The film was visually stunning and I love how they developed the characters in such a small amount of time.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;28852397]Good watch but you'd think robots would have a built in deactivation chip and plenty of fail safes to prevent harm to humans.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, Asimov was ahead of the curve on that one. The only thing you need to worry about with a robot following the Three Laws of Robotics is if it develops the Zeroth Law, which [I]technically[/I] allows them to kill people if it aids Humanity as a whole.
Still, that would only happen if you have millions of robots connected to one another over decades.
The Zeroth law, the one time it was invoked in an Asimov novel ("Robots and Empire") resulted in the robot immediately and irreversibly being destroyed the moment it attacked the human.
But yeah, the evil robot turning against humans is an old idea, chewed up and thrown away in all science-fiction that isn't intended for an audience much smarter than your average peon.
Read "I, Robot" by Asimov (I said READ not WATCH, as the movie has nothing to do with the book) and
you'll see how robots can cause strange, life-threatening, scary scenarios without turning to the tired old "pitbull bites it's owner" trope.
[QUOTE=deadoctober;28852699]I thought of that too but he "glitches out" and that could possibly render the fail safes null.[/QUOTE]
There are many ways to circumvent this.
How about the failsafe is a seperate device that needs to be polled before anything can happen, a bit like a dead-man switch on a train, the failsafe crapsout, the robot becomes a rock, not by deactivating the robot, but simply by not passing messages from the AI to the machine.
Also, potentially harmful machines have more than one failsafe, this is why airplane and elevator malfunctions rarely cause an accident.
[QUOTE=Gaeel;28856805]The Zeroth law, the one time it was invoked in an Asimov novel ("Robots and Empire") resulted in the robot immediately and irreversibly being destroyed the moment it attacked the human.
But yeah, the evil robot turning against humans is an old idea, chewed up and thrown away in all science-fiction that isn't intended for an audience much smarter than your average peon.
Read "I, Robot" by Asimov (I said READ not WATCH, as the movie has nothing to do with the book) and
you'll see how robots can cause strange, life-threatening, scary scenarios without turning to the tired old "pitbull bites it's owner" trope.
There are many ways to circumvent this.
How about the failsafe is a seperate device that needs to be polled before anything can happen, a bit like a dead-man switch on a train, the failsafe crapsout, the robot becomes a rock, not by deactivating the robot, but simply by not passing messages from the AI to the machine.
Also, potentially harmful machines have more than one failsafe, this is why airplane and elevator malfunctions rarely cause an accident.[/QUOTE]
So kind of like cutting off a brain from the rest of the body?
That kid was a jackass.
Fuck yes, go little robot guy, slaughter those bastards.
[QUOTE=Rediscover;28846667]the little shit of a kid.[/QUOTE]
Pft, you are already guilty of the same as the kid.
You'd say the exact same words, I'll never get tired of it, hahaha that is so bullshit. You are full of shit. Moral of the story; We are full of shit.
Though you might not end up pissing off the robot, but hell people would probably glitch the shit out of them, or you would just get bored of it and he'd just be running the dishes with sounds muted for littlest annoyance.
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[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;28863345]So kind of like cutting off a brain from the rest of the body?[/QUOTE]
Body and mind, if the connection between don't work, you don't work.
Much like with paralyzed people, or deranged people. But robots. We are kinda like robots too.
fuck that kid
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not litterally
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i get that its a robot but i still feel really bad for how he was treated
[QUOTE=superdinoman;28852397]Good watch but you'd think robots would have a built in deactivation chip and plenty of fail safes to prevent harm to humans.[/QUOTE]
I think they sort of covered that in the film with the little part where the TV was talking about being sure to upgrade Blinky's firmware.
Which I see as a problem in even current technology like computers; the average family isn't tech savvy enough to know to keep shit updated and then they end up with unpatched malfunctions or security problems biting them in the ass. That's exactly what happened in the film.
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;28863345]So kind of like cutting off a brain from the rest of the body?[/QUOTE]
Asimov took it one step further by making the Three Laws something that must be followed for the robot to keep functioning. We're not talking about failsafes here, we're talking about them being [I]incapable[/I] of committing acts that would cause them to break the laws, much like how a human is incapable of making their heart stop beating.
I, Robot was a brilliant novel because it barely even covered the almost Luddite Frankenstein Complex that has captured the modern public, who seem to firmly believe that any creation Humanity births will inevitably try to destroy or enslave us. The times it did cover this irrational belief, Asimov was using it as a sign of simple fearmongering amongst the human masses. Robots were faithful, trusting servants to humans, because Asimov simply didn't see Humans as being stupid enough to create something that would actually want to kill us (based on Asimov's other works, he was continually optimistic about Humanity and it's ability to overcome obstacles.)
[QUOTE=Gaeel;28856805]The Zeroth law, the one time it was invoked in an Asimov novel ("Robots and Empire") resulted in the robot immediately and irreversibly being destroyed the moment it attacked the human.
But yeah, the evil robot turning against humans is an old idea, chewed up and thrown away in all science-fiction that isn't intended for an audience much smarter than your average peon.
Read "I, Robot" by Asimov (I said READ not WATCH, as the movie has nothing to do with the book) and
you'll see how robots can cause strange, life-threatening, scary scenarios without turning to the tired old "pitbull bites it's owner" trope.
There are many ways to circumvent this.
How about the failsafe is a seperate device that needs to be polled before anything can happen, a bit like a dead-man switch on a train, the failsafe crapsout, the robot becomes a rock, not by deactivating the robot, but simply by not passing messages from the AI to the machine.
Also, potentially harmful machines have more than one failsafe, this is why airplane and elevator malfunctions rarely cause an accident.[/QUOTE]
woah woah woah.... an Asimov robot attacked a scientist? really? Those little bastards were fast enough to strike a scientist?
[QUOTE=MightyMax;28867430]woah woah woah.... an Asimov robot attacked a scientist? really? Those little bastards were fast enough to strike a scientist?[/QUOTE]
It was in [I]Little Lost Robot[/I], and if I remember correctly the scientist had her back turned.
:frown:
I really hope you guys are not serious when you say you are glad the kid died.
That's really sick sounding.
The smile got creepy really quickly. That was a great video.
This was what was going through my head today in History:
[i]No problem.
No problem.
No problem.
No problem.
No problem.
No problem. . .[/i]
God [highlight]DAMN[/highlight] you, Blinky.
Awesome clip, although the idea of people eating someone unknowingly makes my stomach turn.
Also, at the beginning:
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23830004/globalwarming.png[/img]
[QUOTE=SuperLoz;28877006]Awesome clip, although the idea of people eating someone unknowingly makes my stomach turn.
Also, at the beginning:
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23830004/globalwarming.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Dayyyuuumm.
The kid was a faggot,[sp] he caused the murders since he gave him orders to kill his whole family.[/sp]
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also
[i][b]no problem[/b][/i]
I'd never get my kid a robot. It seems if you do they turn into fucking psycopaths.
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the kids, not the robots
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The robots too
If we get robots with that kind of mobility in just 10 years i will suck all facepunch dicks.
[QUOTE=DrBreen;28880570]If we get robots with that kind of mobility in just 10 years i will suck all facepunch dicks.[/QUOTE]
Challenge Accepted.
[QUOTE=DrBreen;28880570]If we get robots with that kind of mobility in just 10 years i will suck all facepunch dicks.[/QUOTE]
:toxx:
The kid was acting that way because of the way his parents acted towards eachother. He wanted them to stop arguing but he knew he couldn't change it. The robot is designed to follow orders and do them without question. The robot was tasked to kill them as what the kid says earlier in the movie. The robot also overheard the kid say to cook him and eat him.
tl;dr
The robot did what it was told.
Did anyone think Blinky sounded like Jar Jar Binks?
[QUOTE=superdinoman;28852397]Good watch but you'd think robots would have a built in deactivation chip and plenty of fail safes to prevent harm to humans.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but its a fantastic 'What if...'
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But yeah, that was a really really well done short film that I would PAY to see on the big screen with a bigger budget and a larger storyline. It was fantastic.
Creepy.
Is that the kid from Where the Wild Things Are?
I love the concept of the future in this video too, it's pretty neat with on half of the city is a normal modern suburban area and the city is far more advanced and futuristic. Reminds me of Brink.
"New evidence suggests Global Warming is making the beach a sexier place."
Gotta love fake news reports.
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