Oneirogens - Dream every night with legal cheap stuff!
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I'm sure you could mix it.
Knowing I had dreams and barely remembering it happens quite a bit; I keep a notepad app on my phone and record my dreams there immediately when I wake from one, then I transfer them to a LibreOffice file.
An added benefit of calea that I found was that it improved my mood with a mild stimulated euphoria in the following day after I took it. Dunno if that was placebo because I wasn't expecting that at all.
I ordered some galantamine pills from Amazon. Hope this is interesting.
Just tried ordering Enthada Reedii from that link in the OP.
Can't buy it from that seller because I live in Canada.
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Well I found someone [URL="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/10-Seeds-Entada-rheedii-seeds-African-Dream-Herb-beans-/280824909821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4162780ffd&_uhb=1"]who will ship to Canada.[/URL]
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Well I just bought 10 Entada rheedii seeds. Was on bouncing bear for the calea, but they charge more for shipping than they do for an ounce of the stuff.
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Now I have an ounce of calea and 10 entada seeds on their way to my place. Thanks for the thread. Never knew about this stuff before.
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From what I read online, you can vaporize calea at 190 celcius / 394 fahrenheit, and that you waste less doing it this way. I'm hoping this is the right temperature, because my vaporizer doesn't go to 250F. I have the arizer solo, so I can only do 122° F, 365° F, 374° F, 383° F, 392° F, 401° F and 410° F.
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I can't edit my post for some reason. Anyway, I was going to correct 190°C/394°F to 190°C/374°F
° might be causing the software to panic, there was a thread on it somewhere. Uncommon symbols in posts were causing users to not be able to edit their posts.
KRATOM - Since I'm on drug court I use that it's awesome :D
Man... Good thing about being at home... I can sleep in as long as I like and get 5+ dreams every night, even several days after I stopped smoking Calea+Entada! This stuff works so great!
I've never (knowingly?) done any of these and yet some time after I started getting into psychs, I have gotten incredibly vivid and fairly coherent dreams. They feel completely real in a way that, until last year, I could not possibly have imagined.
I don't know what it is that I've taken that's caused this. Could it be DXM? Mushrooms? DMT? MDMA? Weed? A combination of any of those? All I know is that it's incredible and that even during the more mundane parts of my life, I get to experience incredible adventures filled with creativity nearly every single night.
I think I'd like to experiment with calea and dream journals, unlocking the ability to lucid dream in such a vivid environment could only be incredible.
I'm going to go dry with Calea and try repeatedly smoking Alepidea. We'll see what happens.
One thing's for sure, Alepidea makes you feel damn good. It's like a minor weed high.
Ordered some Calea.
Holy shit galantamine definitely works. I didn't go lucid but had one long drawn out adventurous vivid dream, in a pretty early rem cycle too. It was like calea on overdrive. I wish it wasn't so expensive though, I only got it because I had a gift card to spend on amazon.
I've been mainly using easy-to-acquire things like DPH and Melatonin as oneirogenics. I intend to try Calea and Galantamine once I have the money so that I can compare the experiences.
last night I combined Melatonin and DPH and had a long and vivid dream where I was driving around my city and adjacent ones and was trying to follow the rules of the road but kept reverting to "Grand Theft Auto" behaviour without noticing, and only barely managed to avoid crashing while doing tons of unsafe shit like running red lights, cutting corners, and bobbing and weaving between cars. The experience was not a lucid one.
Just got my calea delivered about 5 minutes ago. Can't wait to try this stuff out.
Kinda looks like this:
[img_thumb]http://azarius.net/images/resize/large/calea-zacatechichi-shredded.jpg[/img_thumb]
Except mine seems to have a lot less leaves, and more of those little seed looking things. Can you vape all of the shit though, or is it just the leaves or something?
[QUOTE=Mr._N;44257803]All of it.[/QUOTE]
Thank you <3
All of it.
I had my first experience with calea last night.
I started vaporizing it by itself, but stopped after 3 bowls because I was getting tired of the taste. I was feeling like a minor weed high at that point.
Then I mixed it a bit of weed, to have about 20% weed 80% calea. It improved the taste and the buzz.
When I was done vaping, I went into my bed to lay down and sleep. Now at this point, what I usually do when I'm trying to get to sleep, is I imagine things in my head. I pretty much imagine and see pleasant things until I fall asleep.
Well at one point, without noticing it, I started to dream. I started to realize I was dreaming when I noticed that I wasn't bringing up any thoughts and images in my head myself, but that it was happening itself. I was hearing, seeing and feeling things, able to move around and shit.
Shortly after I realized I was dreaming, I jolted back awake. My body had shook itself awake, and I felt like I was being shot back into my body. It was a really weird sensation. One second I felt like I was walking around town during a cold sunny day, the next I am lying down motionless in my bed. It felt like I had teleported or had my mind go somewhere else. This has happened to me many times before using calea, but this time my dream felt way more real.
After that I went back to sleep, and had some weird but cool dreams. I forget most of it now though. Can't wait to do it again tonight. I can already say it was worth the purchase.
Any recommendations for methods of brewing it into tea for best results? My living situation doesn't make smoking something strongly scented too easy.
I've been meaning to ask, how do you pronounce oneirogens?
One-eye-roh-gens?
[QUOTE=cody8295;44266764]I've been meaning to ask, how do you pronounce oneirogens?
One-eye-roh-gens?[/QUOTE]
Oh-nye-roh-gens.
The dream equivalent of a psychonaut is an oneironaut.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;44266933]Oh-nye-roh-gens.
The dream equivalent of a psychonaut is an oneironaut.[/QUOTE]
To me "Oh-'nay-roh-gens" seems to make the most sense. Wouldn't it need to be spelled "onyrogens" or something for the second syllable to be pronounced as "nye"?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;44073713]i hear a lot of complaints but i really do not find it as bad as people say. if you're pooling it in your mouth don't.
i always had it straight (or with blue lotus, or entada). maybe i'll emphasize the taste.[/QUOTE]
Do you know if you can vaporize entada, or is it just best to smoke it?
Man, I never vaped anything. I don't have a vape, well, I have a shitty "vaporizer" pen that just burns shit. I always smoked Calea mixed with entada in cigarettes, I never even thought of vaping it before you guys brought it up.
That being said, entada is a nut, which is barely even burnable, making me really doubtful that one could ever vape it.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;44267376]To me "Oh-'nay-roh-gens" seems to make the most sense. Wouldn't it need to be spelled "onyrogens" or something for the second syllable to be pronounced as "nye"?[/QUOTE]
I've heard it both ways.
I've been experimenting with solely using Alepidea amatymbica. Its slight weed-like high is nice... But I think I'm being disappointed by its dream production. I feel like I have these long, extensive dreams, then just forget all of it.
If anyone feels experienced enough with an oneirogen that I haven't included in the OP, feel free to write a blue quote snippet.
I feel like Melatonin and perhaps DPH might be worth a mention in the OP, they're very easy to acquire and in my experience they definitely have an effect on dreams. As for a snippet though, remind me to do that when it's not 6AM and I haven't been up all night drinking.
Anyone experienced with a substance is invited to write a blue quote snippet for it.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;44275518]I've been experimenting with solely using Alepidea amatymbica. Its slight weed-like high is nice... But I think I'm being disappointed by its dream production. I feel like I have these long, extensive dreams, then just forget all of it.
If anyone feels experienced enough with an oneirogen that I haven't included in the OP, feel free to write a blue quote snippet.[/QUOTE]
How much do you smoke to feel the slight weed like high?
Average-sized cigarette or two. It is a pleasant, mild effect.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;44278817]Average-sized cigarette or two. It is a pleasant, mild effect.[/QUOTE]
Added it to my to-do list. Sounds interesting. Hopefully when I run into more money I can try other oneirogens too!
After trying various things, I've forgotten how effective mere cheese is as an oneirogen :v:. I had a quesadilla an hour before bed and had a long vivid dream which involved me making out with my roommate (even though I am gay it weirded me out because he's not attractive to me), taking care of another roommate who had taken datura seeds, and watching a pet owner play with a giant black dog in the water near a harbor.
I paused my Calea use for nearly two weeks, and consumed only the Alepidea oneirogen during that time. The mild high was pleasant, but I am seriously disappointed by the dream induction (which had been reported by one user as better than Calea - not true).
I feel like a lot of the time I did have extensive dreams, but I forgot them extremely quickly on waking. Tonight I'm going back to Calea and hopefully better dreams once again,
Alepidea officially does [I]not[/I] have my firm seal of approval. I'll update the OP when I get a chance.
ALSO: The dorm watched Inception in the lobby. I was very happy to brag to everyone that I dream enough to have a tell of my own!
Alright, so, DPH. Diphenhydramine has a heavy sedating effect, which can make you doze off quickly. There might be potential here for lucidity since hypnagogia sets in pretty quickly, though I've not had much luck. DPH dreams in my experience tend to be very long and elaborate, less of the "snapshots/short scenes" effect I get in normal dreams and more of a single cohesive story-and-timeline. This in itself might in a way be a roadblock to lucidity, as it can make things seem, I dunno, "too real". By that, I mean that while the dreams are long, elaborate and generally memorable, they also tend to not be very "fantastic". They tend to involve somewhat mundane daily-life type things like me going to school or visiting family, rather than more "dreamy" things like having sex with ghosts and exploring N64-graphics world.
I do remember one incidence of DPH lucidity from years ago, though it wasn't what I would call a desirable outcome. Upon realising I was in a dream I got too excited, which normally would wake me up, but the heavy sedating effect of DPH prevented that from happening right away. Instead I got to watch as the dream tore itself apart and my efforts to control it failed, and I was stuck in some infinite incoherent warping mess of "limbo zone" for what felt like at least 15 minutes before I could finally force myself awake.
These experiences are of course my own and subjective, if other people could experiment with DPH as an oneirogen and post their experiences then we could get a clearer picture.
Melatonin is still inconclusive thus far, I need to do more tests, more comparisons to baseline etc.
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