Whale Wars - General - Facepunch Forum

[QUOTE=hurts;16708487]Like what? Whales provide many valuable resources, such as blubber, which I believe is used in cosmetics (or is that oil? or something else?) which is a billion dollar industry, [B]the meat is perfectly edible[/B], etc. There is very little difference between harpooning a Minke whale and shooting a deer. As long as both are done in regulation, there is no problem.[/QUOTE] Some whale meat contains mercury. If eaten to much you will develop problems. :eng101: broke my automerge :(

[QUOTE=hurts;16708571]There are well over a billion trees- they are not in danger of all being cut down because of the fact that the public knows about the excessive chopping down of trees and most do not support it- the same is true for whales. There is also the fact that both of these organisms reproduce- it would be very hard to do enough damage to the Minke whale population to actually seriously begin harming it, especially due to the quota placed on the number of whales that can be killed.[/QUOTE] You underestimate human tenacity. Plus it isn't just minke whales, god damn. These whalers have the IQ of a fucking gnat and don't have the time (or will, or motive, or fear of god(so to speak)) to pin down what species of whale they're harpooning before they've stuck it to death.

[QUOTE=OvB;16708609]Some whale meat contains mercury. If eaten to much you will develop problems. :eng101:[/QUOTE] Oh. Although I'd imagine whale meat laden with mercury is rather rare/

[QUOTE=hurts;16708594]Ah but it sells.[/QUOTE] That's because rich blond women are stupid.

[QUOTE=OvB;16708609]Some whale meat contains mercury. If eaten to much you will develop problems. :eng101: broke my automerge :([/QUOTE] Feh, Shit happens. Loads of meat is inedible right out of the animal.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708629]You underestimate human tenacity. Plus it isn't just minke whales, god damn. These whalers have the IQ of a fucking gnat and don't have the time (or will, or motive, or fear of god(so to speak)) to pin down what species of whale they're harpooning before they've stuck it to death.[/QUOTE] What? The whalers in the Antarctic ocean hunt minke and one other type of whales (I can't remember them, but there is a quota of fifty on them- I'm assuming this means they are endangered. As for the IQ of a gnat, BRAVO. BRA-VO. You probably just generalized 10,000 or so people around the world who work as whalers. [editline]12:48AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16708673]That's because rich blond women are stupid.[/QUOTE] Captain Obvious to the rescue. That being said the cosmetics industry is a good thing- it does make money.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16708673]That's because rich blond women are stupid.[/QUOTE] You're American right? Well trust us when we say that anything that encourages spending is a good thing.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708629]You underestimate human tenacity. Plus it isn't just minke whales, god damn. These whalers have the IQ of a fucking gnat and don't have the time (or will, or motive, or fear of god(so to speak)) to pin down what species of whale they're harpooning before they've stuck it to death.[/QUOTE] You can't mistake a Minke for a Blue or Humpback or any other large whale. Though a lot of blue whale meat ends up in meat markets. That is probably not directly related to the Japanese Antarctic Fleet. If they come from any JWA fleet it would be the Pacific.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708629]You underestimate human tenacity. Plus it isn't just minke whales, god damn. These whalers have the IQ of a fucking gnat and don't have the time (or will, or motive, or fear of god(so to speak)) to pin down what species of whale they're harpooning before they've stuck it to death.[/QUOTE] You are so wrong it isn't funny. It [B]is only[/B] Minke whales. They only hunt Minke whales because that's all they are allowed to hunt. If a regular hunter buys a tag for hunting elk, he is going to make sure it is an elk he is about to shoot and not a fucking moose. Their careers are on the line, they know what they are doing.

[QUOTE=OvB;16708694][B]You can't mistake a Minke for a Blue or Humpback or any other large whal[/B]e. Though a lot of blue whale meat ends up in meat markets. That is probably not directly related to the Japanese Antarctic Fleet. If they come from any JWA fleet it would be the Pacific.[/QUOTE] No you can't. But they don't CARE. There's no reason to, they act with impunity.

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708326]Salmon actually can't be farmed with the issues surrounding them. Sea lions off the west coast are stopping salmon from reaching their breeding grounds, along with dams and other man-made obstacles. I suspect whales will be saved, at some point when it is very crucial a bunch of scientists will descend upon them and bring them back up to a good population, it will just require a strong signal, such as "hey guys, there's only like 50 of them left lol!"[/QUOTE] It's hard to save an endangered species with only 50 left. Most species are declared endangered with well over just 50. Even if someone wanted to save them at that point it would be very difficult, the value of the whale by then would probably just go up. It would be far easier stopping it now then put it off until later. Why do you think teachers advise students to do their homework early instead of the last minute?

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708726]No you can't. But they don't CARE. There's no reason to, they act with impunity.[/QUOTE] Are you: A. Currently not sober. B. Seriously misinformed or, C: Trolling.

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708700]You are so wrong it isn't funny. It [B]is only[/B] Minke whales. They only hunt Minke whales because that's all they are allowed to hunt. If a regular hunter buys a tag for hunting elk, he is going to make sure it is an elk he is about to shoot and not a fucking moose. Their careers are on the line, they know what they are doing.[/QUOTE] There is no tag system, The Japanese government doesn't regulate whalers at all. That's where the issue lies.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708726]No you can't. But they don't CARE. There's no reason to, they act with impunity.[/QUOTE] Yes, they DO care you ignorant moron. It is their career that is on the line. Like I said, if your job sent you hunting elk you would make damn well sure you were reeling in elk and not fucking moose. [editline]09:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Turrngait;16708763]There is no tag system, The Japanese government doesn't regulate whalers at all. That's where the issue lies.[/QUOTE] Give me a fucking source on this. And besides that, it doesn't matter, the IWC regulates the whalers.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708763]There is no tag system, The Japanese government doesn't regulate whalers at all. That's where the issue lies.[/QUOTE] Here's an example for you: I have a license to hunt European Northern Red Squirrel. I live in Russia (it is irrelevant whether there are any of the above species in Russia.) I go out to Siberia and SHOOT A SIBERIAN TIGER. Will I get in trouble? LOL NOPE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE OLOLOL. Not only did I just go from a non-endangered animal to an endangered one but I have no license to do so. I have to imagine the same applies for whaling, and the rules for whaling enforced by the IWC.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708692]You're American right? Well trust us when we say that anything that encourages spending is a good thing.[/QUOTE] It's not. Oh dear God, trust me it's not. It's like encouraging the growth of a flesh eating virus. Sure, it's all in bottles at first, but then it breaks out and you're surrounded by fucking freaks.

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708766]Yes, they DO care you ignorant moron. It is their career that is on the line. Like I said, if your job sent you hunting elk you would make damn well sure you were reeling in elk and not fucking moose.[/QUOTE] People will always do what they know they can get away with.

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708700]You are so wrong it isn't funny. It [B]is only[/B] Minke whales. They only hunt Minke whales because that's all they are allowed to hunt. If a regular hunter buys a tag for hunting elk, he is going to make sure it is an elk he is about to shoot and not a fucking moose. Their careers are on the line, they know what they are doing.[/QUOTE] That's true on paper but it was already previously stated in the thread that other species of whales illegally show up on the market.

[QUOTE=Agent_Wesker;16708807]People will always do what they know they can get away with.[/QUOTE] Except they CAN'T get away with it. The IWC regulates the fuck out of whaling. It's the IWC's job. They are only going to hunt what they are allowed to hunt, if they don't they lose their jobs and are fined thousands of dollars.

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708766]Yes, they DO care you ignorant moron. It is their career that is on the line. Like I said, if your job sent you hunting elk you would make damn well sure you were reeling in elk and not fucking moose. [editline]09:53PM[/editline] Give me a fucking source on this. And besides that, it doesn't matter, the IWC regulates the whalers.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200511/s1499924.htm[/url] [url]http://www.highnorth.no/Library/Publications/Iceland/wh-an-in.htm[/url] Japanese whalers aren't obeying international laws. What's the fucking issue here?

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;16708819]That's true on paper but it was already previously stated in the thread that other species of whales illegally show up on the market.[/QUOTE] That's not established whaling corporations, those are privateering ships that go out on their own as part of the black market.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16708798]It's not. Oh dear God, trust me it's not. It's like encouraging the growth of a flesh eating virus. Sure, it's all in bottles at first, but then it breaks out and you're surrounded by fucking freaks.[/QUOTE] In America? too late :v:

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;16708819]That's true on paper but it was already previously stated in the thread that other species of whales illegally show up on the market.[/QUOTE] Not from the Antarctic fleet. Pop quiz: how many blue whales are there in the Antarctic ocean?

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708851]That's not established whaling corporations, those are privateering ships that go out on their own as part of the black market.[/QUOTE] "Privateers don't exist because it's not on ink"

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708837][url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200511/s1499924.htm[/url] [url]http://www.highnorth.no/Library/Publications/Iceland/wh-an-in.htm[/url] Japanese whalers aren't obeying international laws. What's the fucking issue here?[/QUOTE] They are obeying international laws stating what they are allowed to hunt and the number. You are saying they hunt whales illegally. They don't. They do, however, use the whale carcasses for the wrong purposes by selling it on the Japanese meat market.

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708852]In America? too late :v:[/QUOTE] Exactly. Take our situation as a lesson, or you too will be surrounded by retarded sluts with an attention fetish who are confused by tuna and other ordinary everyday objects.

[QUOTE=hurts;16708858]Not from the Antarctic fleet. Pop quiz: how many blue whales are there in the Antarctic ocean?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw_asia_pacific/media_center/press_releases/01_20_2009_51771.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Turrngait;16708837][url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200511/s1499924.htm[/url] [url]http://www.highnorth.no/Library/Publications/Iceland/wh-an-in.htm[/url] Japanese whalers aren't obeying international laws. What's the fucking issue here?[/QUOTE] Sigh. Okay, let's say the Antarctic fleet decides to hunt Hump-back whales. OOPS! We're in Antarctica! Anybody seen any hump-back whales?

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16708851]That's not established whaling corporations, those are privateering ships that go out on their own as part of the black market.[/QUOTE] That's doubtful, for the amount of equipment necessary to whale, I'd assume it would be done by the same parties hunting the minkes, especially since minkes are one of the smallest whale species on earth. Meaning it would be a bit strange for privateering black market pirates to be able to do the same hauls with larger whales and get away with it.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16708883]Exactly. Take our situation as a lesson, or you too will be surrounded by retarded sluts with an attention fetish who are confused by tuna and other ordinary everyday objects.[/QUOTE] Meh, I'd take it along with several other factors. Plus every country has that to a greater or lesser extent. They're the lowest common denominator. [editline]04:59AM[/editline] [QUOTE=hurts;16708893]Sigh. Okay, let's say the Antarctic fleet decides to hunt Hump-back whales. OOPS! We're in Antarctica! Anybody seen any hump-back whales?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw_asia_pacific/media_center/press_releases/01_20_2009_51771.php[/url] Durrrrr hurrrrr yawpyawpyawpyawp!