• Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread
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This isn't really weightlifting, but you guys seem to know about the subject: What would be the best way to stretch out my new hip? (Replaced at the beginning of summer)
[QUOTE=GamerKiwi;25071593]What exercises can I do with just dumbbells? I already know how to do curls, but I don't know what else. I'm trying to gets strong and lose some fat. I'm taking weight training at school, but I won't be taking any form of PE after the first semester, so my parents said that they will get me a good set of dumbbells. Also, why take protein supplements? I've just incorporated more protein into my diet (eating PB on toast for breakfast instead of cheerios, packing turkey sandwiches for lunch, etc.)[/QUOTE] To get as much protein from peanut butter as you would from 2 scoops of Myofusion you would need to eat one whole cup of peanut butter. As in, 250 grams. It just makes things easier. [editline]03:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=OvB;25081031]This isn't really weightlifting, but you guys seem to know about the subject: What would be the best way to stretch out my new hip? (Replaced at the beginning of summer)[/QUOTE] My best guess would be lunges, stretches using the foam roller and the thing you step on and have to balance yourself. Those would stretch out the muscle along with stabilizer muscles. [editline]03:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=StormHammer;25071900]Yea I've been weight lifting for a year now, and its definitely been worth it. Current stats - 350 squat 405 deadlift 205 bench (Weak as hell, but my lower body is good. So I'm happy.) My lower body has always been really tough ever since I did a month long squat cycle called the Smolov (Its Russian) where you squat HEAVY 4 times a week. (Mon, Wed, Friday, Sat). My legs were basically dead at the end of it, and it took almost a month to recover fully, but since than my entire lower body has been very strong. I wouldn't recommend it regardless, you might die. But yea if you can start, weight lifting is a great way to get in shape, just learn to keep the form good and lift with friends if you can, its safer that way.[/QUOTE] Nice stats man, what's your weight? [editline]03:36AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Firerain;25075067]i seriously hate benching so much i dont like talking about it ;_;[/QUOTE] But when you get good at it you look super cool in front of everyone cause the only thing anyone cares about other than people who actually workout is 'how much you bench'. I get asked that all the time 'bro, how much do you bench? oh and what's a deadlift all i do with ma boyz at da gym is da curlz and bench bro'
I'm mediocre with upperbody shit, but I can leg press 605 and calve press over 150. I won't ever understand this shit...
I love calf raises. I can do 265 on those or about there. (Three 45 plates and my friend standing on the calf machine) [editline]03:49AM[/editline] Also just did 150 pushups I am feeling good tonight
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25081021]That's a pretty good split actually, the only problem is that if you don't work out every single day, your muscles will have too much rest between each time they workout and may not comprehend the working out as exercise, but merely a stress that happens once in a while. For example, if you only do chest twice a week it might not be often enough and if you do take any break days you might be doing chest 1 in every 4 or 5 days. Pretty good split to start though, once you get more serious try and get a 2 day split going. [editline]03:32AM[/editline] This x 100[/QUOTE] holy fuck NEVER LISTEN TO ANYTHING THIS GUY SAYS EVER. SERIOUSLY HE IS CLUELESS. I KNOW PROFESSIONAL POWERLIFTERS WHO HAVE WORKED 2 DAY SPLITS. THIS ENTIRE POST IS GARBAGE [editline]05:16AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Perfumly;25081330]I love calf raises. I can do 265 on those or about there. (Three 45 plates and my friend standing on the calf machine) [editline]03:49AM[/editline] Also just did 150 pushups I am feeling good tonight[/QUOTE] lmao 150 pushups what a waste of time gj training your chest for endurance rather than bulk or strength that will b v useful
[QUOTE=DJSergei;25071887]Excessive muscles freak me the fuck out, like the man who's arms exploded, that shit was heavy.[/QUOTE] The "guy who's arms exploded" was using an injectable synthetic oil known as Synthol, to make the muscles appear larger (but also incredibly unnatural as you can plainly see). As such, putting something that is chemically similar to motor oil into the fascia of you muscles isn't healthy, and potentially leads to infections, as we saw with him. But of course the media runs with this and passes it off as "steroids", LOL.
[QUOTE=Firerain;25081830] lmao 150 pushups what a waste of time gj training your chest for endurance rather than bulk or strength that will b v useful[/QUOTE] This is an offday firerain you freaking butt stamper >:( I wasnt' even supposed to do anything today I just like doing pushups
[QUOTE=Firerain;25081830]holy fuck NEVER LISTEN TO ANYTHING THIS GUY SAYS EVER. SERIOUSLY HE IS CLUELESS. I KNOW PROFESSIONAL POWERLIFTERS WHO HAVE WORKED 2 DAY SPLITS. THIS ENTIRE POST IS GARBAGE [editline]05:16AM[/editline] lmao 150 pushups what a waste of time gj training your chest for endurance rather than bulk or strength that will b v useful[/QUOTE] OMG THIS GUY IS SO SMART HE KNOWS EVERYTHING SERIOUSLY OMG HE IS A PRO SRS LOOK AT HIS AVATAR HE'S PRO DUDE HE'S SRS PRO shut the fuck up, 2 day splits can be done by an amateur or a proffesional powerlifter, obviously the amateur won't do it as intense, how do you not understand that a 4 or 5 day break for a body part is too long? 2 day splits aren't even that bad, lots of people do all body every 2nd day and they're fine GUYS DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT
There's about to be a throwdown
[QUOTE=DONUT KING;25080505]I don't really see the point in bodybuilding if it's just for appearance. Being a muscle-bound idiot who can't put his arm past a 90 degree angle because his biceps are bigger than his head doesn't sound too appealing.[/QUOTE] Guess what buddy, you'll NEVER get as big as that. Trust me. Getting big to the point where your size is causing you problems (chafing in legs etc) would take: 1. Fantastic genetics 2. A boatload of AAS (that's "steroids" to those of you who know nothing about them) 3. about 8-10 years of solid high performance training and nutrition. Do you have all three of those things? I seriously don't get this retarded attitude towards bodybuilding some people have. You don't accidentally get "too big".
Gotta give reps on the amount of endurance you got Perf, my maxes are all alot higher than yours but you can definitely do more pushups than I can. Anybody else incorporate sprints and running into their workout? A little bit of cardio goes a LONG way. [editline]11:34PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25082132]Guess what buddy, you'll NEVER get as big as that. Trust me. Getting big to the point where your size is causing you problems (chafing in legs etc) would take: 1. Fantastic genetics 2. A boatload of AAS (that's "steroids" to those of you who know nothing about them) 3. about 8-10 years of solid high performance training and nutrition.[/QUOTE] Also this, you will never reach this point and its a bad excuse to not lift weights.
What's your bodyweight, StormHammer?
throwdown [editline]04:44AM[/editline] firerain if you're so super smart and apparently know everything please educated me with your all knowingness why the 2 day split is bad [editline]05:01AM[/editline] please [editline]05:03AM[/editline] oh and all you skinny guys in this thread, make sure you're eating enough. there's no use working out then complaining you're not getting any bigger if you weigh 120 and eat 2000 calories a day. Start eating more, and more often. Bulk bulk bulk
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25069666]nice! how much do you weigh?[/QUOTE] ~170lbs
[QUOTE=Pred4tor;25082989]~170lbs[/QUOTE] a 115 bench press for your first time is not bad at all. and the best part is, it will only go up from there!
question, which is better? in the sense of safety and muscle building, air machines or free weights?
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;25083471]question, which is better? in the sense of safety and muscle building, air machines or free weights?[/QUOTE] Well you can be "safe" and do all the machines you want and never actually get anywhere respectable. Or you could not be a pussy, and just do the fucking free weights. But seriously, unless your doing something incredibly retarded, free weights are plenty safe. Just make sure you've got a spotter on the dangerous lifts like bench press if your going heavy. Free weights are infinitely better at any rate.
Excuse me, how is creatine not worth it in the long run? About your "rep range", got any actual scientific proof? Because is it right that different amounts of reps do affect your muscles in different ways, scientists are still debating on this matter, which is why I find it very doubtful that you should have discovered the secret. [editline]08:28AM[/editline] [QUOTE=VQ35HR;25082096]OMG THIS GUY IS SO SMART HE KNOWS EVERYTHING SERIOUSLY OMG HE IS A PRO SRS LOOK AT HIS AVATAR HE'S PRO DUDE HE'S SRS PRO shut the fuck up, 2 day splits can be done by an amateur or a proffesional powerlifter, obviously the amateur won't do it as intense, how do you not understand that a 4 or 5 day break for a body part is too long? 2 day splits aren't even that bad, lots of people do all body every 2nd day and they're fine GUYS DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT[/QUOTE] You do realize why you make split programs, and not fullbody, right?
[QUOTE=StormHammer;25071900]Yea I've been weight lifting for a year now, and its definitely been worth it. Current stats - 350 squat 405 deadlift 205 bench (Weak as hell, but my lower body is good. So I'm happy.) My lower body has always been really tough ever since I did a month long squat cycle called the Smolov (Its Russian) where you squat HEAVY 4 times a week. (Mon, Wed, Friday, Sat). My legs were basically dead at the end of it, and it took almost a month to recover fully, but since than my entire lower body has been very strong. I wouldn't recommend it regardless, you might die. But yea if you can start, weight lifting is a great way to get in shape, just learn to keep the form good and lift with friends if you can, its safer that way.[/QUOTE] 184kg deadlift? you are a machine.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25083531]Well you can be "safe" and do all the machines you want and never actually get anywhere respectable. Or you could not be a pussy, and just do the fucking free weights. But seriously, unless your doing something incredibly retarded, free weights are plenty safe. Just make sure you've got a spotter on the dangerous lifts like bench press if your going heavy. Free weights are infinitely better at any rate.[/QUOTE] not quite the answer i was looking for, but okay, thanks.
[QUOTE=BuG;25083704]Excuse me, how is creatine not worth it in the long run? About your "rep range", got any actual scientific proof? Because is it right that different amounts of reps do affect your muscles in different ways, scientists are still debating on this matter, which is why I find it very doubtful that you should have discovered the secret. [/QUOTE] Correct, your body doesn't know its supposed to do a certain function in a certain rep range. However the rep ranges are still a solid guideline. But as you start to get into more advanced stuff, you realize that there's so many fucking variables depending on what and how that it doesn't really matter. As a general rule though: Low reps - very heavy weight = lots of CNS stimulation (a.k.a "strength"), but not much hypertrophy gained. Moderate reps - heavy weight = strength and hypertrophy almost equally high reps - moderate weight = little strength gain, mostly hypertrophy. high reps - low weight = increased endurance of white fibers, some hypertrophy, little to no strength gains.
Me and my friend have been doing a strict routine for about 8 weeks now and I have noticed some substantial improvements (considering I havent done any gym work since I was in school) anyway im heaps happy with it, leg pressed 280kgs (620lbs) the other day 300kgs next mofos!!! here is a photo of the Protein shakes I take, its 50% carbs and 50% protein its what I need because I dont gain weight easy. [URL=http://img96.imageshack.us/i/stuffd.jpg/][IMG]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5681/stuffd.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Its good stuff, could taste better but no sacrifice no gain am I right? lol.
[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;25083776]184kg deadlift? you are a machine.[/QUOTE] Thank you sir. [editline]08:36AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Perfumly;25082208]What's your bodyweight, StormHammer?[/QUOTE] 200, when I first started I was aiming to lose a lot of weight but I ended up just losing a ton of body fat instead.
i found a photo of myself years ago wearing a retarded hat, so i thought i'd make a progress pic. "Before" was in 2008, i wasn't using the gym at all besides doing situps and lifting 9kg dumbells in my room from time to time. "After" is now, using the gym for 1 year, and just started going hard out the last few months. (the top pic in "after" is around 8 months old) [url]http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6827/beforenafter.png[/url] right now i really need to start gaining weight because i only weigh 63kg so i'm trying to eat as much protein as possible, which is really hard for me.
I've been into working out on and off throughout highschool, but it was too casual, I never did anything serious about pursuing it. Consequently I never got the results I was trying to achieve. Just started the third week of the P90x workout though and it's the hardest I've ever trained, it's so awesome. I'm not huge on building muscle or bodybuilding, just getting into shape. That's why I'm loving the P90x workout so much - it really includes everything, it's really well-rounded. I'm thinking by week 13 I'm going to be in the best shape of my life, no doubt. I dunno about you guys, but I work out to feel better about myself - both physically and for my self esteem. I unfortunately don't have any motivation through sports or anything, which makes it hard to stay in a routine. Right now I don't take any supplements or protein powder, although I'm considering some whey protein, I dunno. I worked out for 2 months straight, total of 24 gym sessions, back in April-June, and I didn't once use protein powder.
What about calisthenics and resistive workouts? I don't really have the time or means to go to an actual gym and don't have a full set of weights to work at home (and that bores me to be honest) so I do chinups and pullups every single day. I started about 2-3 years ago with 5 a day everyday (I had no muscle mass back then so even that was a challenge) now I do 21, again everyday. The longest I went without doing chinups would be around a week or so. I also eat very healthily (protein and not a lot of fat) so I have somewhat noticeble abs and pretty large pecs, biceps, triceps and lats. All the pull ups and chin ups also made me quite resilient. I can do vertical crosses on rings and while hanging from a pull up bar, can raise my legs up to my hands (180 degrees) without moving any other part of my body. I can also do two one handed pull ups on a good day. I am around 65 kgs and 1.78m. I also really feel energetic and happy after doing a routine. so what do you feel about pull ups, push up and similar exercises compared to weightlifting? And I really want to work my legs (quads especially) do you know any good workout tips other than squats?
Ugh, eating low fat is not healthy. Please stop following the popular media and reading information that is regurgitated from 50 years ago by people who had no fucking idea in the first place. Actually speaking on that, I find it hard to believe that it's 2010 and the public is still swallowing the terrible low-fat high carb diets that are systematically wrecking our health.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;25090054]Ugh, eating low fat is not healthy. Please stop following the popular media and reading information that is regurgitated from 50 years ago by people who had no fucking idea in the first place. Actually speaking on that, I find it hard to believe that it's 2010 and the public is still swallowing the terrible low-fat high carb diets that are systematically wrecking our health.[/QUOTE] No no you got me wrong and I wasn't able to explain what I meant. I meant low fat as in low in junk food like chips, fast food etc... I do eat them maybe once every two weeks but not constantly. Other than that I love a big juicy beef, with the fat (lard?) still attached and probably eat it several times a week.
Back from first session, worked biceps real hard and couldn't get to the free weights so my back didn't get as much work. Weights werent as good as i hoped them to be. Wide grip pulldowns, 5 sets of 10 reps, first 3 sets on 70 pounds, the other two 60 pounds. Dont know how its called but the machine where you put your chest against a rest and pull weight towards you with biceps and shoulders. also 5 sets of 70 pounds 10 reps each. Concentration curls, 4 sets of 10, only 10 pounds each, my hands were pretty much dying so i just used them to work them that extra bit. Wednesday i'm gonna do the back and triceps, hopefully will be able to use the free weights because machines suck, especially with so little control over the muscle groups you work.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;25082237]throwdown [editline]04:44AM[/editline] firerain if you're so super smart and apparently know everything please educated me with your all knowingness why the 2 day split is bad [editline]05:01AM[/editline] please [editline]05:03AM[/editline] oh and all you skinny guys in this thread, make sure you're eating enough. there's no use working out then complaining you're not getting any bigger if you weigh 120 and eat 2000 calories a day. Start eating more, and more often. Bulk bulk bulk[/QUOTE] oh sorry i thought you were saying that the 2 day split is bad lol i misread your post i think 2 day splits are fine, can work out twice a week and still get gains
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