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[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28181391]You play water polo? Nice. I did competitive, could have played on the national team (srs) but focused on school instead. The thing is, when I played water polo I mostly did in water exercises and didn't really do that much gym stuff. I know a good way to get a faster eggbeater is to try and carry a chair for multiple pool lenghts, arms out of the water, as high as you can. But my guess for working out is that explosive leg workouts will help you quite a bit. You can try explosive squats to start. Go down really slow and go up as fast as you can (with enough weight to make it difficult). Also, your arm workout does not really have much 'arm' in it, all those things you said are either shoulder, or chest. If you want arm strength do some curls or skullcrushers. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE] I talked with a coach (coaches UC Berkeley) who coached the coach (who also agrees, feels so weird typing that) of the USA national water polo team for bejing and said chair workouts were shit and to actually get weights and do them in the pool. He said also to do boxing workouts to help my reflexes thus I do those. The problem is is that I don't have any weights I can use in the pool and my coach just focuses on training the field players. I'm guessing doing some 21s and 12-10-8 rep skullcrushers with a +5 or +2.5 gain would be good? [editline]20th February 2011[/editline] Also, would a dumbbell triceps extension be better than a skullcrusher?
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;28181511]I talked with a coach (coaches UC Berkeley) who coached the coach (who also agrees, feels so weird typing that) of the USA national water polo team for bejing and said chair workouts were shit and to actually get weights and do them in the pool. He said also to do boxing workouts to help my reflexes thus I do those. The problem is is that I don't have any weights I can use in the pool and my coach just focuses on training the field players. I'm guessing doing some 21s and 12-10-8 rep skullcrushers with a +5 or +2.5 gain would be good? [editline]20th February 2011[/editline] Also, would a dumbbell triceps extension be better than a skullcrusher?[/QUOTE] Skullcrushers are probably better but dumbbells are good to, since you work each hand individually. ANd yeah 21s are good, do some preacher curls as well. lol@chair workouts being shit, isn`t that the same as a weight except chairs are harder to balance? and what do you mean weights to use in the pool?
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28181719]Skullcrushers are probably better but dumbbells are good to, since you work each hand individually. ANd yeah 21s are good, do some preacher curls as well. lol@chair workouts being shit, isn`t that the same as a weight except chairs are harder to balance? and what do you mean weights to use in the pool?[/QUOTE] He said there were specific weights (belts or wraps around your shoulders) for these workouts and the problem with chairs is that it doesn't distrubute weight right like a specific weight would. I think its bullshit but then again, these guys coached olympic teams.
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;28181812]He said there were specific weights (belts or wraps around your shoulders) for these workouts and the problem with chairs is that it doesn't distrubute weight right like a specific weight would. I think its bullshit but then again, these guys coached olympic teams.[/QUOTE] Yeah that makes sense but I still think the chair is a killer workout, always using different muscles to balance it and such. You can probably buy some ankle weights and try it in the water?
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28181865]Yeah that makes sense but I still think the chair is a killer workout, always using different muscles to balance it and such. You can probably buy some ankle weights and try it in the water?[/QUOTE] I guess, I just hope I have the time too. I'm the only goalie and most of the field players are newbies. I have some experience so my coach just sends me in the cage and sometimes block shots during practice. He expects me to be on task all time and to be ready although he talks most of time to the field players. I get so bored, I'll start doing underwater press with the water polo ball (which actually wares my arms down) while beatboxing. He says I shouldn't get the chair since I would be off task, off task my ass.
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;28181984]I guess, I just hope I have the time too. I'm the only goalie and most of the field players are newbies. I have some experience so my coach just sends me in the cage and sometimes block shots during practice. He expects me to be on task all time and to be ready although he talks most of time to the field players. I get so bored, I'll start doing underwater press with the water polo ball (which actually wares my arms down) while beatboxing. He says I shouldn't get the chair since I would be off task, off task my ass.[/QUOTE] Hahaha wow. If you get bored, just do jump outs-left, center, right, right, center left, and go as far/high as you can. Or do double whip kick jumps (small then big right after).
Guys I'm having trouble planning my cutting diet. My BMR is around 3200 cals and I need 500 cals below that which means 2700 but I'm struggling to get even 2200 without exceeding 100g of carbs. Could anyone post a decent cutting diet that has enough calories and preferably 190+ grams of protein?
How the fuck do carry a chair while swimming?
Very carefully
[QUOTE=CANAD14N;28188717]How the fuck do carry a chair while swimming?[/QUOTE] Eggbeater. Think of breast stroke except one leg at a time vertically.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;28188706]Guys I'm having trouble planning my cutting diet. My BMR is around 3200 cals and I need 500 cals below that which means 2700 but I'm struggling to get even 2200 without exceeding 100g of carbs. Could anyone post a decent cutting diet that has enough calories and preferably 190+ grams of protein?[/QUOTE] Wrong thinking. Read - Burn the Fat, Feed the muscle. lowering 500 cals instantly is fucked. Use precentages. Not everybody needs to go with half a kilo. Just read the ebook.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;28188706]Guys I'm having trouble planning my cutting diet. My BMR is around 3200 cals and I need 500 cals below that which means 2700 but I'm struggling to get even 2200 without exceeding 100g of carbs. Could anyone post a decent cutting diet that has enough calories and preferably 190+ grams of protein?[/QUOTE] Why are you even thinking about cutting right now
First time being under 110 kg in a very long time!
[QUOTE=Perfumly;28189813]Why are you even thinking about cutting right now[/QUOTE] I'll begin my cut around mid-march and it's best to plan it all out before it starts instead of rushing into it and failing.
I'm debating whether or not i should even cut. I'm fucking skinny as hell already. If i do i probably will late. Chest and shoulders day. Gonna try to dumbbell bench 100's today. Wish me luckkk
I've always though that the little things next to your lats are ribs... Now I found out that they're muscles lol, and somehow I've managed to get them really visible. Can't post pics, cant find my usb wire. But here's the thing I mean [img]http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/gallery/muscle/serratus_anterior220.jpg[/img] [img]http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/Serratus_anterior.png[/img]
Had a fucking great workout today! Deadlifted about 253lbs or 115kg for 3 sets of 6, only just barely making the last one. I think deads might be my new favorite excersize aside from incline dumbellpress.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28170364]It's like my first home. Umad? [editline]20th February 2011[/editline] Doing a wide grip pullup, stopping at the top, and while keeping your head above the bar, going side to side as far as you can go. Other variations are possible too. Look it up, it`s pretty nifty.[/QUOTE] cool, i'll try that tonight my weights came today, a 5ft bar and 2x 10kg discs gotta start somewhere :D anyway i'm feeling some strain on a ligament right above my elbow joint, and i;m sort of worried i'm going to damage my arm if i continue i felt the same pain when i started with the bells, it went away after a while though what should i do?
[QUOTE=Maucer;28191008]I've always though that the little things next to your lats are ribs... Now I found out that they're muscles lol, and somehow I've managed to get them really visible. Can't post pics, cant find my usb wire. But here's the thing I mean [img_thumb]http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/gallery/muscle/serratus_anterior220.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/Serratus_anterior.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Yeah man, it's almost as if once you have them, you'll always have them. Even while bulking with a higher BF% those are the things that stay visible for quite some time.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;28188706]Guys I'm having trouble planning my cutting diet. My BMR is around 3200 cals and I need 500 cals below that which means 2700 but I'm struggling to get even 2200 without exceeding 100g of carbs. Could anyone post a decent cutting diet that has enough calories and preferably 190+ grams of protein?[/QUOTE] Why does it matter how many carbs you eat?
[QUOTE=L34rn;28191930]cool, i'll try that tonight my weights came today, a 5ft bar and 2x 10kg discs gotta start somewhere :D anyway i'm feeling some strain on a ligament right above my elbow joint, and i;m sort of worried i'm going to damage my arm if i continue i felt the same pain when i started with the bells, it went away after a while though what should i do?[/QUOTE] or tendon?
Benchpressed 5x5 53-54 kg for the first time. I'm going to do 5x6 and then 5x7 etc., but how far should I go before I put more weight on?
I don't have any science to back this up, this is just my personal experience with weight training. I think you should start lighter, and do more reps. Instead of having to stick to 54kg, go lighter, so that you are able to push out 10 reps. Increase the weight you can, but keep the reps the same. If you are starting out, you want to find good balance and proper form, and that's easier with lighter weights.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;28192571]Why does it matter how many carbs you eat?[/QUOTE] He's eating low carbs because it binds fat to your body. It's not exactly healthy nor is it too bad unless you're being very extreme then it can cause some trouble in the future.
[QUOTE=U$O;28193509]I don't have any science to back this up, this is just my personal experience with weight training. I think you should start lighter, and do more reps. Instead of having to stick to 54kg, go lighter, so that you are able to push out 10 reps. Increase the weight you can, but keep the reps the same. If you are starting out, you want to find good balance and proper form, and that's easier with lighter weights.[/QUOTE] I've been working out with free weights for a couple of months now, so balance and shit isn't a problem.
Everyone I know just keeps the reps the same, and increase the weight when they get stronger. Is it because you work out at home?
What does that have to do with anything?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;28188706]Guys I'm having trouble planning my cutting diet. My BMR is around 3200 cals and I need 500 cals below that which means 2700 but I'm struggling to get even 2200 without exceeding 100g of carbs. Could anyone post a decent cutting diet that has enough calories and preferably 190+ grams of protein?[/QUOTE] less than 100g of carbs is hard as fuck, shoot for something higher like less than 200g or else all you`ll be able to have are protein shakes [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Binsky;28190538]I'm debating whether or not i should even cut. I'm fucking skinny as hell already. If i do i probably will late. Chest and shoulders day. Gonna try to dumbbell bench 100's today. Wish me luckkk[/QUOTE] good luck bro tell us how it goes [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=L34rn;28191930]cool, i'll try that tonight my weights came today, a 5ft bar and 2x 10kg discs gotta start somewhere :D anyway i'm feeling some strain on a ligament right above my elbow joint, and i;m sort of worried i'm going to damage my arm if i continue i felt the same pain when i started with the bells, it went away after a while though what should i do?[/QUOTE] when does the strain happen? like during what exercise? [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CANAD14N;28188717]How the fuck do carry a chair while swimming?[/QUOTE] hands above your head, doing eggbeater [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=sp00ks;28192621]Benchpressed 5x5 53-54 kg for the first time. I'm going to do 5x6 and then 5x7 etc., but how far should I go before I put more weight on?[/QUOTE] are you doing starting strength or something? [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Maucer;28191008]I've always though that the little things next to your lats are ribs... Now I found out that they're muscles lol, and somehow I've managed to get them really visible. Can't post pics, cant find my usb wire. But here's the thing I mean [img_thumb]http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/gallery/muscle/serratus_anterior220.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/Serratus_anterior.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] mind=full of fuk
Starting strenght?
during curls [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] going to bed btw VQ you are a hero, thanks for all the help so far!
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