• A message from Lucas Molyneux to Valve
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[QUOTE=Asrue2;25000620]Probably, but Gabe and Chet are nice enough to take time to record a reply.[/QUOTE] Gabe should record one of his own kids for the reply.
That was cute.
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So, a kid is a fan of Valve and you are a being a bunch of assholes again? I totally expected that.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;25001756]So, a kid is a fan of Valve and you are a being a bunch of assholes again? I totally expected that.[/QUOTE] So, you didn't read the thread again? I totally expected that.
already posted [editline]05:50PM[/editline] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1005105[/url]
[QUOTE=Teh_Medic;25002527]already posted [editline]05:50PM[/editline] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1005105[/url][/QUOTE] They are in different sub-forums, so why does it matter? Also, mine was posted later.
[QUOTE=Noth;24998048]Kid isn't even old enough to play Minesweeper, let alone Half Life[/QUOTE] Shutup
Dino 4x4 SAFARI Don't fuck with this kid
Shit. It's fucking Milo.
That kid's shirt is awesome
yes molyneux, use your children maybe if you distract the people long enough they won't realize that at the end of five years Valve has a game that delivers in every way, whereas at the end of two you have a steaming pile of pig shit that does half of what you said it would and does it half as well. But still, god damn that was cute. :3:
Isn't he a bit young to be playing Half-Life?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25005807]Isn't he a bit young to be playing Half-Life?[/QUOTE] If any gamer of any age likes the Half-Life series and thinks it's a great/good game series, I really wouldn't care how old they were.
[QUOTE=MrAfroShark70;25006071]If any gamer of any age likes the Half-Life series and thinks it's a great/good game series, I really wouldn't care how old they were.[/QUOTE] Except it's incredibly violent, I personally don't believe someone so young should be exposed to that much violence.
I want that shirt, but adult sized. Dinosaurs on 4x4's? Fuck yes.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25006236]Except it's incredibly violent, I personally don't believe someone so young should be exposed to that much violence.[/QUOTE] lol, implying kids aren't already exposed to violence with mainstream first-person shooters, the media and peers. And if you want to make a point, you need to provide arguments, which you didn't. [editline]05:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;25005807]Isn't he a bit young to be playing Half-Life?[/QUOTE] I played Prince of Persia where you get impaled on spikes and cut in half by weird saw-doors, and Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards, which is a porn game, when I was eight, if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=Tabarnaco;25006673]lol, implying kids aren't already exposed to violence with mainstream first-person shooters, the media and peers. And if you want to make a point, you need to provide arguments, which you didn't.[/QUOTE] I provided my argument. Young children shouldn't be exposed to excessive violence. Being exposed to violence affects a young child negatively. [editline]09:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tabarnaco;25006673] I played Prince of Persia where you get impaled on spikes and cut in half by weird saw-doors, and Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards, which is a porn game, when I was eight, if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE] Again, I probably wouldn't let my own child play either of those games.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25006741]I provided my argument. Young children shouldn't be exposed to excessive violence. Being exposed to violence affects a young child negatively. [editline]09:08PM[/editline] Again, I probably wouldn't let my own child play either of those games.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking serious? Oh my god, you sound like a mother against video games, "It affects children negatively." Look at the news and tell me the world DOESN'T affect children negatively.
That's not an argument, because there are no premises/reasons for that judgment.
[QUOTE=MrAfroShark70;25006824]Are you fucking serious? Oh my god, you sound like a mother against video games, "It affects children negatively." Look at the news and tell me the world DOESN'T affect children negatively.[/QUOTE] I watch the news. That does nothing at all to refute my argument. [editline]09:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tabarnaco;25006874]That's not an argument, because there are no premises/reasons for that judgment.[/QUOTE] I already said the reason. It affects a child negatively. Do I need to draw you a diagram?
If Valve is not going to listen to the 700+ diehard Half-Life fans who've been with Valve since the beginning, they are not going to listen to this kid.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25006879]I watch the news. That does nothing at all to refute my argument.[/QUOTE] Ok then, apparently you're as blind as a fucking bat, or just can't see the harsh reality of the world. I really don't need an argument to tell you, that the world is a fucked up place, and I think one game won't cause a child to go Rambo in school.
[QUOTE=MrAfroShark70;25006969]Ok then, apparently you're as blind as a fucking bat, or just can't see the harsh reality of the world. I really don't need an argument to tell you, that the world is a fucked up place, and I think one game won't cause a child to go Rambo in school.[/QUOTE] Again, that has nothing to do with my argument at all. You just started drawing fake connections. I know the world is a harsh place, that has no bearing on whether a kid should play violent video games.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25006879]I watch the news. That does nothing at all to refute my argument.[/quote] The news show the most extreme/attention-grasping stories they can find, which are definitely not representative of the effects of video games on anybody. [QUOTE=yawmwen;25006879]I already said the reason. It affects a child negatively. Do I need to draw you a diagram?[/QUOTE] Except that's not a premise, because you just grabbed that notion out of fucking nowhere. You have no substantial proof for your claims. You don't know what you're talking about, so you just believe lies or spin because you want to.
[QUOTE=Tabarnaco;25007019]The news show the most extreme/attention-grasping stories they can find, which are definitely not representative of the effects of video games on anybody.[/quote] I never said anything about that. You are now making false assumptions on what I believe. [quote]Except that's not a premise, because you just grabbed that notion out of fucking nowhere. You have no substantial proof for your claims.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.psychology.iastate.edu/faculty/caa/abstracts/2000-2004/01ab.pdf[/url] [quote]Research on exposure to television and movie violence suggests that playing violent video games will increase aggressive behavior. A metaanalytic review of the video-game research literature reveals that violent video games increase aggressive behavior in children and young adults. Experimental and nonexperimental studies with males and females in laboratory and field settings support this conclusion. Analyses also reveal that exposure to violent video games increases physiological arousal and aggression-related thoughts and feelings. Playing violent video games also decreases prosocial behavior.[/quote]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25007013]Again, that has nothing to do with my argument at all. You just started drawing fake connections. I know the world is a harsh place, that has no bearing on whether a kid should play violent video games.[/QUOTE] The point I'm trying to get across to you is this, video games do not harm children. They can in very rare cases, but in most cases, they will not. You would have a better chance of a news broadcast harming a children's perspective of the world and life, than a video game that is fictional.
[QUOTE=usaokay;25007120]I played GTA2 when I was about 4-6 years old and it never affected me and those around me. Hell, I first played HL2 when I was about 12 years old.[/QUOTE] How do you know? I'm not saying it will turn you into a school shooter or violent person, but there is a strong connection between violent media and violent behavior. Just because it didn't affect you(which may or may not be true, I don't know you) doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect on other people.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;25007106][url]http://www.psychology.iastate.edu/faculty/caa/abstracts/2000-2004/01ab.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] It's better, but I want to know what studies those are, and "experimental studies" aren't very convincing. And I want numbers. This alone is not good evidence, as it merely claims that other studies revealed that information. It's too vague, there are no statistics, nothing. And, of course, there are ways to calculate such information to make it work in one's favour.
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