Oneirogens - Dream every night with legal cheap stuff!
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OK it's in! Thanks dude
Hello, is there an oneirogen that can be consumed in other way than smoking, a tea maybe?
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Oh, also i live in Poland, calea is a no-no (sadly).
I haven't got any experience with Silene capensis (African dream root), but it is supposed to be very effective. I can't find any indication that it is banned either.
Damn the Polish government!
[editline]8th May 2014[/editline]
I'd earlier said in my snippet about entada rheedii that I'd heard of its use as snuff - it actually seems that people had used the hard seeds as little snuff [I]boxes[/I]... So scratch that.
[editline]Fuck evarstoayrs[/editline]
Also consider Galantamine maybe?
The Calea will be a fantastic treat in the hours or so before bed. All in all, $70.00 spent on natural dreaming herbs; I feel like an alchemist in the Elder Scrolls universe. :v:
[editline]14th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Amic;44755814]Hello, is there an oneirogen that can be consumed in other way than smoking, a tea maybe?
[editline]yee[/editline]
Oh, also i live in Poland, calea is a no-no (sadly).[/QUOTE]
From what I understand most can be either smoked or brewed in a tea. I would look into individual recipes for the specific herb you use. With Calea being illegal there in Poland you'll have to experiment with others--let me know what you find out.
This thread is awesome!
I've been smoking Calea from a pipe with tobacco mixed in, and I've got to say I'm really pleased with the results. I've been having dreams consistently, but the recall on them isn't as great as I'd like.
All and all, however, I'm giving Calea Z a big thumbs up.
EDIT:
All the research I did on the plant, along with my own experience, says that you need to let it build up in your system for a couple of days. For me, it took about five days before I started noticing a real uptick in dreaming. So, hang in there if you're going to try Calea Z.
Keeping a dream journal definitely helps recall. I keep my laptop closed at my side at night during the summer, and when I wake from a dream, as tired as I may be, I make myself record it.
Back in school I'd just use my notepad app on my phone, then transfer it later.
I'm particularly interested in Alepidea, can you snort that or any of them as you would with tobacco snuff and still get the same effects?
So, just got some Entada Rheedi from ebay, I got one of the nuts open and have a very small amount of powder.
Question is, how much is enough?
[QUOTE=SaltyWaters;44873228]So, just got some Entada Rheedi from ebay, I got one of the nuts open and have a very small amount of powder.
Question is, how much is enough?[/QUOTE]
My experience with Alepidea has been using it to supplement Calea. I'm sure it's probably effective by itself though.
You will probably have to mix it with [I]something[/I] because it's a nut and doesn't like to burn by itself. I generally mix an amount half a penny in size with a cigarette's worth of Calea. You might use tobacco or weed instead, and perhaps use a larger portion of the nut.
[editline]22nd May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kaios;44865885]I'm particularly interested in Alepidea, can you snort that or any of them as you would with tobacco snuff and still get the same effects?[/QUOTE]
I've read that it is used like that. My product came as a well-ground material resembling dirt and I did try snuffing it once or twice, but I don't know how effective it was. Overall I'm more convinced of the usefulness of Calea - the alepidea high is nice though.
I would say that adding the Entada very noticeably increased the vividness of my dreams. Looking back, I had at least three, and the fragments I remember were very clear. You mentioned that after several days you noticed the greatest effect? That sounds awesome.
Elecbullet, this is a great thread and you rock.
I'll be smoking some calea tonight, let's see if it does anything. I've been a lucid dreamer for a decade so it should in theory be more effective, than for someone who rarely remembers his dreams.
Did a bowl to test it out - the smoke is not very pleasant but it's not [I]that[/I] bad. The tea is something I don't really want to try out :v:
Will puff it before going to sleep later tonight and report the effects tomorrow (heard it needs several days of use for any noticeable improvement but anyway)
I find that I have the most interesting experiences with Calea after I have smoked or vaporized enough of it, and when I'm lying down to go to sleep. (I've always vaporized give or take 1gram, or smoked 3 regular sized joints of 40% weed 60% calea mix)
What I do is lie down in bed, lights turned off and everything, and I don't move at all for about 10-15 minutes. After that time has passed, my body starts to feel itchy in places, and I also feel like turning over, but I ignore all these feelings and keep still.
A few minutes after the itching and desire to turn over arises, I am in the state between being awake and just falling asleep.
Normally, when I don't smoke calea, during this state nothing really happens.
But when I've been smoking calea, during this time between being really asleep and being awake, I start having lucid dreams. But even though I am dreaming, I can still shake myself awake.
I really like calea for this reason. I am able to enter a lucid dream within 20 minutes or so after lying down to sleep. I will usually have an alarm set to go off about 20 minutes after I start dreaming, just in case I don't wake myself up before I start really sleeping. That way I can spend more time lucid dreaming, and remember the dreams.
I find that I don't remember most of my dreams after that though. But throughout the day, I might remember certain parts of it.
I've even done this while travelling by bus. It was about an hours ride, and I decided to just go into this light sleep. I would start dreaming within a few minutes. It's pretty awesome. Normally I can't do that unless I'm really tired or something.
I really enjoy dreaming. It feels like such a real and true experience to me. To the point that I feel as if I lead two different lives. One while I'm awake, one while I'm sleeping. Sometimes, the lessons I learn and the experiences I have while sleeping are more valuable and insightful than the ones I have while awake.
Okay it did something. The most noticeable difference was in the hypnagogic imagery. They were much more vivid and observable. Here are some of the dreams.
One was about being a black buff cop with the blackest voice imaginable doing a drug raid.
One was about being on the titanic when it was going down. This was pretty vivid, especially cutting the lifeboat ropes with the water on the deck rushing closer and closer.
Then there was a dream about waiting for food at my old school.
And a dream about being a superhero.
The invidual hypnagogic images while falling asleep, usually fade away after a few seconds. Now I could directly look at them and really observe them carefully.
Next night I'll try doubling the dose.
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
Also a dream about being an airline pilot flying a Lockheed super constellation, and we had to do an emergency landing after a fire in the electrical system.
Whenever I dream I'm always myself
So far calea has given me more "original" dreams so to say. They're basically new dream experiences, less genericism.
Last night had a really vivid dream about skiing down a Swiss mountain, it was intense. Never had a dream about that before.
You weren't kidding when you said calea tea tastes bad
I took a small sip and started laughing from the realization that this stuff, it's unreal. Just unbelievably [B]bad.[/B]
[editline]29th May 2014[/editline]
Finished the mug while gagging and holding my nose
The taste, it [I]lingers[/I]
So I slept for 13 hours. Combining both smoke and tea gave me probably the greatest dreams of my life. Not sure where to start even.
The dream felt like hours or days. It was like an alternate life. The first thing I remember after going to sleep was sinking through my bed into a lucid dream. I'll try to keep it short. In the days long dream I was a secret government employee working with alien technology. I had a wife and two children. Something happened and my wife got stuck between dimensions, and the rest of the dream was about finding a way to bring her back. It really was long, and immensely vivid. Everything was detailed, there was not much random skipping from place to place. For example during one part when I travelled to an alien world I boarded the shuttle with the other guys and strapped on my belts, roared to the sky and after a while we could see the planet approaching.
A lot of stuff happened during this dream, which is an understatement. I've only scratched the surface in this post. Everything from discussions, to travelling to different places, to military training, to interactions with my friends and children, doing research projects etc. But anyways at the end our diplomacy kind of failed and one of the aliens flooded the entire earth like back in the biblical times. I do recall getting my wife back though. It made me incredibly happy.
When I woke up I was confused due to the length of the dream. It took me a while to realize I was back in the real world. It really felt like I was in the dream for all of those 13 hours if not longer, as if that had been my life.
So yeah. Tea and smoke combo. Do it.
Hello dream drugs thread, I am very new to this legal drug stuff and has no idea which sites to trust or not. I want me some Alepidea Amatymbica, because reading around the web it seems like an overall neat drug that fits my purposes.
So far a website called BouncingBearsBotanicals([url]http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/[/url]) is what I know of that sells the product but their nineties website design makes me not want to input my credit card credentials, what are some go-to sites in this field ?
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
(That ships to Europe!!!!)
Well, being an American I don't know anything about shipping to Europe but I've purchased from BBB several times without issue, they actually seem very trustworthy in all honesty.
I just bought from a reliable finnish webstore ([url]www.yrttilato.fi[/url]), the package arrived on my doorstep the very next day. I was thinking about BBB but it was too much of a hassle, but from what I've heard it's quite reliable.
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
I'm still thinking of how insane last night was - can't wait for tonight.
[I]The Tea[/I] is brewing next to me
it's worth it. it's worth it, it better be ;_;
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
SO
BAD
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
im off to have another life for the next 10 hours
damn son you used it like three days and you already understand it ten times better than me
Anyone know of this site:
[URL]http://www.thebotanicalsource.com/[/URL] ??? In extension of my earlier post.
They seem to ship to Europe.
Currently sipping some calea tea. It's remarkably bitter, but not nearly the foulest thing ever. To be perfectly honest, it is pretty OK.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;44957262]damn son you used it like three days and you already understand it ten times better than me[/QUOTE]
What do you mean by understanding?
Also last night was spent as Hitler's personal aide except he defeated Russia, had a kid with Eva and when they both grew old and died we buried them in Afganistan :v:
[QUOTE=Orkel;44954824][I]The Tea[/I] is brewing next to me
it's worth it. it's worth it, it better be ;_;
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
SO
BAD
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
im off to have another life for the next 10 hours[/QUOTE]
after drinking a vile concoction of amanita muscaria, foxglove and st john's wart (powder from capsules), nothing else can seem as bad. this was less of a tea and more of a heinous poison.
[QUOTE=Orkel;44958841]What do you mean by understanding?
Also last night was spent as Hitler's personal aide except he defeated Russia, had a kid with Eva and when they both grew old and died we buried them in Afganistan :v:[/QUOTE]
Describing the effects, and how to get a tremendous effect out of them, I guess.
I just started writing in my dream journal. Weird stuff
Jesus christ.
I feel really bad because I was indecent to a very sweet girl in my dream.
What the fuck man.
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