Poll: Is the internet going to be censored in 20yrs?
88 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822621]Well if it was just "Who has the strongest party" that would be cool but it's always "dudes, chlorine in the water will kill you all" or "the government is plotting to kill you all" or "[B]socialism is coo[/B]l"
I mean geez[/QUOTE]
arson, murder, jaywalking
[URL]http://www.google.ca/search?q=france+censors+the+internet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a[/URL]
Hahaha no I do not have an alt to rate you dumb. You really like to make unjustified claims and assumptions though.
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822771]When did I call it "challenging authority"?
Are you saying you're challenging authority by making a thread on an internet forum?
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
Uh not really
Everything surrounding Wikileaks being taken down is because its hosters can't afford to keep being DDoSed by people who hate wikileaks
(don't say it's the government or your credibility will be gone thanks)
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
I'm pretty sure he logged onto his alt Terminutter to rate himself zing lol he's offline at the time of this edit[/QUOTE]
dude just stop derailing the thread and making baseless accusations
why bother even mentioning wikileaks
"Content containing child pornography and having ties to terrorism will be blocked"
Do you think those things should be allowed on the internet?
I would of voted second from bottom, but you put child porn and piracy at the same level, so I'm not voting because it's a dumb poll.
Child pornography and terrorism-coordination sites being taken down this is such a breach of free speech kill all government
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26822764]Its no conspiracy that the internet is getting censored.[/QUOTE]
that actually would be a conspiracy
I think you meant to say "It's no secret that the internet is getting censored" or something
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822882]"Content containing child pornography and having ties to terrorism will be blocked"
Do you think those things should be allowed on the internet?[/QUOTE]
one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
(devils advocate)
[QUOTE=Kingy_why;26822884]I would of voted second from bottom, but you put child porn and piracy at the same level, so I'm not voting because it's a dumb poll.[/QUOTE]
Yeah pretty much, it's like those Fox polls that force you to answer something you don't want to if you want your opinion to count
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822771]When did I call it "challenging authority"?
Are you saying you're challenging authority by making a thread on an internet forum?
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
Uh not really
Everything surrounding Wikileaks being taken down is because its hosters can't afford to keep being DDoSed by people who hate wikileaks
(don't ay it's the government or your credibility will be gone thanks)
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
I'm pretty sure he logged onto his alt Terminutter to rate himself zing lol he's offline at the time of this edit[/QUOTE]
You're the first person to mention wikileaks.
Thanks for your opinion about my threads, but I think you should go. A lot of people actually want to discuss this issue.
There is a lot of fucked up shit on the internet that would do better not being there, but it's strange to think of it as ever being substantially monitored or anything. Like imagine a mandatory AntiVirus or something. Its interesting to think about, and a lot of people ahve interesting opinions on it, too.
Just because I'm making several politically charged threads isn't saying much besides that I like inciting heated discussions about important, controversial subjects. I don't have to be a 'theorist kid' in order to do that, you don't know me, you know me through what I type. So shut the fuck up and actually say your piece about the subject rather than my thread making tendencies you little nazi.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26822891]
one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
(devils advocate)[/QUOTE]
You can turn anything with the worst of intentions into a saintly thing with enough rewording.
The internet is already being censored, what the heck are you talking about future!
Well, censorship is always a bad thing, but some stuff needs to be kept away from the public like much of what wikileaks is revealing.
[QUOTE=Kingy_why;26822884]I would of voted second from bottom, but you put child porn and piracy at the same level, so I'm not voting because it's a dumb poll.[/QUOTE]
Its hard to make a good poll for a topic like this, hence why it is encouraged to actually post and say what you want about the subject. Just think about how intrinsic it becomes. Child Porn and piracy being grouped together is just because it's the biggest 'laws' that get broken when people use the internet.
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26822912]You're the first person to mention wikileaks.
Thanks for your opinion about my threads, but I think you should go. A lot of people actually want to discuss this issue.
There is a lot of fucked up shit on the internet that would do better not being there, but it's strange to think of it as ever being substantially monitored or anything. Like imagine a mandatory AntiVirus or something. Its interesting to think about, and a lot of people ahve interesting opinions on it, too.
Just because I'm making several politically charged threads isn't saying much besides that I like inciting heated discussions about important, controversial subjects. I don't have to be a 'theorist kid' in order to do that, you don't know me, you know me through what I type. So shut the fuck up and actually say your piece about the subject rather than my thread making tendencies you little nazi.[/QUOTE]
I think you already know the internet isn't going to be censored en masse because that's pretty impossible to do from a technical standpoint (as British officials learned when they proposed a full pornographs ban)
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[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26822912]Just because I'm making several politically charged threads isn't saying much besides that I like inciting heated discussions about important, controversial subjects. I don't have to be a 'theorist kid' in order to do that, you don't know me, you know me through what I type. So shut the fuck up and actually say your piece about the subject rather than my thread making tendencies you little [B]nazi.[/B][/QUOTE]
I agree with you but you just invoked :godwin:'s law, so your argument is instantly null
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822948]I think you already know the internet isn't going to be censored en masse because that's pretty impossible to do from a technical standpoint (as British officials learned when they proposed a full pornographs ban)[/QUOTE]
Yes, in 2010 I already know that the internet isn't going to be censored. That's why it says "in 20 years" right on the front of the thread. It's looking into the future and making guesses on what it 'could' become. That's all it is.
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26822937]Its hard to make a good poll for a topic like this, hence why it is encouraged to actually post and say what you want about the subject. Just think about how intrinsic it becomes. Child Porn and piracy being grouped together is just because it's the biggest 'laws' that get broken when people use the internet.[/QUOTE]
How about you make a poll without all the modifiers attached, just
I am strongly against internet censorship (or I think no content at all should be censorable)
I am against internet censorship (or I think some content should be censorable)
I am for internet censorship (or I think most content should be censorable)
I am strongly for internet censorship (or I think all content should be censorable)
We all know that'll just spark the creating of a "ShadowNet" or "UnderNet"
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Took 2 mins to make.
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822987]How about you make a poll without all the modifiers attached, just
I am strongly against internet censorship (or I think no content at all should be censorable)
I am against internet censorship (or I think some content should be censorable)
I am for internet censorship (or I think most content should be censorable)
I am strongly for internet censorship (or I think all content should be censorable)[/QUOTE]
Good idea. Is there a way to edit poll options.
[QUOTE=mercurius;26822959]Don't censor illegal websites! [B]TAKE 'EM DOWN AND PROSECUTE THESE PEOPLE.[/B]
Censorship won't stop child abusers from committing crimes, a pair of handcuffs and a vigilante cell mate do.[/QUOTE]
Actually it does, because child pornography sites make money from making movies of children being exploited. So, when they get out of business, the children aren't exploited any more.
[QUOTE=Tropophas;26822924]You can turn anything with the worst of intentions into a saintly thing with enough rewording.[/QUOTE]
it isn't just spin that determines it
the actual repurcussions years down the line are what affects what people think of a terrorist act
america's founders or the french revolutionaries could have been considered terrorists by today's standards
my point is that handing control of the flow of information on the internet to a central authority automatically creates an ethical hegemony - people impose their moral worldview upon the rest of the world
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=mercurius;26822959]Don't censor illegal websites! [B]TAKE 'EM DOWN AND PROSECUTE THESE PEOPLE.[/B][/QUOTE]
difficult when they are hosted overseas
As if a Government could stand against the people... A Government without people is powerless.
[sp]Hasta la victoria Siempre![/sp]
The thread title question and poll question differ.
So to answer the thread question, I think within 20 years the internet will be heavily censored.
I'm against it but I feel the general public will not give a damn as long as facebook still exists.
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26823002]Good idea. Is there a way to edit poll options.[/QUOTE]
no, but make a post where ratings are surrogate poll results (rate agree for x, disagree for y, funny for z etc)
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;26823027]The thread title question and poll question differ.
So to answer the thread question, I think within 20 years the internet will be heavily censored.
I'm against it but I feel the general public will not give a damn as long as facebook still exists.[/QUOTE]
Because the thread question can't be made into a poll without being very biased.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26823008]it isn't just spin that determines it
the actual repurcussions years down the line are what affects what people think of a terrorist act
america's founders or the french revolutionaries could have been considered terrorists by today's standards
my point is that handing control of the flow of information on the internet to a central authority automatically creates an ethical hegemony - people impose their moral worldview upon the rest of the world
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
difficult when they are hosted overseas[/QUOTE]
Internet censorship as-is only influences people who create criminal content, it isn't a moral issue at all
[editline]20th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26823054]Because the thread question can't be made into a poll without being very biased.[/QUOTE]
"Do you think the internet will be censored in 20 years?
yes
no"
Or you could've changed the title
"Should the internet be censored?"
[QUOTE=mr apple;26822530]
I remember the Australian plan for censorship where you'd pay $50 for 5 websites to browse, I laughed hard.[/QUOTE]
are you guys in australia sure you get who you actually voted for up there
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26823028]no, but make a post where ratings are surrogate poll results (rate agree for x, disagree for y, funny for z etc)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the idea. It is on the 4th post.
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