Because if you have an extra 70 pounds of muscle on your body that doesn't really go to any practical work, then yes, it hampers you because it's extra weight and requires energy to simply maintain. Your body doesn't lose muscle mass to fuck you over, it does it because it is optimum to have a good balance of strength, and a lightweight body. A balance of strength and weight is what gives you your endurance.
I suppose if weightlifting is your devoted hobby, then it's fine, but to keep that muscle you need to work out consistently to trick your body into thinking it needs the muscle. That's what weightlifting is, putting your body into artificial scenarios to encourage muscle growth. I'm saying that rather than popping pills and downing whey powder, you stick to a consistent; and above all, realistic diet to retain a normal metabolism, and have your optimum strength for your frame size and weight.
And yes, construction and landscaping is a good way to gain fitness. If you were to stop your weightlifting routine and only focus on labor-exercise, you'd lose your excess muscle mass as it hampers your body. The muscle mass dissapears eventually because it hampers you, your body requires extra nourishment and physical output to simply sustain the muscle mass. If you're devoted then I suppose weightlifting is an effective way of gaining strength, but all things considered it's just temporary. After you stop working out it dissipates because your body knows it's not worthwhile having it.
I worked reno for quite a while.. I'm naturally strong because of my height and frame size, so it didn't take me too long to get used to the work, but some of the guys there having been doing it for years, and they have bodies of steel. It's insane. Their body proportions are normal but they are able to work very hard for a very long time because they've built up an optimum strength to weight ratio. That's what true, literal strength training is.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215157]HNNNGEE.
Why the fuck do people say this?
Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat.
If you have 1kg of one substance and 1kg of another substance, they both weigh 1 fucking kilogram.
Muscle is more DENSE than fat, which has nothing to do with weight.[/QUOTE]
People do not mean it in that sense. It is like you said, it is more dense. People often get skinnier and the weight they lose doesn't represent their physical change very well because muscle is being built up.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215157]Hey dumbass. Semantics.
10 dips isn't strong OR fit, so go back to your cave.
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HNNNGEE.
Why the fuck do people say this?
Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat.
If you have 1kg of one substance and 1kg of another substance, they both weigh 1 fucking kilogram.
Muscle is more DENSE than fat, which has nothing to do with weight.[/QUOTE]
What he means is, if you put muscle in a 250ml cup and fill it to the brim, then get an equally sized 250ml empty cup and fill that with fat, the first cup will end up weighing more at the end.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215157]
HNNNGEE.
Why the fuck do people say this?
Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat.
If you have 1kg of one substance and 1kg of another substance, they both weigh 1 fucking kilogram.
Muscle is more DENSE than fat, which has nothing to do with weight.[/QUOTE]
Usually that means per volume, not per weight. 1 KG of feathers weighs the same thing as 1 KG of lead, but the lead contains that weight in a much, much tighter volume.
"muscle weighs more than fat" is an expression implying that you can work out all you want and never lose any weight, because what you lose in fat is quickly replaced by muscle. You may even gain weight depending on the workout.
agh, ninja'd
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;25215221]Because if you have an extra 70 pounds of muscle on your body that doesn't really go to any practical work, then yes, it hampers you because it's extra weight and requires energy to simply maintain. Your body doesn't lose muscle mass to fuck you over, it does it because it is optimum to have a good balance of strength, and a lightweight body. A balance of strength and weight is what gives you your endurance.
I suppose if weightlifting is your devoted hobby, then it's fine, but to keep that muscle you need to work out consistently to trick your body into thinking it needs the muscle. That's what weightlifting is, putting your body into artificial scenarios to encourage muscle growth.
I'm saying that rather than popping pills and downing whey powder, you stick to a consistent; and above all, realistic diet to retain a normal metabolism, and have your optimum strength for your frame size and weight.
And yes, construction and landscaping is a good way to gain fitness. If you were to stop your weightlifting routine and only focus on labor-exercise, you'd lose your excess muscle mass as it hampers your body. The muscle mass dissapears eventually because it hampers you, your body requires extra nourishment and physical output to simply sustain the muscle mass.
If you're devoted then I suppose weightlifting is an effective way of gaining strength, but all things considered it's just temporary. After you stop working out it dissipates because your body knows it's not worthwhile having it.
I worked reno for quite a while.. I'm naturally strong because of my height and frame size, so it didn't take me too long to get used to the work, but some of the guys there having been doing it for years, and they have bodies of steel. It's insane. Their body proportions are normal but they are able to work very hard for a very long time because they've built up an optimum strength to weight ratio. That's what true, literal strength training is.[/QUOTE]
If I have more muscle, I can be that much stronger than a guy who does not have as much muscle as me. So if I do manual labour, I can lift up more than a guy with less muscle. Sure, there are people who are strong from doing it for so long, but I can catch up to them and surpass them if I have more muscle which gives me more strength
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Oh and you can still not get an optimal strength/weight ratio by eating nothing but food, and not any supplements.
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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;25215298]Usually that means per volume, not per weight. 1 KG of feathers weighs the same thing as 1 KG of lead, but the lead contains that weight in a much, much tighter volume.
"muscle weighs more than fat" is an expression implying that you can work out all you want and never lose any weight, because what you lose in fat is quickly replaced by muscle. You may even gain weight depending on the workout.
agh, ninja'd[/QUOTE]
yeah that's what I was saying but then I figured I would use an example with a cup to make it easier to understand hahah
[QUOTE=drake;25056732]i need to fix my 100m times, 12 seconds is embarassing[/QUOTE]
Better than me
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;25214687]You lose your muscle because your body isn't supposed to have that much fucking muscle on it. To have ridiculously large muscles you will need to work out all the time.. your body only keeps what it needs in the longrun. It's not about building muscle mass, if you're weightlifting you should *ideally* be doing it to bolster your practical strength. Working out for "show muscles" may actually hamper you when doing [I]real [/I]labor.[/QUOTE]
More misconceptions.
You don't just inject steroids and suddenly become larger than life, most dickheads who are abusing AAS don't even get past 180lbs, so go figure lol.
What happens is:
A) most idiots don't know what they're doing, so when they stop injecting their body compensates for the abnormal increase in blood testosterone by lowering test and upping estrogen, among other things. This is why people who know what they are doing don't abuse the amounts and always have post cycle support drugs to get their body back to baseline.
B) idiots who abuse some of the more popular synthetic pro-hormones fuck up their endocrine system.
C) Most dumbass kids think they can "just take teh roidz for a little while bro, to get me up to speed". They put on about 10-15kg (usually less) of muscle, then stop taking whatever it is they are taking, and go back to their shitty routine of eating fuck all and doing fuck all. So their body has no reason to hold onto that calorically demanding substance. Reason A doesn't help their cause either.
As for the other misconceptions. No-one here will EVER get to the stage of "not supposed to have that much muscle". As I explained earlier, to get there takes ALL of these things: 1. Perfect genetics 2. 8-10 years of focused, ridiculous training and nutrition 3. A small chemistry set of anabolic drugs and the genetics to use borderline dangerous levels and not get fucked up. I seriously doubt any of us have any ONE of those things let alone all three.
I agree with the sentiment, if you're gonna be one of these douches who only works out their biceps, abs and chest, not only are you gonna look like shit, but you'll perform like shit, but, it's a terrible misconception that all bodybuilders don't have practical strength just because they are focused on aesthetics and hypertrophy.
[quote]If I have more muscle, I can be that much stronger than a guy who does not have as much muscle as me. So if I do manual labour, I can lift up more than a guy with less muscle. Sure, there are people who are strong from doing it for so long, but I can catch up to them and surpass them if I have more muscle which gives me more strength[/quote]I get where you're coming from, YOU would be stronger than somebody else in a very basic scenario, but you also need to consume quite a bit more food, and you need to maintain your exterior workout routine to maintain your muscle mass.
It's like the difference between a small, well tuned Toyota pickup truck and a massive and finicky Ford 4x4 truck. The small Toyota strains more under heavy loads, where the huge ford can move some pretty heavy stuff with ease.. But the Toyota has the benefit of being well tempered and sustainable, wheras the Ford requires lots of gasoline and maintenance to fuction correctly, and if it ever finds itself without the gasoline and maintenance it will quickly become useless.
Granted, people don't become "useless" they just lose the excess muscle mass. Your strength is temporary. When you are unable to consume enough food and maintain a workout routine, your body will gradually shrink to it's normal size. For all intents and purposes, lets just say that you found yourself without money for expensive food, and without time to resume your workout routine.. you would lose your muscle mass. You'd be left with nothing but a small quantity of short grain muscle, so you'd need to work quite hard to get back into a normal shape. Wheras somebody who has a well work tempered body hs got a balanced mixture of short grain and long grain muscle for strength and endurance, and above all their have a good body-weight to work easily and effectively.
So I'm saying it's overall better to work out under normal dietary circumstances, and work out your muscles evenly so that you are able to perform more realistic tasks such as running, climbing and practical heavy lifting. Bodybuilder muscle is not developed for work, it's devloped for weightlifting under the assumption that the muscles will always have the large amount of protein and calories to sustain them. Of course you can use them for work, but the guys who have the well tempered bodies are going to be able to work longer and harder than you, and be able to consume less as well.
Once again, though, if body building is a constant routine for you and you have the money and time to do it, then you'll have no problems, for all intents and purposes you are stronger than somebody who has a well tempered body, but it's not as reliable or multi-purpose.
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Yeah that makes sense but I think you're overexaggerating the whole losing muscle thing. There was a study done that I read the other day, it was on people who regularly worked out and then stopped for 1-2 months, they lost a bit of size but only a small precentage of strength, like almost insignificant. Granted, they still ate but really it's not that hard to eat your daily calories, I mean nuts like almonds/cashews/peanuts have like 300+ calories along with a bunch of protein in just a handful.
Well in our society you are able to eat enough to sustain muscle, but bodybuilding always seems a bit weird to me as its sort of a luxury. :saddowns:
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;25215701]Well in our society you are able to eat enough to sustain muscle, but bodybuilding always seems a bit weird to me as its sort of a luxury. :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
how? really, a decent gym is only like $1000 a year, even if you have a part-time job that's not too bad
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;25215221]Because if you have an extra 70 pounds of muscle on your body that doesn't really go to any practical work, then yes, it hampers you because it's extra weight and requires energy to simply maintain. Your body doesn't lose muscle mass to fuck you over, it does it because it is optimum to have a good balance of strength, and a lightweight body. A balance of strength and weight is what gives you your endurance.
I suppose if weightlifting is your devoted hobby, then it's fine, but to keep that muscle you need to work out consistently to trick your body into thinking it needs the muscle. That's what weightlifting is, putting your body into artificial scenarios to encourage muscle growth. I'm saying that rather than popping pills and downing whey powder, you stick to a consistent; and above all, realistic diet to retain a normal metabolism, and have your optimum strength for your frame size and weight.
And yes, construction and landscaping is a good way to gain fitness. If you were to stop your weightlifting routine and only focus on labor-exercise, you'd lose your excess muscle mass as it hampers your body. The muscle mass dissapears eventually because it hampers you, your body requires extra nourishment and physical output to simply sustain the muscle mass. If you're devoted then I suppose weightlifting is an effective way of gaining strength, but all things considered it's just temporary. After you stop working out it dissipates because your body knows it's not worthwhile having it.
I worked reno for quite a while.. I'm naturally strong because of my height and frame size, so it didn't take me too long to get used to the work, but some of the guys there having been doing it for years, and they have bodies of steel. It's insane. Their body proportions are normal but they are able to work very hard for a very long time because they've built up an optimum strength to weight ratio. That's what true, literal strength training is.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how that's a problem at all unless you're an Ethiopian and are relying on UN food packages to stay alive. Also optimum for what? Let's establish what is optimum before we start throwing around wild generalizations like that.
I lift weights to support my athleticism in boxing. That's right. Strength training has not only increased my explosiveness, but also improved my speed and power. I don't mean to be offensive, but I think your understanding of how strength training effects the body is very limited. I don't pop any pills apart from multivitamins, and whey powder is just more food.
If you were to stop weightlifting and start labor, you wouldn't lose anything if you were still eating the same amount of food. The reason most guys lose mass is because they're not realizing how much more energy they're expending from long periods of work, hence they need more food to maintain weight. If your in a caloric deficit, you are going to lose weight, again it has nothing to do with muscle.
EVERYTHING IS TEMPORARY. Your body is a dynamic system that is constantly changing and adapting based on the environment that it is in. What's your point?
What? it has nothing to do with some vague notion of "optimum strength-to-wait ratio". It's because their body's CNS has adapted to the workload. That's what happens when you place your body in stress, it adapts.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215157]Hey dumbass. Semantics.
10 dips isn't strong OR fit, so go back to your cave.
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HNNNGEE.
Why the fuck do people say this?
Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat.
If you have 1kg of one substance and 1kg of another substance, they both weigh 1 fucking kilogram.
Muscle is more DENSE than fat, which has nothing to do with weight.[/QUOTE]
Technically...it does weigh more, because if the volumes are the same muscle would weigh more.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25215933]Technically...it does weigh more, because if the volumes are the same muscle would weigh more.[/QUOTE]
No. It does not [B]weigh[/B] more. The correct way to say it would be "muscle is heavier by volume than fat".
Density =/= weight.
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As an aside, weigh is a really strange looking word.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215974]No. It does not [B]weigh[/B] more. The correct way to say it would be "muscle is heavier by volume than fat".
Density =/= weight.[/QUOTE]
But the idea is that with the same volume muscle would have more mass, and since weight is simply the product of gravity and mass, muscle would WEIGH more because it has more mass to be acted upon by gravity.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215870]I don't see how that's a problem at all unless you're an Ethiopian and are relying on UN food packages to stay alive. Also optimum for what? Let's establish what is optimum before we start throwing around wild generalizations like that.
I lift weights to support my athleticism in boxing. That's right. Strength training has not only increased my explosiveness, but also improved my speed and power. I don't mean to be offensive, but I think your understanding of how strength training effects the body is very limited. I don't pop any pills apart from multivitamins, and whey powder is just more food.
If you were to stop weightlifting and start labor, you wouldn't lose anything if you were still eating the same amount of food. The reason most guys lose mass is because they're not realizing how much more energy they're expending from long periods of work, hence they need more food to maintain weight. If your in a caloric deficit, you are going to lose weight, again it has nothing to do with muscle.
EVERYTHING IS TEMPORARY. Your body is a dynamic system that is constantly changing and adapting based on the environment that it is in. What's your point?
What? it has nothing to do with some vague notion of "optimum strength-to-wait ratio". It's because their body's CNS has adapted to the workload. That's what happens when you place your body in stress, it adapts.[/QUOTE]
but it's true that if you stop working out you're going to eventually lose a lot of your muscle, even if it does take close to a year to do so
hey I know about weightlifting
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[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215870]I don't see how that's a problem at all unless you're an Ethiopian and are relying on UN food packages to stay alive. Also optimum for what? Let's establish what is optimum before we start throwing around wild generalizations like that.
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The amount of food needed to maintain muscle with a fast metabolism is insane
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[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25216016]but it's true that if you stop working out you're going to eventually lose a lot of your muscle, even if it does take close to a year to do so[/QUOTE]
It'll take a lot less than a year to loose power, then size will go shortly after
[QUOTE=SeriousPoster;25216203]hey I know about weightlifting
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The amount of food needed to maintain muscle with a fast metabolism is insane
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It'll take a lot less than a year to loose power, then size will go shortly after[/QUOTE]
Food isn't THAT much. It's alot to eat for sure, but it's entirely fucking doable. Very few "hardgainers" actually exist, I'm convinced of this. Most are just bitchy teens who don't realize how little they actually eat. I have at least 4 friends who complained about not being able to gain muscle (so their solution was of course "im gonna get roids") then I find out they'll miss meals, maybe not eat anything for the better part of an entire day then have one huge meal of shit and that apparently constitutes eating alot.
CNS adaptions are pretty quick to go, but no, size isn't lost that fast unless you're in a caloric deficit. Almost a year sounds about right, depending on variables.
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Variables is the key word here. Although I'm not a big fan of the whole "genetics are stopping me from doing <x>" thing, it is true some people just have superior genetics for building and maintaining muscle. There are guys who can maintain muscle mass on ridiculously little amounts of food for extended periods of time.
Worked out so hard on Friday that I feel dead. Still recuperating.
[QUOTE=Tahrok;25216775]Worked out so hard on Friday that I feel dead. Still recuperating.[/QUOTE]
that's every workout for me. feels better after having another crazy workout the day after, though. it's a vicious cycle. I can barely walk right now after squatting yesterday
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25216900]that's every workout for me. feels better after having another crazy workout the day after, though. it's a vicious cycle. I can barely walk right now after squatting yesterday[/QUOTE]
You should adjust to it if you do it every day. I just started doing my new workout this week.
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[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25205224]the bar bends when I do my 300 pound deadlifts lol[/QUOTE]
Holy what kind of shit bar do you use that bends at 300 pounds...?
[QUOTE=Tahrok;25216930]You should adjust to it if you do it every day. I just started doing my new workout this week.
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Holy what kind of shit bar do you use that bends at 300 pounds...?[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't adjust to it, unless you're an idiot and you do the exact same workout all year. I change it up, just like you're supposed to, so my muscles don't get used to it. And I always up the weight when I can, therefore soreness all the time.
And it's just a normal 45 bar, next time you have 300 on a bar, check it out, it will most likely bend.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25216992]You shouldn't adjust to it, unless you're an idiot and you do the exact same workout all year. I change it up, just like you're supposed to, so my muscles don't get used to it. And I always up the weight when I can, therefore soreness all the time.
And it's just a normal 45 bar, next time you have 300 on a bar, check it out, it will most likely bend.[/QUOTE]
I guess I've never noticed. I do change up my workout but after about a month of extremely hard work I stop feeling sore.
That's how I've always been.
[QUOTE=Tahrok;25217050]I guess I've never noticed. I do change up my workout but after about a month of extremely hard work I stop feeling sore.
That's how I've always been.[/QUOTE]
My understanding was always: "if it's not hurting the next day, you're not working hard enough", lol
[QUOTE=nevaeh;25180427]Well obviously you need to cut weight. In weightlifting there is cutting and bulking. Cutting is when you eat surplus calories and protein so your body can grow. Cutting is when you eat less calories then what your body normal takes in. If you've been eating 3000 calories while bulking, and since around 2000 is around how much your body needs to maintain itself then you need to eat less than 2000 calories to lose weight. 2000 is a rough estimate, it depends on what you weigh.
When you cut you lose muscle because your body loses muscle before fat, but you will still lose fat.
You can go on CKD diet (Cycling Keto diet) which will make you keep muscle. You eat under 30 carbs a day, and then on the last day of the week you eat tons of carbs to replenish your muscles for the next week.
It's like the atkins diet except on the CKD you carb load.
Your body has been taught to use carbs for fuel, but if you change the fuel then fat burning becomes more efficient. You need to take in more healthy fats. Low carb food is mostly meat and veggies. Avoid pasta/bread/fruits at all costs.
You can eat a lot of great foods on the CKD, but do more research on it.
Cardio wouldn't be a bad idea either to lose weight...plus your working out the most important muscle in your body(the heart).[/QUOTE]
What the fuck is this bullshit? don't talk unless you're qualified to do so, fool
First off, never ever cut weight unless you are competing in something where weightcutting is beneficial, e.g. wrestling, grappling, body building tournaments, powerlifting tournaments, related shit.
CUTTING IS WHEN YOU DRAIN YOUR BODY OF ALL FOOD AND LIQUID SUBSTANCES TO ACHIEVE LOWEST POSSIBLE WEIGHT. THE WEIGHT WILL COME RIGHT BACK ON AS SOON AS YOU START EATING AGAIN.
Second off, the "2000 calories a day" thing is bullshit. everyones body is different. thirdly, when you bulk, you aim to gain fat, muscle, and strength. 3000 calories a day AIN'T JACK SHIT for bulking. If you want to bulk, aim for atleast 150 grams of protein a day along with 6000, yes, 6000 clean calories. You will pack on fucking ridiculous amounts of muscle, but you'll also get a little chubby. as soon as you stop bulking you'll shrink a little but your muscles will still have the strength and some of the relative size. Fourth, yes, your body does lose muscle before fat IF YOU ARE NOT EATING PROPERLY. I've packed on easily 20 lbs of muscle since march and lost easily 30 lbs of fat. I keep losing weight and retaining, even growing my muscles. Fuck all those bullshit fad diets. Eat clean, lift lots of weights, build muscle, and do cardio. Building muscle will increase your resting metabolism and increase the amount of food you can eat while still losing weight. I can eat like a fucking pig and ain't shit gonna happen but my stomach get a little bigger for a couple days because i have so much muscle.
If you think I'm not qualified to give advice on this shit i'll post my credentials
Few days ago
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Start of july
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Me when I was 12 or 13
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[QUOTE=SeriousPoster;25216203]hey I know about weightlifting
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The amount of food needed to maintain muscle with a fast metabolism is insane
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It'll take a lot less than a year to loose power, then size will go shortly after[/QUOTE]
i notice within a month i lose my power, size leaves after about 3 months
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[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25217098]My understanding was always: "if it's not hurting the next day, you're not working hard enough", lol[/QUOTE]
this is partially correct and partiall incorrect
if your muscle groups are sore, and they hurt like fuck when you move them, you are not getting enough nutrients into your muscles and they haven't had time to rebuild. if they're super sore, take a day off and eat like a pig with all the chicken and rice you want. the next day your muscle group will be swoll and hard as fuck, they've been given proper nutrition and proper resting time. but, on the flipside, when your muscles are sore that means they have been torn down and are ready to be rebuilt. after a good workout, you should be sore. when you wake up the next morning you shouldn't be sore. always drink a protein shake right when you wake up. if for some reason you're still sore even after that, have a big breakfast and do some light cardio an hour afterwards. your body will digest it then get blood flowing to the new muscle to relieve some of the pain
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[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25215870]I don't see how that's a problem at all unless you're an Ethiopian and are relying on UN food packages to stay alive. Also optimum for what? Let's establish what is optimum before we start throwing around wild generalizations like that.
I lift weights to support my athleticism in boxing. That's right. Strength training has not only increased my explosiveness, but also improved my speed and power. I don't mean to be offensive, but I think your understanding of how strength training effects the body is very limited. I don't pop any pills apart from multivitamins, and whey powder is just more food.
If you were to stop weightlifting and start labor, you wouldn't lose anything if you were still eating the same amount of food. The reason most guys lose mass is because they're not realizing how much more energy they're expending from long periods of work, hence they need more food to maintain weight. If your in a caloric deficit, you are going to lose weight, again it has nothing to do with muscle.
EVERYTHING IS TEMPORARY. Your body is a dynamic system that is constantly changing and adapting based on the environment that it is in. What's your point?
What? it has nothing to do with some vague notion of "optimum strength-to-wait ratio". It's because their body's CNS has adapted to the workload. That's what happens when you place your body in stress, it adapts.[/QUOTE]
i fucking hate, HATE HATE, when people say muscle slows you down. i'm not really sure how to say this without sounding retarded but lifting big weights means your body can generate more force. generating more force means more power, more speed. i'm very very fast, especially for being a fucking pitbull at 5'10 210 lbs. i'm faster then most 170 wrestlers. why? I lift weights like a motherfucker. i explode when i work out. i make sure every repetition is an explosion. i'm using proper form and working my muscles correctly, but i'm also building the fast twitch and my muscular endurance. fuck it i'm done i'm tired and high and dont' even want to explain rigth now
tl;dr proper weightlifting can help you in all walks of your athletic career
Dude no offense but half the stuff you said is completely wrong. Taking a protein shake when you wake up? Wtf? That's utterly useless. You can have one before your workout, after your workout, or a slow digesting protein before bed, but not when you wake up...
If a muscle group is super sore, you don't just pig out, you keep going like you normally do, you're not going to affect much from pumping more nutrients into it.
And the guy that was talking about 2000 calories a day was using a rough, average number of calories. A 1000 calorie surplus is enough for average people, I have about 4000-6000 calories a day, depends really.
And cutting is an awesome way to look better and feel better, it's not the cutting that you're talking about for contest prep, but actually just eating less fats, doing more cardio, etc.
I'mma explain why you're wrong on protein shake in the morning
You haven't had any nutrition for most likely 5+ hours, for most people it's 8+. Your body is starving, it needs nutrients. When it's THAT hungry it breaks down every little single piece of nutrients. Plus, when you sleep, it's well known that your metabolism slows down. When you wake up, you are hungrier then a motherfucker, and your metabolism is slow. A protein shake will help with the nutrients and kick start your metabolism. Ask any bodybuilding forum about protein shakes in the morning, they all do it.
If a muscle group is super sore because of heavy lifting, and you've already eaten dinner/gone to bed whatever, YOU NEED MORE FUCKING NUTRIENTS. Seriously bro, you need to hang around more serious lifters for a little while.
Cutting is unhealthy as all fuck and fucking retarded to do. Cutting to you may mean eating healthier or doing more cardio, but I've been involved with combat sports for the past 6 years so cutting to me means cutting weight for competition.
I go to the gym but once I see all the strong, buff men filling the weight section I go ''fuck that'' and just go run or something.
[QUOTE=SickJits;25217444]I'mma explain why you're wrong on protein shake in the morning
You haven't had any nutrition for most likely 5+ hours, for most people it's 8+. Your body is starving, it needs nutrients. When it's THAT hungry it breaks down every little single piece of nutrients. Plus, when you sleep, it's well known that your metabolism slows down. When you wake up, you are hungrier then a motherfucker, and your metabolism is slow. A protein shake will help with the nutrients and kick start your metabolism. Ask any bodybuilding forum about protein shakes in the morning, they all do it.
If a muscle group is super sore because of heavy lifting, and you've already eaten dinner/gone to bed whatever, YOU NEED MORE FUCKING NUTRIENTS. Seriously bro, you need to hang around more serious lifters for a little while.
Cutting is unhealthy as all fuck and fucking retarded to do. Cutting to you may mean eating healthier or doing more cardio, but I've been involved with combat sports for the past 6 years so cutting to me means cutting weight for competition.[/QUOTE]
Why leave your body without nutrients for 8 hours then blast it with concentrated protein? That's why you have it before bed (slow digesting) so overnight your body does not even notice a change.
If your muscles are sore they will be fine if you are already eating at a surplus, having any extra is kind of useless.
I have also done Kickboxing/Muay Thai (mma) for more than half my life so I know what both of those mean. Oh, and my workout buddy is over 200 pounds and deadlifts over 400 so I think I am hanging out with the right kind of people. I can also deadlift 300+ myself so I think I got at least a little bit of credential lol.
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[QUOTE=Paravin;25217474]I go to the gym but once I see all the strong, buff men filling the weight section I go ''fuck that'' and just go run or something.[/QUOTE]
just think, every single one of them was probably at one point in the same position as you, the difference is, they stuck to it and went in there but you backed off and did some running
man up!!
On the bright side, my cardio [b]does[/b] need some work. I can't even count the times I've been last when running.
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