I'm trying to draw a narrative chart for this episode based on [url=http://xkcd.com/657/]XKCD #657[/url] but I'm having difficulty.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;22907119]Amy and Rory are both older than the Doctor now.
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Do their ages carry through from the reset?[/QUOTE]
The doctor's well over 2,000 actually. As he named himself around 900 in the original series and is presumably lying about his age nww.
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22907549]The doctor's well over 2,000 actually. As he named himself around 900 in the original series and is presumably lying about his age nww.[/QUOTE]
He said he was 950 or something like that to Wilf in the last series' finale, no reason to lie about that.
This finale was very clever, much smarter than any finale the other director did.
Moffat actually used time as the enemy, aside from the 1 dalek there were no other enemies, not a constant flow of Enemy A or B as we've seen with the previous series.
I enjoyed it, it required some thought and worked with the doctor.
I did enjoy the finale, but the whole thing about all of his enemies coming together which sounded like something AWESOME was going to happen was wasted.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;22907119]Amy and Rory are both older than the Doctor now.
[editline]09:36PM[/editline]
Do their ages carry through from the reset?[/QUOTE]
No. During the reset, it became a whole different reality. Amy and Rory still retained some memories, presumingly because of their proximity to the big bang 2, Amy being locked up for 2000 years in the restorative Pandorica light, and Rory's connection with... everything. And her memory of The Doctor may have survived because of The Doctor having been in the center of the Big Bang 2. The Doctor was only brought back because of the memory of him in Amy, and the memory of him in the Universe from the Big Bang 2.
[QUOTE=nightlord;22907631]He said he was 950 or something like that to Wilf in the last series' finale, no reason to lie about that.[/QUOTE]
He said 906. And even then he was probably lying.
also OH SHIT GUYS
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[QUOTE=Comrade General;22907801]He said 906. And even then he was probably lying.
also OH SHIT GUYS
[IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/ohshi12.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Didn't have to use the default photoshop paint tool settings
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;22907527]I'm trying to draw a narrative chart for this episode based on [url=http://xkcd.com/657/]XKCD #657[/url] but I'm having difficulty.[/QUOTE]
Good luck with that.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;22907688]This finale was very clever, much smarter than any finale the other director did.
Moffat actually used time as the enemy, aside from the 1 dalek there were no other enemies, not a constant flow of Enemy A or B as we've seen with the previous series.
I enjoyed it, it required some thought and worked with the doctor.[/QUOTE]
I liked the few enemies thing too. I'm glad they didn't have all of the aliens from the last episode be the enemy, with some massive fight with every enemy ever, that would have been a pile of fan-wank that would be hard to make decent.
Also I don't understand what people are saying about his melting and then becoming a security guard, or why I was rated dumb. If he had melted then he wouldn't have been able to turn up as the security guard later on, right? Or is there something I've missed completely? I know we saw the video about the story of the Roman who pulled the Pandorica out of the burning building, but I was under the impression that after that we got a job as a security guard and didn't actually melt. I don't see any other explanation for him having turned up.
[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;22907816]Didn't have to use the default photoshop paint tool settings[/QUOTE]
I used fuzzy brush in GIMP over a crack image because it wasn't glowy enough
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;22904564]
It should have ended with the TARDIS disappearing, then panning out of Amy's garden, into the town, where we see some ducks happily swimming in a pond :3[/QUOTE]
Did someone say Duck Pond?
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[QUOTE=deathrat;22907140]Wait a second...River is an egyptian goddess!
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Also, I wonder if we'll ever see the doctor's daughter again.
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Also also, River claimed to be Cleopatra in the last episode, coincidence? I think not.[/QUOTE]
Cleopatra was a Pharoess (yes, no?), the queen of the nile, not a Goddess.
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22907549]The doctor's well over 2,000 actually. As he named himself around 900 in the original series and is presumably lying about his age nww.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nightlord;22907631]He said he was 950 or something like that to Wilf in the last series' finale, no reason to lie about that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22907801]He said 906. And even then he was probably lying.[/quote]
He's 907.
[url]http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor's_age#Eleventh_Doctor[/url]
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22907862]I used fuzzy brush in GIMP over a crack image because it wasn't glowy enough[/QUOTE]
hilarious ...
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Anyone have a slightly higher quality of that? I made [url=http://filesmelt.com/dl/dance123.gif]this[/url]. But it ended up being 6mb, and I really can't be arsed resizing it.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;22900835][img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/doctorwhoowls.png[/img_thumb]
Doctor Hoot![/QUOTE]
I know this is from a few pages back but I wanted to comment on it because I like it so much. The most obvious is Tennant but so much so that I would recognise him as Tennant out of context. MY favourite there is probabably either Eccleston or McCoy.
Tom Baker looks kinda like a beaver :v:
episode 12. That had one of the most powerful endings of any episode of doctor who i have seen in a while. the feeling of the doctor being completely helpless. It also managed to wrap it all up in a decent manner at the end. This has been my favorite series of doctor who so far.
Haha, drawing a crack over your pc screen. Just like the real thing, sadly it doesn't exist, its simply a part of fic
THAT. WAS. AMAZING.
Just watched before and that was simply the greatest :D
Guys I just found a super secret alternate for "The Pandorica Opens", it reveals a major big bad of the series so spoilers :ssh:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFa4msGpvFIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFa4msGpvFI[/media]
This is bugging me: Where does the Doctor that materialized in the wedding come from? Did he come from Amy's memories? If so, how would he have all of his own memories?
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[QUOTE=kikka;22908291]Guys I just found a super secret alternate for "The Pandorica Opens", it reveals a major big bad of the series so spoilers :ssh:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFa4msGpvFIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFa4msGpvFI[/media][/QUOTE]
My mind was blown.
[QUOTE=Smartguy5000;22908072]Cleopatra was a Pharoess (yes, no?), the queen of the nile, not a Goddess.[/QUOTE]
The Egyptians worshipped their Pharoahs as Gods though.
ALSO:
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bigbangtimegraph.png[/img]
Rate informative; this took a lot of effort
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;22908439]The Egyptians worshipped their Pharoahs as Gods though.
ALSO:
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bigbangtimegraph.png[/img]
Rate informative; this took a lot of effort[/QUOTE]
My mind was blown.
I'd have thought the Doctor's timeline would have been easier as you can make it up with squiggles. Amy and Rory's would have taken some time thinking, that took a HUGE amount of work to work out ;)
Aren't you not allowed to go back on your own timeline?
[QUOTE=radioactive;22908609]Aren't you not allowed to go back on your own timeline?[/QUOTE]
The fact that the Earth itself is a paradox due to its very existence because of its proximity to the Eye of the Storm, it could possibly allow other paradoxes to take place.
MUST show off this gif:
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/1277588588437.gif[/img]
I never liked the not being allowed to go back on your own timeline. I liked Father's Day, I just assume that was because The Doctor and Rose had already been there, seen him get run over and but then Rose changed it, if they had seen Rose change it first time around then Rose wouldn't have had the motivation to go back and change it in the first place -- so I think it's mainly avoided to avoid paradoxes like that. The Doctor meeting himself in this episode was a paradox, but it was self-fulfilling making it stable. Also it could be that Pete's death was a 'fixed point' as the Doctor describes them, rather than being in a state of flux. In today's episode, the universe was so small and so little still existed that I think everything was in a state of flux, not that I would know.
tl;dr Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey
Goddamn I really have to stop thinking up convoluted ways to try to understand time in Doctor Who and just learn to accept what I watch.
[QUOTE=lintz;22904962]No, unfortunately. Still, Rory's an Auton now.[/QUOTE]
Autons keep things especially clean :smug:
I smiled at River a few times, especially when she said she once dated an auton and he had interchangeable heads which "made for variety".
The character's really grown on me, I hope she doesn't turn out to be some disappointingly dull baddie in the next series.
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