Creative Work That Doesn't Deserve A Thread V6 <3v3ryb0dy Hypocrite Critiques Edition>
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Think of it this way, would you draw with a pencil that has it's lead almost completely covered by wood?
Because that's what youre pretty much doing.
[QUOTE=1chains1;29249417]Think of it this way, would you draw with a pencil that has it's lead almost completely covered by wood?
Because that's what youre pretty much doing.[/QUOTE]
I know, I am going to fix my brush settings but I hadn't read what was wrong before I drew that :v:
Although everyone uses hard and soft pencils, so I'm guessing low opacity isn't 100% bad.
Opacity should not go under 85%, use lower flow if you want to blend, and even that is no lower then 75%.
[QUOTE=1chains1;29249746]Opacity should not go under 85%, use lower flow if you want to blend, and even that is no lower then 75%.[/QUOTE]
cool, thanks :buddy:
I don't know why I keep enticing my own shame on this forum by posting my drawings, but I figured that since I am drawing in shades of gray, I'd try to draw a grayscale picture
[media]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/437089/IMG_0056.JPG[/media]
critique please.... :\
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;29251543]I don't know why I keep enticing my own shame on this forum by posting my drawings, but I figured that since I am drawing in shades of gray, I'd try to draw a grayscale picture
[media]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/437089/IMG_0056.JPG[/media]
critique please.... :\[/QUOTE]
study head anatomy
space hitler
I can't get his eyes and nose in the correct spot.
or anything else, it would seem
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
i wish i was a naturally good artist though, it seems as though i may have to take an art class or read up on anatomy as detlef suggested sometime
I think you should put drawing people on the back burner bro.
Start drawing stuff from real life. Just use line, don't use faggot ass shading until your proportions are 100% accurate.
I'm not interested in drawing most things from real life. Will doing that help my ability to draw faces? How were the proportions in my chair drawing?
You have to work your way up nerd
[editline]17th April 2011[/editline]
It doesn't even matter. Drawing from life helps your instinct on finding proportions.
but how? when i draw something and i look at it and its off, how will my instinct in finding proportions be helped?
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;29253138]but how? when i draw something and i look at it and its off, how will my instinct in finding proportions be helped?[/QUOTE]
Because the more you do something, the better you get at it. That is a process otherwise known as practice.
Drawing from life is good because you have an unlimited supply of references and perspectives.
I'm gonna make some art in celebration of my becoming a gold member.
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;29253138]but how? when i draw something and i look at it and its off, how will my instinct in finding proportions be helped?[/QUOTE]
u will learn with time grasshopper
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;29253138]but how? when i draw something and i look at it and its off, how will my instinct in finding proportions be helped?[/QUOTE]
A better answer as to how life drawing will help you improve with practice is because of your two eyes. With depth perception, you will naturally and subconsciously push the distance and lengths of all your proportions without knowing it, in comparison to drawing from a 2d image. This automatically gives you a better advantage at drawing down good proportions. Although it's also not about just getting a lot of practice down, that helps, but it also helps to get critique so if you don't catch the mistakes you make others can do it for you. And it will be your job to exclude those mistakes from your next creations.
Okay so I printed my personal logo out and decided I didn't like it. Back to the drawing board, making sure to this time only start out in black and white without text before trying to use color and text.
Here's my first "set" I made trying out ideas with a similar concept (compass motif, avoiding a purely modern or minimalistic style, complexity [whether implied or literal], earthy, "introverted" [not too loud or bold], and a dash of techy)
[IMG]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/logo-13.png[/IMG]
Pretty similar to what I oringally had but I made some tweaks to contrast, got rid of the "NSWE" on the compass as I felt it wasn't nessicary, etc.
Next set I did I toyed with the idea of incorporating it in some kind of emblem (my text would either be inside the emblem, or to the right of it with the baseline being the baseline of the emblem):
[IMG]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/logo-14.png[/IMG]
Not sure if I am totally sold on the idea since by itself it almost looks like the back of a trading card. With text, it probably wont but even if it did, that might be an interesting idea to draw inspiration from so maybe it's not so bad that way.
I quickly played around with it to hypothetically show what it might look like in actual usage, using a light shadow:
[IMG]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/logo-15.png[/IMG]
Not sure if I'm sold on that. Especially since I just realized the main part in my logo looks scarily like the logo for my school:
[img]http://www.rrscs.org/images/Sinclair_logo.gif[/img]
Any thoughts?
That's a sexy school logo.
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;29252915]I'm not interested in drawing most things from real life. Will doing that help my ability to draw faces? How were the proportions in my chair drawing?[/QUOTE]
You are not going to be able to simply focus and improve in only one subject matter. It doesn't work like that (unless you try exceptionally hard for that to be so (and even then, not so much)).
You are not going to be able to improve if you are not willing to try, especially if you are not willing to try things that you don't want to do and are most likely uncomfortable doing.
The secret to a lot of what being good at art is being able to appreciate the details in even mundane things, and seeing how mundane things can become beautiful (and why they would be).
Being able to draw the mundane well and beautifying it means you develop an eye for mundane detail (in shape, proportion, texture, shading, etc) that really makes any style of any artwork beautiful, mundane or not. Before piccasso painted what made him famous, he did a lot of hyper-realistic drawings. His deep understanding of "mundane" details present in everything is what allowed his later more abstract work to become more than just shapes put together.
I know it's hard to put forth motivation to draw boring things, but there's ways putting your own spin on it to make it not so boring. Draw mundane objects that have a connection to you or you find interesting. Go into drawing things not with the mindset of "Oh, time to start drawing this flower, I hope it'll look good", but go into drawing with a keen desire to learn the complex forms that make up a visual picture. Instead of focusing on the flower, take note of the texture of the petal and the smooth curved forms they produce.
Pretend like you don't even know what your drawing at all as if you are some distant alien first drawing something from Earth - just draw the pure forms and details as you see it, and mentally note how it all fits together visually. Don't define objects as you draw: I.E. don't go, "Hmm I'll draw this petal". Go "Hmm, this form produces an almost S-like shape in comparision to the other side of this form". This is important to get into the "groove" of artwork, as a lot of it is an intuitive process, something derived from the right side of your brain. The left side is very logical and analytical and loves to define things. While this can be good to set up creative ideas on subjects you want to draw, it tends to get in the way of the actual process of drawing and keeps you from seeing the pure forms and beautiful shapes that even mundane objects hold. Bar stuff like proportion checking of course - but that's still not defining the objects you are drawing, its measuring the visual form of what you are drawing to check for accuracy.
All of this takes plenty of practice to master these "techniques" to a point where it's easy to get into that "art mode". I'm not a master myself but I know I find drawing (whenever I do happen to practice it) much easier to grasp when using the above mindset.
Okay so Ive been working on the art work for my second album 'Caustic Spider' and it's very slowly coming together.
For ages I was stuck on how to present it but I think I'm onto something here.
I Like to use various Insignia's for each album but am undecided as to use an image/drawing of a spider.
So heres what I made just to start myself off.
[b]CLICK TO ENLARGE[/b]
[IMG_THUMB]http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad140/Loki_zr/Untitled-1.png[/IMG_THUMB]
And the Insignia that I've chosen to use.
[IMG_THUMB]http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad140/Loki_zr/insigneaSphere.png[/IMG_THUMB]
The first spider design was pretty crap so I went in for a second take.
[IMG_THUMB]http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad140/Loki_zr/Attempt2.png[/IMG_THUMB]
And the Finished result of my work with the insignia.
[IMG_THUMB]http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad140/Loki_zr/3DInsignea.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
Everyone has been saying not to use low opacity brushes, and not to go under 85% Yet I was sent this video where he goes 60% and under for blending.
Now I'm just confused, what do I do, use 100% Opacity and 40% Flow?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi_3HymnpXE&feature=player_embedded#at=217[/media]
And his paintings are amazing. (look at his deviantart)
[QUOTE=Khaos-23;29262803]Everyone has been saying not to use low opacity brushes, and not to go under 85% Yet I was sent this video where he goes 60% and under for blending.
Now I'm just confused, what do I do, use 100% Opacity and 40% Flow?[/QUOTE]
very low flow looks better than low opacity, detlef posted a picture about this a while ago. In fact, detlef has a picture for every amateur painting technique
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
Also, Rusty you sound like an animator called Josiah Brooks
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
well, he's a singer too
not large
[media]http://gyazo.com/2798f4a20f424e5e4997b41e9e4f731a.png[/media]
Imma just fill a 1920x1080 space with this type of annotated shit and practice.. well everything since i lost my sketchbook at another house.
Someone said i should practice faces so I'm just going to start on that now.
hobo w/ a shotgun design
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482927/hobo%20with%20a%20shotgun%20design.png[/img]
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
i need to add a strap
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
there u go i drew a strap
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482927/hobo%20with%20a%20shotgun%20design%20plus%20strap%20action.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Rusty100;29263166]hobo w/ a shotgun design
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482927/hobo%20with%20a%20shotgun%20design.png[/img_thumb]
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
i need to add a strap
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
there u go i drew a strap
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482927/hobo%20with%20a%20shotgun%20design%20plus%20strap%20action.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
The round release thingy majiggy looks a bit screwy, but other than that, it looks really good.
i dont know much about guns so idk
mostly been fucking around not really doing anything really productive twords learning how to draw faces.
moreso being schizophrenic
[media]http://gyazo.com/7583d59259d07f381a4540b3a9faebdc.png[/media]
[media]http://gyazo.com/73cf7baded4971d4cebad99e263e3150.png[/media]
guy below me has better shit to talk about though go see him.
Here's something I started today. First proper attempt at Photoshop painting.
[media]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7991/facepreview2.jpg[/media]
[QUOTE=KorJax;29258759]Okay so I printed my personal logo out and decided I didn't like it. Back to the drawing board, making sure to this time only start out in black and white without text before trying to use color and text.
Here's my first "set" I made trying out ideas with a similar concept (compass motif, avoiding a purely modern or minimalistic style, complexity [whether implied or literal], earthy, "introverted" [not too loud or bold], and a dash of techy)
[img_thumb]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/logo-13.png[/img_thumb]
Pretty similar to what I oringally had but I made some tweaks to contrast, got rid of the "NSWE" on the compass as I felt it wasn't nessicary, etc.
Next set I did I toyed with the idea of incorporating it in some kind of emblem (my text would either be inside the emblem, or to the right of it with the baseline being the baseline of the emblem):
[img_thumb]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/logo-14.png[/img_thumb]
Not sure if I am totally sold on the idea since by itself it almost looks like the back of a trading card. With text, it probably wont but even if it did, that might be an interesting idea to draw inspiration from so maybe it's not so bad that way.
I quickly played around with it to hypothetically show what it might look like in actual usage, using a light shadow:
[img_thumb]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/logo-15.png[/img_thumb]
Not sure if I'm sold on that. Especially since I just realized the main part in my logo looks scarily like the logo for my school:
[img_thumb]http://www.rrscs.org/images/Sinclair_logo.gif[/img_thumb]
Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
it's a nice looking logo, but you seem to keep these messy lines in, and i think you lose a lot of "professionalism" in doing that. keep the lines neat and i think it'll look even better.
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