[QUOTE=Maucer;27233557]I was going to post an old pic for comparison, but couldn't find any good ones. But I've managed to achieve this (mostly) at home, without nutrients, without changing my eating habits and being really lazy and I may have had a month of doing nothing. And I went to gym only around 10-15 times during the last year. I bought a 65kg barbell before chrismas and before that I only did bodyweight exercises and ran. But I'm quite satisfied with my results !
The lighting does highlight the picture quite alot though, and I couldn't get a proper picture of my back with my phone. And I'm not taking my jeans off so that you could fap and I could show my legs, they are a little behind anyway.
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I'm starting a gym routine this week, and I'm going to try to eat better and more. Wish me luck ![/QUOTE]
nice defs see a lot of progress, if you step up the nutrition and workout regularly you`ll get really good results, keep trying!
[QUOTE=ItWasNiceToKnow;27241698]And what kind of " rotation " should I do?
I want to train abs, shoulders and arms mainly.[/QUOTE]
So do you want to go for more of a bartender look? (working just upper body)
[QUOTE=TravisG;27238600]Everyone here seems to have some ideal weight. I really don't care at all how much I weigh, I'm basing all my advancements by what I see. I don't want to weight much at all, but I wouldn't mind if its muscle. I should probably change my diet though, I am still in "weight loss mode" so I barely eat anything and do miles and miles of cardio a day because I used to be pretty big.[/QUOTE]
yeah the only reason I`m tracking my weight is because really, until you get to 180 pounds for my height, no one ever has looked as big as I want to be until they are that weight
[QUOTE=TravisG;27238600]Everyone here seems to have some ideal weight. I really don't care at all how much I weigh, I'm basing all my advancements by what I see. I don't want to weight much at all, but I wouldn't mind if its muscle. I should probably change my diet though, I am still in "weight loss mode" so I barely eat anything and do miles and miles of cardio a day because I used to be pretty big.[/QUOTE]
Well i'm wanting to be that weight in muscle. And yeah you can eat healthy but you just need to make sure you give your body enough energy to become stronger
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27234731]Man I need to cut my carbs down big time.
For breakfast I have 2 slices of bread (normally white) and 2 scrambled eggs (no milk or butter), sometimes soft boiled eggs.
For lunch I have a fairly large portion of chicken / tuna + pasta in plain tomato and basil sauce.
At night I normally eat pretty healthy but potatoes can often be included.
Think I'll swap my morning bread for wholemeal, I prefer brown bread anyways and for lunch I'll make a big batch of Chicken stir fry but instead of noodles use brown rice, should keep the carbs down and protein up.[/QUOTE]
dude just have egg whites if you want to cut down carbs, everything else seems pretty low in carbs,but why the sudden urge to cut down carbs?
[editline]6th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=NotMeh;27234805]I love training my forearms.
Easiest bodypart.[/QUOTE]
the pump I get in forearms is CRAZY, feels like a clamp on my arms lol
i love the feeling after a good forearm work out where you feel like you can't close your hand and if you try to hold something it's a complete disaster
[QUOTE=Binsky;27243019]i love the feeling after a good forearm work out where you feel like you can't close your hand and if you try to hold something it's a complete disaster[/QUOTE]
or leg workout...and then you can`t walk, lol
How important would you all say protein shakes/supplements of that sort are to building muscle? I've been going to the gym on a more rigid schedule again like I used to and I want to make sure it's time well spent.
[QUOTE=Canesfan;27243800]How important would you all say protein shakes/supplements of that sort are to building muscle? I've been going to the gym on a more rigid schedule again like I used to and I want to make sure it's time well spent.[/QUOTE]
they`re not as important as some people make them out to be, but they sure do help. you`re definitely not wasting your time if you workout without protein.
[QUOTE=Canesfan;27243800]How important would you all say protein shakes/supplements of that sort are to building muscle? I've been going to the gym on a more rigid schedule again like I used to and I want to make sure it's time well spent.[/QUOTE]
Like V said they're not crazy important. I just started using whey less than a week ago and i've seen plenty of progress just by eating right. The only reason i've decided to use supplements was because weight-wise i have kind of plateaued
Binsky what do you recommend to do to pack on mass on shoulders/chest/lats asap.
I'm going to be shirtless a lot in summer and I don't want to look like a raging homosex.
[editline]7th January 2011[/editline]
Even if it means turning into a curlbro I'll do it.
I've been planning my future nutrition without protein powder, how does this sound and are the figures correct?
Daily intake:
2 eggs 150cal
85g of bacon 400 cal
150grams of brown macaroni 530 cal
375g of mince beef 800 cal
250g carrot 100 cal
2 bananas 300 cal
60g of cashew nuts 300 cal
1 can of smashed tomato 160 cal
1l milk 260 cal
total 3000 cals
Would there be something wrong with this and what should I change?
[QUOTE=Perfumly;27251091]Binsky what do you recommend to do to pack on mass on shoulders/chest/lats asap.
I'm going to be shirtless a lot in summer and I don't want to look like a raging homosex.
[editline]7th January 2011[/editline]
Even if it means turning into a curlbro I'll do it.[/QUOTE]
I'd recommend doing a lot of power cleans, bench, incline bench, standing rows, shoulder raises, shoulder shrugs, arnold press, etc. stuff you're probably already doing. I don't really think there's too much of a quick fix. I read something like the human body on average only gain like one pound of muscle a week. Just keep working and on the desired muscles try to push yourself more than usual.
Also, i know you may or may not be able to but rock climbing is really great for everything (especially back, shoulders, bi's and forearms.) Indoor climbing is just as good as outdoor.
[editline]6th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27251203]I've been planning my future nutrition without protein powder, how does this sound and are the figures correct?
Daily intake:
2 eggs 150cal
85g of bacon 400 cal
150grams of brown macaroni 530 cal
375g of mince beef 800 cal
250g carrot 100 cal
2 bananas 300 cal
60g of cashew nuts 300 cal
1 can of smashed tomato 160 cal
1l milk 260 cal
total 3000 cals
Would there be something wrong with this and what should I change?[/QUOTE]
i see nothing wrong with it necessarily. What exactly are you trying to accomplish, though?
Yeah unfortunately I cannot indoor rock climb. What do you recommend for clean calorie dense foods? I want to start eating healthy again because junk food makes me feel like shit now.
And peanut butter is out of the question, it makes me vomit. (However peanuts do not)
Well, I'm trying to achieve such a state that my muscles get enough building material to grow, yet I'd still lose a pound a week or so like so far.
How about my workout outline I posted last page? Is it fine or am I missing something?
[QUOTE=Perfumly;27251303]Yeah unfortunately I cannot indoor rock climb. What do you recommend for clean calorie dense foods? I want to start eating healthy again because junk food makes me feel like shit now.
And peanut butter is out of the question, it makes me vomit. (However peanuts do not)[/QUOTE]
basically become a hippie. Eat trail mix and fruit. Lots of blue berries, bananas, lentils, eggs, beans, asparagus, spinach, white meat, etc.
Sounds good. Really I'm only focusing on upper body strength and mass gain right now because I am disproportionate. What would you recommend I do to keep my legs maintained while keeping my main focus on upper body mass gain?
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27233010]After this p90x program I'm going to just plant something on paper and follow those so that I don't have to move my TV every time I want to do my excercises.
I've been thinking something along these lines:
Mon: Biceps, Triceps, Shoulders, Abs
Tue: P90X Stretch
Wed: Chest, Back, Abs
Thu: P90X Yoga
Fri: Legs, Abs
Sat: P90X Stretch
Sun: nothing
Am I missing something there?[/QUOTE]
i don't quite know what p90x is like so i can't really have input there. However, i don't like your monday, it's too much and it's kind of random to have bi's in there. Maybe you should switch bi's with chest.
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27251331]Well, I'm trying to achieve such a state that my muscles get enough building material to grow, yet I'd still lose a pound a week or so like so far.
How about my workout outline I posted last page? Is it fine or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]
Your muscles will not grow on a calorie deficit. You can make strength gains but you will not make muscle mass while losing fat.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;27251401]Sounds good. Really I'm only focusing on upper body strength and mass gain right now because I am disproportionate. What would you recommend I do to keep my legs maintained while keeping my main focus on upper body mass gain?[/QUOTE]
probably just stay on the weights you've been doing for legs. Try to focus on form and high reps.
[editline]6th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Perfumly;27251411]Your muscles will not grow on a calorie deficit. You can make strength gains but you will not make muscle mass while losing fat.[/QUOTE]
i agree with the first part. Fat will begin to be replaced by muscle so you are still losing fat, though, i think i know what you meant
???
I've been eating those 3000 calories for a bit over 2 months (protein powder instead of bacon and eggs but otherwise the same) and I've lost 5-7 kgs (11-15 pounds) in weigh while I've gained around 2 kgs (4,5lbs) of muscle, so surely it isn't impossible to lose weigh while gaining a little something? I'm not trying to become a hulk, nor even muscular, I'm trying to lose weigh and become "normal" in strength. I'm WEAK. I've always been. I'm a nerd with a uppercase N.
EDIT: and why would biceps be random with shoulder and triceps? Biceps and triceps are the countering muscles as far as I know, so shouldn't they be excercised on the same day? Why would chest workout have much to do with triceps and shoulders?
When you first starting working out you get miracles like that then it kindof slows down a bit.
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27251578]???
I've been eating those 3000 calories for a bit over 2 months (protein powder instead of bacon and eggs but otherwise the same) and I've lost 5-7 kgs (11-15 pounds) in weigh while I've gained around 2 kgs (4,5lbs) of muscle, so surely it isn't impossible to lose weigh while gaining a little something? I'm not trying to become a hulk, nor even muscular, I'm trying to lose weigh and become "normal" in strength. I'm WEAK. I've always been. I'm a nerd with a uppercase N.
EDIT: and why would biceps be random with shoulder and triceps? Biceps and triceps are the countering muscles as far as I know, so shouldn't they be excercised on the same day? Why would chest workout have much to do with triceps and shoulders?[/QUOTE]
If you're overweight than your body can take from the fat "storage" and process that into muscle too.
[QUOTE=Binsky;27251624]If you're overweight than your body can take from the fat "storage" and process that into muscle too.[/QUOTE]
Does that actually happen? Always sounded pretty brosciency to me.
I don't think fat turns into muscle? Wouldn't it just give me energy?
Oh yeah, I'm definitely overweigh, having a fat% of 38 or so.
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27251652]I don't think fat turns into muscle? Wouldn't it just give me energy?
Oh yeah, I'm definitely overweigh, having a fat% of 38 or so.[/QUOTE]
it doesn't turn into muscle it turns into energy like you said which can be used to make muscle
But I still need the building blocks of protein. But wait, why are we even talking about this :P?
Because this is the weightlifting/bodybuilding thread.
[QUOTE=Major Helper;27251709]But I still need the building blocks of protein. But wait, why are we even talking about this :P?[/QUOTE]
exactly. The fat burning is more to give you the energy to do the work outs and the protein is to help repair the torn tissue
I know that, I still want to know why you even said the fat burning thing in the beginning, I kind of missed the point.
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