Oneirogens - Dream every night with legal cheap stuff! - General

[QUOTE=wooletang;44048736]would vaporizing be an option with things like this, or do you have to smoke to get the full effect? "this" refers to both Calea and Entada.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Just tried vaporizing a few grams of Calea at 250F...*much* more pronounced effect than smoking. Seems like some of the actives in the plant are lost due to too much heat. Read more: [url]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52311#ixzz2uOHapPO3[/url][/QUOTE]

I've tried Calea zacatechichi 10x extract. I didn't buy enough to get into the rhythm where you get more lucid dreams. But it had a very particular, pleasant & noteworthy smell, which left me thinking about it a long time after. I get lucid dreams from 5htp though. Something I find very interesting.

I've seen the extract and been wary. They barely understand how the plant works so how can they concentract active ingredients? I'll stick to leaf.

Just ordered myself some of the Calea Zacatechichi and Enthada Reedii. Hope they prove effective. Also any advice/instructions on how to smoke these when I get them?

This Alepidea Amatymbica root, how well does it burn on its own ? And could I say make a hash joint with it replacing tobacco ?

[QUOTE=tristanguy2;44064168]Just ordered myself some of the Calea Zacatechichi and Enthada Reedii. Hope they prove effective. Also any advice/instructions on how to smoke these when I get them?[/QUOTE] Calea you can smoke like anything else. Cigarette or bowl. Entada you will have to open, probably by brute force. Discard the brown outer shell, then grind up pieces of the inner shell. It's quite tough: be wary about using a very shitty grinder because you might snap plastic (I guess, never actually done so). Mix a cigarette's or bowl's worth of Calea with a ground-up small piece of Entada, and smoke. Calea is pretty much guaranteed to work. Entada should amplify it. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=kaskade700;44066955]This Alepidea Amatymbica root, how well does it burn on its own ? And could I say make a hash joint with it replacing tobacco ?[/QUOTE] If it comes to you pre-ground, Alepidea will resemble straight-up dirt. You can roll it into a cigarette without further grinding. Humm... It may tend to clog a little bit... I'll smoke some and get back to you about how it goes, just to refresh my memory. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] Reporting in! I smoked a massive, long, machine-rolled Alepidea cigarette. It burns [I]very slowly.[/I] Such a long cigarette takes a long time to smoke. The ground root is kind of cloggy, with poor airflow. A very large cigarette will take a lot of suction. The smoke tastes good (though if it gets in your nose it will irritate you). I asked someone if I smelled like anything and they said it smelled like I'd been around a campfire. Definitely smells nothing like weed or tobacco! Alepidea doesn't give any visual or stoning effects, but it's relaxing, it's sooo relaxing. You'll just want to close your eyes in the sun. So good! I really do like this stuff.

My calea came in today (fastest shipping I've ever seen), can't wait to try it out. I just wish I had an actual grinder so I didn't have to break it down with my fingers.

i might order some calea, it seems to have the properties that i have been looking for

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;44068039]Calea you can smoke like anything else. Cigarette or bowl. Entada you will have to open, probably by brute force. Discard the brown outer shell, then grind up pieces of the inner shell. It's quite tough: be wary about using a very shitty grinder because you might snap plastic (I guess, never actually done so). Mix a cigarette's or bowl's worth of Calea with a ground-up small piece of Entada, and smoke. Calea is pretty much guaranteed to work. Entada should amplify it. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] If it comes to you pre-ground, Alepidea will resemble straight-up dirt. You can roll it into a cigarette without further grinding. Humm... It may tend to clog a little bit... I'll smoke some and get back to you about how it goes, just to refresh my memory. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] Reporting in! I smoked a massive, long, machine-rolled Alepidea cigarette. It burns [I]very slowly.[/I] Such a long cigarette takes a long time to smoke. The ground root is kind of cloggy, with poor airflow. A very large cigarette will take a lot of suction. The smoke tastes good (though if it gets in your nose it will irritate you). I asked someone if I smelled like anything and they said it smelled like I'd been around a campfire. Definitely smells nothing like weed or tobacco! Alepidea doesn't give any visual or stoning effects, but it's relaxing, it's sooo relaxing. You'll just want to close your eyes in the sun. So good! I really do like this stuff.[/QUOTE] Thank you for going trough such lengths to answer my question! I have smoked hash with tobacco for many years, making it hard to quit smoking and I've been looking for alternatives that doesn't require ground up herb since smoking wizards(I don't know what you Americans call mix joints) will shoot your tolerance trough the fucking roof. Plus being a daily smoker I only ever dream(or remember them at least) in periods of not smoking caused by money woes, t-breaks, work, life etc. So I kind of miss dreaming over all. Rolling your hash(if its soft) into a cylinder and rolling that cylinder into the joint helps with suction problems and hash in general.

Humm... Well there are a number of things you can smoke just as filler. My first purchase of a legal botanical was 28 grams Calea and 28 grams Blue Lotus. Blue Lotus is said to have a mild relaxant effect, however I have not noticed as much in any Blue Lotus cigarette I've smoked. I will say that Blue Lotus does taste quite [I]good[/I] while Calea tastes like shit. I've also got Damiana, that's super cheap in the US. None of the above, besides Calea, seems to be known for dream enhancement, but they could all be used as filler if that's all you're looking for.

Just smoked my first calea cigarette. Probably the most putrid thing I've ever inhaled. Am I supposed to roll it with tobacco? Because I just rolled a straight calea cigarette.

How well does the Calea work? I ordered an ounce. In my experience though, if you smoke it before you sleep, you will have trippy dreams but RARELY ever remember them (also no lucid dreams). I was wondering if this would somehow cancel that out if I happen to want to smoke both. Also does smoking more Calea add to the effect? Or is that redundant.

[QUOTE=Tokii;44072241]Just smoked my first calea cigarette. Probably the most putrid thing I've ever inhaled. Am I supposed to roll it with tobacco? Because I just rolled a straight calea cigarette.[/QUOTE] i hear a lot of complaints but i really do not find it as bad as people say. if you're pooling it in your mouth don't. i always had it straight (or with blue lotus, or entada). maybe i'll emphasize the taste. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=bulletshield;44072940]How well does the Calea work? I ordered an ounce. In my experience though, if you smoke it before you sleep, you will have trippy dreams but RARELY ever remember them (also no lucid dreams). I was wondering if this would somehow cancel that out if I happen to want to smoke both. Also does smoking more Calea add to the effect? Or is that redundant.[/QUOTE] calea works wonders and i'm sure there's compounding effects. calea dreams are more chronic than acute, this is why it doesn't matter tremendously to take it immediately before bed and why you would do well to build up over a few days. i sometimes remember dreams very well but a dream journal works. i have a notepad app on my phone with two notepads for dreams. later i transfer them to a .odt file.

Hey guys, havent posted here in a few years. Decided to come back onto FP for a gander. I had a dream a while ago where i was in my house and it suddenly turned into a full blown acid trip and my heart started racing. Last night I also had a dream and I woke up within the dream to floating mid air in my back garden having a full on DMT breakthrough, heart also racing then woke up. I find it very interesting that my brain can produce these dreams. Has anybody else ever tripped in a dream? I haven't taken any drugs in months btw. I used to. Edit: Wow my account is 9 years old... That means i was 10 when I made it?? that doesn't sound right..

I ordered an ounce of calea, really excited for it to get here. What is it like when mixed with weed? I know it masks some of the smell but do the effects change? And noahh, I understand how weird it feels. I had heard of Gmod but my friend showed me Facewound and that ended up with me making an account here to post about it. I was 11 at the time haha

[QUOTE=peabrain101;44074121]I ordered an ounce of calea, really excited for it to get here. What is it like when mixed with weed? I know it masks some of the smell but do the effects change?[/QUOTE] If you smoke it straight without anything added there aren't any immediate, noticeable effects, so I'm assuming if you smoke it with weed you get high from the weed but still get the same benefits from the calea. I'm picking up some weed soon and I'll roll the calea into a spliff, I'll tell you how it is.

[QUOTE=peabrain101;44074121]I ordered an ounce of calea, really excited for it to get here. What is it like when mixed with weed? I know it masks some of the smell but do the effects change? And noahh, I understand how weird it feels. I had heard of Gmod but my friend showed me Facewound and that ended up with me making an account here to post about it. I was 11 at the time haha[/QUOTE] Alas, I have been and will be unable to smoke weed for the next few months due to drug tests. I cannot answer that question. Though Calea is less cough-inducing than weed, I know, so calea-cannabis mixtures may possibly be less likely to cause you to cough. As I have said before, some people mention intoxicating effects from Calea but I notice no such thing. If there are immediate effects they are very minor. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=noahh;44074022]Hey guys, havent posted here in a few years. Decided to come back onto FP for a gander. I had a dream a while ago where i was in my house and it suddenly turned into a full blown acid trip and my heart started racing. Last night I also had a dream and I woke up within the dream to floating mid air in my back garden having a full on DMT breakthrough, heart also racing then woke up. I find it very interesting that my brain can produce these dreams. Has anybody else ever tripped in a dream? I haven't taken any drugs in months btw. I used to. Edit: Wow my account is 9 years old... That means i was 10 when I made it?? that doesn't sound right..[/QUOTE] Before I'd ever had acid or any psychedelic, I dreamt about dropping acid. Basically it turned everything into a red filter. [img]https://www.maxmax.com/images/Filters/Tree665nmLg.jpg[/img] So absolutely different from what it's actually like.

Whoa. Maybe it's the colouracetam but I just dreamt I was in th pilot episode of a 90's kid's cartoon. Vividly as hell. The urge to see what the next level of my dreams could be with oneirogens is tempting as hell...but I do have a tendency to sleepwalk soooo...hmm

I've heard that vitamin B6 enhances your dream activity. With practice, I dreamed I could control the entire universe.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;44072236]Humm... Well there are a number of things you can smoke just as filler. My first purchase of a legal botanical was 28 grams Calea and 28 grams Blue Lotus. Blue Lotus is said to have a mild relaxant effect, however I have not noticed as much in any Blue Lotus cigarette I've smoked. I will say that Blue Lotus does taste quite [I]good[/I] while Calea tastes like shit. I've also got Damiana, that's super cheap in the US. None of the above, besides Calea, seems to be known for dream enhancement, but they could all be used as filler if that's all you're looking for.[/QUOTE] I read up about the blue lotus stuff, and people said that smoking it didnt give much effects. They also tried mixing it with wine (letting it sit for a month or so) and then drinking some. They said it had bigger effects than smoked. So well my guess is you should try to buy a nice sweet wine, put blue lotus and let it sit for a month, and then try blue lotus.

Blue Lotus Wine sounds like some delicious magic drink you would find in a dream

1) Smoke calea 2) Dream 3) Find blue lotus wine It's perfect!

Haha, just had a about 2 joints, should I expect anything tonight?

Perhaps. I didn't well document my first cigarettes so it may take a few days' constant use to set in. Report back!

How are you guys rolling the cigs? (I've never hand rolled anything ever) Would it be fine to use a cigarette rolling machine with the pre-made filters and papers?

I just roll my cigarettes by hand with an index card folded into a roach (good God I've gotten good at rolling by rolling Calea). But I see no issue with a rolling machine.

So currently my routine is just smoking at least 1 or 2 calea joint a day with 30 drops of calea extract. On my fourth day, so I've slept off 3 nights so far. I don't know if its placebo or actual effect, but I am definitely having/remembering more trippy dreams now. However, I'm not lucid dreaming yet.

Just vaped some Calea. I can notice a difference for sure. Will report if I had any interesting dreams. Edit: Ok, I went to sleep at about 12:30. Had a weird dream where I was the antagonist gladiator in a videogame. (whaaa) Woke up at 3am and couldn't sleep until 7am. Multiple small dreams after I went back to sleep, but none as clear or memorable. So in conclusion, calea *could* work but there are side effects.

It totally does work dude. It might do you well to keep at it for a few days.

Yeah, calea has been interesting. I can remember having very vivid and detailed, coherent dreams. I just can't remember the dreams. Like I remember vague pictures and I KNOW it was super detailed at the time, I just can't recall anything specific. Also calea tastes TERRIBLE in a joint, smoking with my bowl was also gross but not gag inducing. Maybe mix with weed/tobacco?