Community Moderated Forums Idea - General

I prefer moderators; they rarely ban for personal reasons anyways, and every time one has it's caused a massive shit storm. That usually ends in them being disciplined for it. I could understand a want for this if moderators were voted like when Hezzy ran things; but as of now Garry only chooses people he knows are suitable for the job, which prevents a lot of shitty in-n-out moderators.

It's very democratic, but I think that rulebreakers wouldn't be dealt with quickly enough if people had to vote on each decision.

people would just ban people for the hell of it. they would vote ban without really caring. but it's better then what we got now

People would voteban people with different opinions.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33787761]one user proposes one week ban then Person A will be banned for 24 hours.[/QUOTE] So I could just run around and ban everyone? Also, learn to spell [i]racist[/i].

Unpopular members would receive unbalanced bans. Not thinking of anyone in particular.

consider current gold members now think about them having free reign over your account's future

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[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33788321]That thought has crossed my mind. No moderators at all would probably be a bad idea but many issues can be solved without moderators. Mass spam could easily be restricted by allowing users to only send a limited amount of posts for review per day. Let's say that for every 500 posts on the forum you can send one post for a review per day. I figure that you still need moderators to make sure the forum is kept around general guidelines (no CP for example).[/QUOTE] That wouldn't help. That would make spamming easier, because not all of the cases could be reported.

[QUOTE=postal;33788247]So no moderators at all? What happens when you get lots of people spamming the forums or tons of spambots and you have to sit there and wait for the entire community to review each case before something can be done? Maybe this'd work for a small forum, but not a big forum. Sometimes shit needs to get done fast.[/QUOTE] Not just about the speed, usually moderators are picked because they're competent and know when to ban people or not. This system would be so easy to abuse it's not even funny. Gonna corrupt facepunch man.

What's the point of a community when everyone are just going to pick on the people with different opinons. I'm speaking of people like Glaber. He's not breaking any rules, but would probably get banned just because of his opinion.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;33796577]This system would be so easy to abuse it's not even funny. [B] Gonna corrupt facepunch man.[/B][/QUOTE] What does it have to do with Facepunch? [editline]19th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Swebonny;33796839]What's the point of a community when everyone are just going to pick on the people with different opinons. I'm speaking of people like Glaber. He's not breaking any rules, but would probably get banned just because of his opinion.[/QUOTE] That's kind of the point. To establish and give a free ground to a community with specific ideals. For example, if the community will mostly consist of Pro-Apple users then it's most likely that everyone against Apple will be banned, further reinforcing the community ideals on that forum.

The problem: People are fucking stupid. The solution: ??? The forums can be wrecked by bandwagons. For example, if a group X hates everything related to group Y, they could mass vote and get all of the Y group banned. Also you could just have a bunch of new people register and just randomly ban everyone.

[QUOTE=Conro101;33791031]consider current gold members now think about them having free reign over your account's future[/QUOTE] That [B]could[/B] work back when Gold Member status were awarded to significant posters. Now you just need to have a high enough post count and had a user for a set amount of years. Thus lowering the Gold member status drastically.

[QUOTE=Van-man;33798106]That [B]could[/B] work back when Gold Member status were awarded to significant posters. Now you just need to have a high enough post count and had a user for a set amount of years. Thus lowering the Gold member status drastically.[/QUOTE] Not to mention people can just buy it, removing any status it had completely.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33797969] That's kind of the point. To establish and give a free ground to a community with specific ideals. For example, if the community will mostly consist of Pro-Apple users then it's most likely that everyone against Apple will be banned, further reinforcing the community ideals on that forum.[/QUOTE] that would be terrible

[QUOTE=Juniez;33798360]that would be terrible[/QUOTE] Because?

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33797969] That's kind of the point. To establish and give a free ground to a community with specific ideals. For example, if the community will mostly consist of Pro-Apple users then it's most likely that everyone against Apple will be banned, further reinforcing the community ideals on that forum.[/QUOTE] A forum should be free for anyone. That's what I like about Facepunch. It'd suck if the internet consisted of closed forums consisting of circle-jerking members. Your idea applies better in games or some real life community/village.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;33798518]A forum should be free for anyone. That's what I like about Facepunch. It'd suck if the internet consisted of closed forums consisting of circle-jerking members. Your idea applies better in games or some real life community/village.[/QUOTE] Every forum is full of circle jerking, Facepunch is not an exception either. If I say that MacBooks are awesome somewhere else than Apple subforum I'll get boxed to hell. Though I agree, my system is not well suited for a normal forum.

Don't worry about ratings, they don't mean shit. [editline]19th December 2011[/editline] Fucking snowflakes blocking my reply button

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33787813]Retarded ban propositions wouldn't get accepted, since most users wouldn't find them ban worthy. If a user will spam ban propositions then it would surely annoy other users and they would decide to ban him in turn.[/QUOTE] You highly underestimate facepunch.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;33799388]You highly underestimate facepunch.[/QUOTE] What does Facepunch have to do with it?

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33799552]What does Facepunch have to do with it?[/QUOTE] There would be tons of stupid ban propositions.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;33799955]There would be tons of stupid ban propositions.[/QUOTE] If you implement this on Facepunch? Probably, but I never suggested that.

[QUOTE=SnowCanary;33788301]A mix of both moderators and users would be good.[/QUOTE] Which is what we have got now. Report and move on.

Sounds slow as fuck. It's SO much easier to get a couple good members and make them moderators, just like what happened here last October.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33788277]The core idea behind this system is to remove the subjectivity factor that comes with having moderators. It's up to one person to ban someone and that can get messy, we've all heard "He banned me just because he didn't like me." and sometimes it's true. I feel that my system allow community to dictate it's rules. If majority of the community thinks that saying "lol uamd?" is ban worthy then so be it. The community dictates the forum rules, not the other way around.[/QUOTE] That's why you have moderator>supermod>admin hierarchies in a lot of cases. Believe a mod did something subjective. Appeal to him first, if that gives you nothing go further up the chain. And in most forums if there's a questionable issue, most mods tend to debate it between themselves.

Give smartness back

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33799113]Every forum is full of circle jerking, Facepunch is not an exception either. If I say that MacBooks are awesome somewhere else than Apple subforum I'll get boxed to hell. Though I agree, my system is not well suited for a normal forum.[/QUOTE] You get boxed to hell, but you won't get banned.

how about no moderation I get banned if I disagree with the moderator anyway...