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no, they shouldn't there's no beneficial reason to try them as adults and not juveniles
I don't know much about this but I always wondered, doesn't trying juveniles as adults defeat the purpose of having different justice standards for juveniles in the first place?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26681537]or you could say that kids sent to prison will come out and commit more crime, not to mention since they cant get there life back on track they will have to go on welfare.[/QUOTE] then the opponent could kritik it and say "YOU'RE ARGUING FOR ANARCHY, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO GLOBAL NUCLEAR WAR"
[QUOTE=Jiyoon;26688356]then the opponent could kritik it and say "YOU'RE ARGUING FOR ANARCHY, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO GLOBAL NUCLEAR WAR"[/QUOTE] Tell them that is a Non Sequiter. Then ask them to map it out.
Near my home a high schooler was charged as an adult for attempted murder of a 15 year old middleschooler. He stomped on her face with steel toed boots. In this case, with the information I would say yes, try him as an adult. But this isn't the full story. A few weeks prior, he walked home one day to find his [i]brother who hanged himself hanging from a tree in his back yard[/i]. He received no therapy, other than counseling. After this, he got into a fight with said 15 year old girl over text messages. The fight escalated to the girl saying shit about him finding his dead brother. As he is in an already emotionally weakened state, he did probably what 99% of people would do, he beat the living shit out of her. In this case, I would say no, charge him as a child. A few years back I heard about a 14 year old babysitting a baby. The baby wouldn't stop crying while he was watching TV, so he did the reasonable thing (Not really) and beat its face in with a baseball bat. With this case, I'd send him off to therapy and charge him as an adult. Charging as an adult and charging as a child completely depends on the situation in my opinion, however, today courts lack human compassion today and the above were tried as adults, with no therapy. (with the top kid, they're still debating whether to isolate him in jail or not)
Babies are skinheads..
[QUOTE=TH89;26684411]I don't know much about this but I always wondered, doesn't trying juveniles as adults defeat the purpose of having different justice standards for juveniles in the first place?[/QUOTE] The key words in the resolution being "violent felonies." A kid shoplifting a CD is a very different case from a kid that brutally rapes and murders a classmate, for example.
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[QUOTE=Jiyoon;26688356]then the opponent could kritik it and say "YOU'RE ARGUING FOR ANARCHY, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO GLOBAL NUCLEAR WAR"[/QUOTE] then theres no use arguing with someone who will say something like that. the use of laws is to reduce crime and if sending a kid to jail will cause more then its not a useful law
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