• Women Should be Required to Register for the Selective Service Draft
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Whilst I agree with having female soldiers, this "Selective Service Draft" sounds like conscription to me.
I agree with women being required to apply for selective draft. I also think countries who have required military service for men should also make it a requirement for women as it promotes gender equality.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;39422479]i go with yes but i don't support the draft. there's always this constant back and forth bullshitted argument coming from both sides. and i cannot begin to describe how much feminism pisses me off... well the kind of feminism that's blind and fascist. i see woman equal to man. my preconceptions about people are never formed upon skin tone, facial structure, gender or anything like that. i see people as people, nothing more, nothing less. so when i see facebook feed posts by girls complaining about cat calling and double standards i have to grit my teeth and keep myself from commenting "look at it from our side too honey, nobody has it all roses". the worst part is that these girls (mostly, i don't think you could really call my age group adults even though we technically are) are so for chivalry and all that bull shit. i know i'm probably sounding a bit ignorant and sexist but in the end it all boils down to some end of a joke i heard. why is it women and children first? the women should all be up at the top of the capsizing boat with the men while the violinist plays. that's the day i can really feel as though women are seen as equal. but the whole "women are softer" bullshit is perpetuated by both men and women. even by women who may think they're against it, IE: hypocrites. all of this is really deeply engrained into our society and i find it quite disgusting. also i've seen many military documentaries and was pretty disgusted whenever the narrator would say that a unit is men only. they'd always say it like it wasn't for pansies, so they might as well have said "no bitches in this unit son". women can be just as tough as men.[/QUOTE] I understand what you mean, as I read it somewhere once... Feminism: The promotion of equality by focusing on only one gender's problems. Yet this debate isn't technically about Feminism. I also more or less do not support the draft as I don't envision a scenario where the war would be vital enough to need one and wouldn't have enough willing men and women. [editline]2nd February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=laserguided;39444891]I agree with women being required to apply for selective draft. I also think countries who have required military service for men should also make it a requirement for women as it promotes gender equality.[/QUOTE] I agree with you, which is surprising as you are laserguided.
[QUOTE=sofi;39441320]also, men do not have to put up with nearly as much shit as women do, i'm afraid.[/QUOTE] ...no, no they do.
[QUOTE=ironman17;39441369]Whilst I agree with having female soldiers, this "Selective Service Draft" sounds like conscription to me.[/QUOTE] It is but it is legal as decied in United States Supreme Court of Appeals. Arver v. United States. Grahl v. Same. Wangerin v. Same (Two Cases). Kramer v. Same. Graubard v. Same. [url]https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/245/245.US.366.663.664.665.666.681.html[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States[/url]
[QUOTE=peabrain101;39386635]Well given that women are now allowed to serve in combat roles in the military, yes they should also be required to be registered for the draft. However I do not believe a draft should exist. But that is a different argument that should stay out of this thread.[/QUOTE] I fully believe in equality (in the actual meaning of equality, as in, men and women should not be treated any differently at all). But I see drafting as an even much more important issue than equality, and as such, I think drafting women would make the general situation even worse. No one should be drafted, and not drafting women is especially unfair to men, but drafting women will not serve any civil rights, just violate the ones of another whole gender. [QUOTE=FoodStuffs;39422479]all of this is really deeply engrained into our society and i find it quite disgusting. also i've seen many military documentaries and was pretty disgusted whenever the narrator would say that a unit is men only. they'd always say it like it wasn't for pansies, so they might as well have said "no bitches in this unit son". women can be just as tough as men.[/QUOTE] this, the worst part is that society keeps supporting it, making people conform to their gender roles
Nice to see the MRAs coming out of the woodwork.
[QUOTE=smurfy;39420677]Of course they should, but I wonder how they'd bring it in. Signing up like 100 million people at once would be a massive undertaking[/QUOTE] Registration would probably be done by date of birth. People born in 1989 might have to register by January 2014, those born in 1990 by February 2014, etc.
[QUOTE=Flameon;39422234]If we accept that sexual discrimination is ongoing in America then it would be unjust to force women to fight for a country that sexually discriminates against them.[/QUOTE] Racial discrimination exists as well, so why are non-whites drafted too?
yeah seriously you ever heard of the tuskegee airmen? bunch of badass black pilots who fought for their country even though their country hated them, ANYWAY!!! or pretty much every african american regiment during WW2. [editline]17th February 2013[/editline] everyone has it equally as bad. just if you happen to be a white male you have an edge over everyone else just because of that. but trust me, that edge is rapidly declining to the point where i'd say there are coming to be enough situations where it's not great to be a white male. [editline]17th February 2013[/editline] and we're not going from number one to number two they're going to hold us down and fuck us in the ass forever, and we deserve it. but until then, WEEEEEE!!!
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