• Doctor Who V4 - Hello Sweetie (ƟƩ φ ɼϒΔϟ)
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[QUOTE=Communist Cake;26978667]BBC iPlayer?[/QUOTE] Not available in my area :smith:
[QUOTE=Marlamin;26963911]Haha, I did a random check for "slenderman" on Twitter and seems we're not the only one connecting it to: [media]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le00sxRLPf1qzuytqo1_500.png[/media][/QUOTE] David Tennant returns :ohdear: Just as his alien-self. (and suit 'n' all) [editline]26th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Coffee;26973407]But Doctor Who doesn't want to associate itself with Soaps.[/QUOTE] Seems to have done with [SP]Coronation Street[/SP]. I daren't say that word openly due to the fact I will get slaughtered here :ohdear:
No one thinks anything about my post? :smith:
Well, I've just finished watching the special. It was pretty awesome, imo, but as stated before, changing someone's history just to make them a nicer person doesn't seem very Doctor-y. [editline]26th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=lintz;26982333]No one thinks anything about my post? :smith:[/QUOTE] I had been thinking about that aswell, but I'm quite simply not that sure about it. I'm always a bit skeptical about stuff like that.
[QUOTE=lintz;26971304]Guys, this just occurred to me in a bout of fridge logic. We're all talking about the trailer and the clues inside there, but there's no reason there can't be clues in the special too. What about the song? In Confidential, the producers said they wanted a Christmas song just for Doctor Who. That was the last song of the whole episode. They wouldn't create a song of random, there's got to be meaning behind it. One line struck me as prophetic. "Silence is all around." The Silence. I mean, we all know we're coming back to it, but it's being lampshaded right here. "Let in the light of your bright shadow" Vashta Nerada? I don't know, maybe this is all idle speculation and the words really only just pertain to Abigail and Kazran.[/QUOTE] The carol! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed the references to The Silence! They said they were going to be introducing more references to it straight from the off, but I wasn't expecting it to be included in the Christmas episode.
The christmas special really didn't need the flying fish and the shark. I thought that was really, really stupid
[QUOTE=ThePutty;26984853]The christmas special really didn't need the flying fish and the shark. I thought that was really, really stupid[/QUOTE] Why? Why can't [i]anything[/i] exist in the universe of Doctor Who. As the Doctor admitted himself back in that Dream Lord episode, you could be confronted by a talking sofa at the next planet. The universe is weird and wonderful, and I think it added that extra layer of interest.
[QUOTE=ThePutty;26984853]The christmas special really didn't need the flying fish and the shark. I thought that was really, really stupid[/QUOTE] Gave a reason for The Doctor to mess around with young Kahzran, I guess.
[QUOTE=Jessbinx;26985087]As the Doctor admitted himself back in that Dream Lord episode, you could be confronted by a talking sofa at the next planet.[/QUOTE] [media]http://files.myopera.com/demiphonic/albums/113789/I_think_I%27m_a_sofa.jpg[/media] [sp]"Ford... I think I'm a sofa."[/sp]
[QUOTE=ThePutty;26984853]The christmas special really didn't need the flying fish and the shark. I thought that was really, really stupid[/QUOTE] Oh come on, without the flying fish the whole episode would have been really boring, without them it may as well have been set on earth. Like, try and imagine the episode without the fish. Shit episode. Anyway I like that he ignores the rules of time travel more - it fits in more with that lesson he learnt on the waters of mars at the end, he seems to be going down that general direction and breaking the rules a bit more - but it allows the episode more flexibility and creativity and can come up with some truly amazing stuff like in the big bang and the pandorica opens, or even this christmas special. There's a lot more emphasis on the idea of a 'lord of time' as opposed to the time lords who are just another race of beings albeit technologically superior
He's broken most of his restraints, but he's still bound by a few.
[QUOTE=verynicelady;26976051] but I don't really like this series as much as the RTD ones, it ignores the rules of time travel and rushes off into fantasy at the slightest excuse as far as I can see.[/QUOTE] Yeah but he RTD ones made up a bunch of arbitrary rules to make the episodes work in the first place. Which often leads to continuity errors in a couple of episodes anyway.
Smith and Gambon were as amazing as expected. Along with The Big Bang, A Christmas Carol was another example of how Doctor Who can use Time Travel to not only get to places, but what to do when you get there. I still don't see how there are those saying that flying sharks were a ridiculous concept when the show revolves about a mad man in a police box that spins through a time vortex.
When you compare this episode to The Girl in the Fireplace, it really comes up short. That episode had a mixture of sadness, romance and adventure. In my opinion great actors and good effects in A Christmas Carol don't make up for the lack of a believable, neatly plotted story
[QUOTE=verynicelady;26998086]When you compare this episode to The Girl in the Fireplace, it really comes up short. That episode had a mixture of sadness, romance and adventure. In my opinion great actors and good effects in A Christmas Carol don't make up for the lack of a believable, neatly plotted story[/QUOTE] You can't compare this episode to Girl in the Fireplace. When Moffat was writing for RTD, he had a different direction to now, when he's chief writer.
Not to forget that the 10th Doctor had a completely different personality than the 11th.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;26998142]You can't compare this episode to Girl in the Fireplace. When Moffat was writing for RTD, he had a different direction to now, when he's chief writer.[/QUOTE] verynicelady's comparison is justified - you can't blame everything on rtd both episodes were about the doctor visiting a person as they grow up, and of their subsequent relationship. though I would counter it by saying that this special had a mixture of sadness romance and adventure too. I think they're about equal
[QUOTE=Mak123;26964781]holy shit lol when i first saw that i thought it was the guy who played daniel faraday from lost [img_thumb]http://images.hitfix.com/photos/86396/Faraday_article_story_main.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Ugh I thought this too.. [editline]27th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=verynicelady;26998086]When you compare this episode to The Girl in the Fireplace, it really comes up short. That episode had a mixture of sadness, romance and adventure. In my opinion great actors and good effects in A Christmas Carol don't make up for the lack of a believable, neatly plotted story[/QUOTE] Believable? It's Doctor Who. It's a Christmas special. It's not supposed to be taken seriously. If it was a normal episode I would get the criticism, but it's fluff, Christmas fluff, it captured Christmas beautifully. Also, anybody notice Katherine Jenkins was singing about the silence falling?
[QUOTE=Dan2593;27005832]Also, anybody notice Katherine Jenkins was singing about the silence falling?[/QUOTE] Jess and someone else did a few pages back, I believe. I didn't though
If Amelia remembered the doctor and p much everything in the universe (lol) then the pandorica still exists, right? Not to mention the cracks and such.
This is going to sound really dumb, and I can't believe I'm really asking: Rory isn't a Nestene duplicate any more, is he? I assume when the universe rebooted itself after Big Bang 2, he went back to normal, but perhaps I'm being stupid. Also, would he remember all the time he spent waiting/guarding Amy? If he did, technically he'd be older than the Doctor, which is rather interesting...
[QUOTE=Jessbinx;27006377]This is going to sound really dumb, and I can't believe I'm really asking: Rory isn't a Nestene duplicate any more, is he? I assume when the universe rebooted itself after Big Bang 2, he went back to normal, but perhaps I'm being stupid. Also, would he remember all the time he spent waiting/guarding Amy? If he did, technically he'd be older than the Doctor, which is rather interesting...[/QUOTE] Pretty sure Rory remembers
[QUOTE=Jessbinx;27006377]This is going to sound really dumb, and I can't believe I'm really asking: Rory isn't a Nestene duplicate any more, is he? I assume when the universe rebooted itself after Big Bang 2, he went back to normal, but perhaps I'm being stupid. Also, would he remember all the time he spent waiting/guarding Amy? If he did, technically he'd be older than the Doctor, which is rather interesting...[/QUOTE] He remembers he was a Nestene, but he isn't anymore (somehow) Listen very closely in The Big Bang, right after the TARDIS materialises at the wedding reception. He says something like "I was plastic, he was the stripper at my stag ..." - i.e. past tense
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;26986455][media]http://files.myopera.com/demiphonic/albums/113789/I_think_I%27m_a_sofa.jpg[/media] [sp]"Ford... I think I'm a sofa."[/sp][/QUOTE] I know how you feel.
[QUOTE=Jessbinx;27006377]This is going to sound really dumb, and I can't believe I'm really asking: Rory isn't a Nestene duplicate any more, is he? I assume when the universe rebooted itself after Big Bang 2, he went back to normal, but perhaps I'm being stupid. Also, would he remember all the time he spent waiting/guarding Amy? If he did, technically he'd be older than the Doctor, which is rather interesting...[/QUOTE] Amy and Rory are now mentally older than the Doctor, but not physically, if that makes sense.
[QUOTE=Asrue2;27007077]Amy and Rory are now mentally older than the Doctor, but not physically, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE] Makes perfect sense. Thanks for that everyone, that's cleared that one up for me once and for all.
[QUOTE=Asrue2;27007077]Amy and Rory are now mentally older than the Doctor, but not physically, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE] Only Rory is - Amy wasn't awake inside the Pandorica. Also it's possible that the Doctor doesn't actually know how old he really is, and just says 900 years because it sounds cool.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;27007290]Only Rory is - Amy wasn't awake inside the Pandorica. Also it's possible that the Doctor doesn't actually know how old he really is, and just says 900 years because it sounds cool.[/QUOTE] I'd always assumed the Doctor'd kept some sort of tab on it.
[QUOTE=Jessbinx;27009319]I'd always assumed the Doctor'd kept some sort of tab on it.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that after 500, you kinda stop counting. And heck, traveling through time would make a birthday irrelevant, considering that days don't really happen when you can turn time back. If that makes sense.
[QUOTE=Rowtree;27009573]I'm pretty sure that after 500, you kinda stop counting. And heck, traveling through time would make a birthday irrelevant, considering that days don't really happen when you can turn time back. If that makes sense.[/QUOTE] True. Assuming he has a birthday. One of the more well-established old Who novels suggested that Gallifreyans were sort of grown/produced by a genetic machine called "The Loom". No idea if that's canon though. [editline]27th December 2010[/editline] Scratch that. He'd still have to be born -facepalm-
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