using dumbbells that weigh more then 30 pounds for every single exercise you do, unless your fucking ripped, or if your not doing a full body workout. In the videos they even recommend 10's for some exercises, and these people have done the workout multiple times. I'm not saying you should only get 10-30's, but it doesn't hurt. For the average guy, it should last for a long while, especially for those trying to include all the muscle groups into a routine. Unless you have specific goals to bulk up and you understand that you'll be needing 50+ dumbbells soon, I don't think picking them up is a waste of money.
I found it to be a worthy investment.. I'm glad I paid for them because it's gotten me so much more motivated to actually work out, and get knowledgeable about my body. You can achieve the same results at a gym, but this is just my experience and what's helped me. I don't want someone getting the impression not to buy some dumbbells if they are just starting out - they'll last for long enough.
[QUOTE=xxdeadb0ltxx;25141503]There are tons of hard exercises I've done in the P90x videos where 20 pounds is pushing it. I doubt you'll ever outgrow the need for them if you include dumbbells in most of your workouts, because some areas of the body don't require heavy weights to efficiently work out. Not to mention, not everyone is trying to progressively bulk up. I'd say 10 pounds you may outgrow, but 20 and 30s are playing it fairly safe. I doubt you'll be using dumbbells that weigh more then 30 pounds for every single exercise you do, unless your fucking ripped, or if your not doing a full body workout. In the videos they even recommend 10's for some exercises, and these people have done the workout multiple times.
Sure, if you have a very great routine and your committed to working out for years, you might outgrow 30 pound dumbbells, depending on what your trying to achieve. But for the average guy, it should last for a long while, especially for those trying to include all the muscle groups into a routine. Unless you have specific goals to bulk up and you understand that you'll be needing 50+ dumbbells soon, I don't think picking them up is a waste of money.
Just saying, I found it to be a worthy investment. I'm glad I paid to buy them because it's gotten me so much more motivated to actually work out, and get knowledgeable about my body. You can achieve the same results at a gym, but this is just my experience and what's helped me.[/QUOTE]
Oh no you misunderstood me. Sure the weights are good for p90x but that's about it. Because it's a high endurance program. Nothing wrong with that, I've heard good things about it, it's just if you start working out after using p90x and paying 150 for dumbbells, you will outgrow them fast. Out of every single exercise I do, I can only think of one where I could actually use 20/30 pound dumbbells, and it's shoulder flys. Everything else is way over 30.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25141718]Oh no you misunderstood me. Sure the weights are good for p90x but that's about it. Because it's a high endurance program. Nothing wrong with that, I've heard good things about it, it's just if you start working out after using p90x and paying 150 for dumbbells, you will outgrow them fast. Out of every single exercise I do, I can only think of one where I could actually use 20/30 pound dumbbells, and it's shoulder flys. Everything else is way over 30.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I guess it all comes down to what your trying to achieve. I can see myself doing the high endurance routine for quite awhile, because it's getting me the results I want. But if I was more interested in doing max reps, benching, squats, and all the higher-weight activities, then a gym would be a must. All that equipment would get expensive, and you'd certainly need more then 10-30's haha.
I think the range of weights they use in the P90x is 10-50. Anything higher and you'd get too tired/worn out to keep going. I guess I'm just trying to say that for the average guy (like me) that doesn't work out often, P90x is a great way to get into shape fast, so to those looking into it - it's worth a shot :)
[QUOTE=xxdeadb0ltxx;25141928]Yeah, I guess it all comes down to what your trying to achieve. I can see myself doing the high endurance routine for quite awhile, because it's getting me the results I want. But if I was more interested in doing max reps, benching, squats, and all the higher-weight activities, then a gym would be a must. All that equipment would get expensive, and you'd certainly need more then 10-30's haha.
I think the range of weights they use in the P90x is 10-50. Anything higher and you'd get too tired/worn out to keep going. I guess I'm just trying to say that for the average guy (like me) that doesn't work out often, P90x is a great way to get into shape fast, so to those looking into it - it's worth a shot :)[/QUOTE]
What do the main exercsises consist of? Just wondering.
Whenever I go to the gym, I coat my self in a bit of butter for shine, and grunt and groan as i do exercises.
Whenever I see a female, I say something sexist, and then ask if they want to have sex with me.
I am the alpha male.
[QUOTE=AnemoneS2;25138364]I'm taking 20 grams of Whey Protein before work out, and another 20 grams after work out. Am I doing it right?
How long until I can see results? Sometimes I don't know if my arm has always been big, or just got big from training. It's like growing, you never notice it. Because it's so slow.
Anyway, could somebody post an awesome routine for monday to friday?[/QUOTE]
Do not eat protein before work outs it will just sit in your stomach you eat carbs before work outs just to fill your stomach.
[QUOTE=oyotnas;25145451]Do not eat protein before work outs it will just sit in your stomach you eat carbs before work outs just to fill your stomach.[/QUOTE]
a little protein 20-30 min before a workout is beneficial, there have been studies done that show taking protein vs not taking it before a workout and there was a proven benefit
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