The map is too large in V for the car controls of IV to work
It would take way too long to get anywhere, there's also the fact that I want to drive super fast super cars rather than a fucking shopping cart full of rocks
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;43341374]The map is too large in V for the car controls of IV to work
It would take way too long to get anywhere, there's also the fact that I want to drive super fast super cars rather than a fucking shopping cart full of rocks[/QUOTE]
Cars in GTAIV are limited to 130-200kph, and the top end ones should be able to achieve far more than that. The maximum speed possible is only 287kph, which is 60khp less than what a real life Infernus could do.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43338013]Hardly.[/QUOTE]
You should take a look at the ridiculous number of handling.dat edits that already exist for GTAIV. It might not be mass market material (and it isn't), but there is a huge audience that still wants realistic driving. One of the few things Mafia 2 got right was having a toggle in the options menu.
[QUOTE=Squeegy Mackoy;43342260]You should take a look at the ridiculous number of handling.dat edits that already exist for GTAIV. It might not be mass market material (and it isn't), but there is a huge audience that still wants realistic driving. One of the few things Mafia 2 got right was having a toggle in the options menu.[/QUOTE]There are also plenty that made the handling like it is in GTA V. There are also plenty that make the cars fucking accelerate to warp speed and pass through objects and spaz out the second they move. It doesn't mean dicks.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43342402]There are also plenty that made the handling like it is in GTA V. There are also plenty that make the cars fucking accelerate to warp speed and pass through objects and spaz out the second they move. It doesn't mean dicks.[/QUOTE]I'm referring to the ones that call themselves realistic.
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[QUOTE=Juniez;43337633]realistic driving is not fun and it just makes the chase sequences much more frustrating than it should be.[/QUOTE]
You can go as slow as molasses and not lose your targets because they slow down for you. Trying to stay as close as possible only makes it harder for you, because the enemy car speeds up regardless of its top speed in order to stay ahead of you. All the location specific chases have the target car on rails, this is identical for GTAIV and GTAV. The target car is kinematic and has infinite mass, if you manage to obstruct it somehow (really hard because it warps away from you if you get too close), then they plow through anything and can catapult buses across the world. It only isn't like this when the target car is supposed to be hunted down and killed (like [sp]your therapist[/sp]), the car is just driven by an evading AI, which is usually more clumsy than any human driver and relatively easy to catch.
Speaking of realistic handling mods, it's quite ironic how the mods make the cars more like GTA V than IV handling, especially the fact that cars don't have a ton of wheel slip and actually corner like in real life.
[video=youtube;iQnCjGiPFnc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQnCjGiPFnc[/video]
There's this video too. It covers a bit more things
The fun and satisfaction you can get from mastering GTA IV's handling way surpasses the one you could ever get from the plug-and-drive GTA V one. I suppose that after actually mastering GTA IV, GTA V is just too much of a downgrade. It really makes driving a bore and gives you the feeling of wasted potential when looking at the more diverse map.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43335895]Or people who like to have cars that are somewhat controllable and don't flip around like a leaf in a tornado if you take a corner at more than 35 mph. Especially in a game involving a lot of driving and highspeed maneuvers.[/QUOTE]
wow I have to learn to drive cars in a driving game what is this I'm so confused what's a handbreak
also V's driving is really awful. San Andreas' driving is more realistic lmao
[QUOTE=Kannata;43345728][video=youtube;iQnCjGiPFnc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQnCjGiPFnc[/video]
There's this video too. It covers a bit more things[/QUOTE]
That was terrible
[QUOTE=a-k-t-w;43350398]wow I have to learn to drive cars in a driving game what is this I'm so confused what's a handbreak
also V's driving is really awful. San Andreas' driving is more realistic lmao[/QUOTE]You shit post every time GTA V is brought up. About literally every single aspect. I'm pretty sure you got laughed out of the GTA GGD thread. You even made shit up in that thread and got called hard on it, so don't act smug.
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[QUOTE=proch;43350233]The fun and satisfaction you can get from mastering GTA IV's handling way surpasses the one you could ever get from the plug-and-drive GTA V one. I suppose that after actually mastering GTA IV, GTA V is just too much of a downgrade. It really makes driving a bore and gives you the feeling of wasted potential when looking at the more diverse map.[/QUOTE]Not really, there was no fun from mastering it. I can drive fine in GTA IV but that doesn't make it GOOD. It's a good game in spite of its awful vehicle handling, not because of it.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43350716]You shit post every time GTA V is brought up. About literally every single aspect. I'm pretty sure you got laughed out of the GTA GGD thread. You even made shit up in that thread and got called hard on it, so don't act smug.
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Not really, there was no fun from mastering it. I can drive fine in GTA IV but that doesn't make it GOOD. It's a good game in spite of its awful vehicle handling, not because of it.[/QUOTE]
yous took what I said wrong, making it sounds like I was saying IVs driving is exactly like real life and shit, not my fault
I'm not the best at getting my ideas across ok
stop being so mad lol
I don't get why people complain so much about GTA IV's cars, I thought they were just fine for the most part.
Now, GTA SA's cars on the other hand, holy balls are they bad.
Attention to detail? There's no turning lights in V, how do you call that detail?
If you've damaged your dashboard in IV, the GPS would tell you the wrong directions.
I'm not gonna lie, I've never been a huge fan of any GTA games but this is just too impressive.
It's crazy how improved the driving physics are in V compared to IV and SA.
In IV, it took a good while just to learn how to break and turn properly without losing too much speed, which was fine when you got that down.
In SA, every car controlled like a fully-loaded limousine no matter what.
It's way more streamlined in V.
One thing I didn't like about the cars in V is the visual destruction, the cars damaged much less than in IV. I can hit a car really hard and it will look almost new, in IV the car would be fucked. It might be because I have IV on my PC and can max it out and have V on PS3.
[QUOTE=LurkerOfPeace;43357035]One thing I didn't like about the cars in V is the visual destruction, the cars damaged much less than in IV. I can hit a car really hard and it will look almost new, in IV the car would be fucked. It might be because I have IV on my PC and can max it out and have V on PS3.[/QUOTE]
No, they toned down destruction so it would be more enjoyable gameplay-wise, just like mid-air controls and flipping your car. What Rockstar thought: "It would kinda suck to lose your fancy paid for speed-car because of a slight bump."
But while I like the car flipping and mid-air controls, I would really like to have the IV damage models back, because I prefer wrecking my cars. You can still really total your car in V, but it takes a LOT more. I squished my car between a train and a pole and it got completely squished.
[QUOTE=mac338;43357386]No, they toned down destruction so it would be more enjoyable gameplay-wise, just like mid-air controls and flipping your car. What Rockstar thought: "It would kinda suck to lose your fancy paid for speed-car because of a slight bump."
But while I like the car flipping and mid-air controls, I would really like to have the IV damage models back, because I prefer wrecking my cars.[/QUOTE]
Quite the opposite in my experience. Visual damage was toned down but cars get destroyed much easier otherwise. I constantly lose cars because one of the tires gets stuck even though there's barely any visual damage. The same thing can happen in IV, but not nearly as often. In IV you could smash your cars up so badly that your character is clipping out of the car and they still worked fine.
Yeah, I meant visual dents and such, not the damage itself. Its much easier to fuck up a wheel in V, if you hit something on the side with a little speed your wheel goes out of alignment.
[QUOTE=mac338;43357386]No, they toned down destruction so it would be more enjoyable gameplay-wise, just like mid-air controls and flipping your car. What Rockstar thought: "It would kinda suck to lose your fancy paid for speed-car because of a slight bump."
But while I like the car flipping and mid-air controls, I would really like to have the IV damage models back, because I prefer wrecking my cars. You can still really total your car in V, but it takes a LOT more. I squished my car between a train and a pole and it got completely squished.[/QUOTE]There's some interesting logic applied to the damage system this time around. Overall the deformation is turned way down, but if your car has a collision mid air or upside down, it deals several times more visual damage than it normally does and randomly chooses detachable parts to come off. If you hit another car at high speeds it also deals minimal/zero damage to your front. I don't know what the exact criteria is for it but it tries not to punish you for what it thinks are 'accidental' crashes, and then drastically enhances the spectacular, seemingly-on-purpose ones. If you fall a short distance in a car and land squarely on the roof or nose it will explode instantly. If you jump out of a car as it's flying through the air it will also explode instantly on landing.
You can also detach wheels of other cars if you hit them in the fender hard enough. The damage dealt to other cars and their drivers increases with your driving skill.
I remember being impressed that you could vomit in GTA SA
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43350716]
Not really, there was no fun from mastering it. I can drive fine in GTA IV but that doesn't make it GOOD. It's a good game in spite of its awful vehicle handling, not because of it.[/QUOTE]
I can assure you there is. The handling is fantastic, one of the better aspects of the game anyway.
In the end it is a matter of opinion though.
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