Creative Work That Doesn't Deserve A Thread V6 <3v3ryb0dy Hypocrite Critiques Edition> - General

[IMg]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/073/8/5/portret_by_infernomonster-d3bmfc6.jpg[/IMG] Did a portrait yesterday. Reference image was such:[img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/182842_134303893303289_100001710373409_203222_7144001_n.jpg[/img_thumb] The paper was just really really horrible, bought new today. Used a grid and then some other tricks to get it look even a bit alike. [editline]14th March 2011[/editline] fixed the lump on forehead and made pupils darker. Different hardness pencils act randomly on this paper. Such is quality in soviet russia.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;28601018][img_thumb]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/073/8/5/portret_by_infernomonster-d3bmfc6.jpg[/img_thumb] Did a portrait yesterday. Reference image was such:[img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/182842_134303893303289_100001710373409_203222_7144001_n.jpg[/img_thumb] The paper was just really really horrible, bought new today. Used a grid and then some other tricks to get it look even a bit alike. [editline]14th March 2011[/editline] fixed the lump on forehead and made pupils darker. Different hardness pencils act randomly on this paper. Such is quality in soviet russia.[/QUOTE] Looks good, but I still recommend that you check up on some head anatomy to get a better understandment of what you're doing. And it might be just the paper but the valueas are really off, they are too light. The areas that are dark should be colored solid, now it just looks messy.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;28601018][img_thumb]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/073/8/5/portret_by_infernomonster-d3bmfc6.jpg[/img_thumb] Did a portrait yesterday. Reference image was such:[img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/182842_134303893303289_100001710373409_203222_7144001_n.jpg[/img_thumb] The paper was just really really horrible, bought new today. Used a grid and then some other tricks to get it look even a bit alike. [editline]14th March 2011[/editline] fixed the lump on forehead and made pupils darker. Different hardness pencils act randomly on this paper. Such is quality in soviet russia.[/QUOTE] I don't think you realize how to utilize charcoal. It looks like your using it like a pencil. Charcoal is meant to be spread and layered to make shades whereas you are just drawing it on and calling it good. I don't think you are grasping values properly either. Your shadows and highlights are way off and almost everything looks midtone. I have a challenge for you. Don't come back here until you understand how it works. Buh- Buh- No! You don't get to comment on anyone else's work until you fix your own.

I'm laughing. I'll laugh even harder when you find out.

[QUOTE=Van.;28599487]Actually I do Intend on improving, but when you call you eyerape criticism it's hard to learn from that, how about you give some constructive feedbadck instead of saying everything i do is shit or dumb. honestly, critique your heart out and i will not discard it[/QUOTE] We call your stuff eye-rape because you are not drawing it yourself. You're smearing out an already existing image. You're not drawing it from scratch. You're not picking the colours. You're not drawing the shapes. You're not doing jack shit but take a brush and smear it around over an image you liked. Do something by yourself then maybe we'll help you.

[QUOTE=Detlef;28601597]Looks good, but I still recommend that you check up on some head anatomy to get a better understandment of what you're doing. And it might be just the paper but the valueas are really off, they are too light. The areas that are dark should be colored solid, now it just looks messy.[/QUOTE] I can blame the paper, really. I don't have the full grasp how to use values to be honest but the paper is not really helping. It has random spots that go full dark and random spots where a 3b don't go any darker than HB. I'll go over the darker areas tomorrow morning or something, I just noticed how uneven they look. while they're not that bad in real life the edit makes it look horrid.

[QUOTE=onox37;28601658]I don't think you realize how to utilize charcoal. It looks like your using it like a pencil. Charcoal is meant to be spread and layered to make shades whereas you are just drawing it on and calling it good. I don't think you are grasping values properly either. Your shadows and highlights are way off and almost everything looks midtone. I have a challenge for you. Don't come back here until you understand how it works. Buh- Buh- No! You don't get to comment on anyone else's work until you fix your own.[/QUOTE] It's funny because... [I]He used a variety of pencils[/I]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QgUBC.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/g0teJ.png[/IMG] Okay time to go and learn how to draw properly. This style is fun but I can't ride on it forever.

Jesus christ I leave for a couple of days and I come back to see everyone being horrible to each other in this god damn thread. You kids kill off creativity like megan foxs' weird thumbs kill my boner. I mean honestly, grow the fuck up. Harsh criticism is un-needed and a horrible way to help people, and quit giving bullshit excuses about tough love. Conceptart.org is a fucking PROFESSIONAL site devoted completely to art while this is a tiny fucking sub forum inside of a hypo forum section inside of a giant ass forum for a site concerning a mod. The people at Concept art are extremely polite and while they may be a little blunt sometimes, never have they been rude or down right insulted someones work. What then, makes you little shit heads think you have the right to be jackasses when you do not even have mod status nor the professional authority to be so egotistical. A majority of these people do not even have artistic careers in mind, and are simply producing art because they ENJOY it. That means they are doing it as a hobby and you kids are getting your boxers/panties what ever the fuck you wear in a knot over people who are not even remotely serious. Cut the shit.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;28599637]suppose you're gonna start calling black people who use 'nigger' dumbasses too when you're neither gay, nor black a round of applause to you though i seem to have confused my point because i can't say the n word either, my point is that you can come down off your high, politically correct horse for a while to see that most gay people aren't actually offended by it anymore as it's totally lost it's homosexual connotations when used in this way. most people are way too above it to care happens a lot in the english language, deal with it[/QUOTE] You're completely missing the point. Gay doesnt mean anything descriptive other than happy, and to think otherwise [I]and[/I] use it in a sentence is fucking childish, especially considering you're supposed to be giving feedback as a moderator.

That pink cloud swirly thing is seriously cool.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;28602118]That pink cloud swirly thing is seriously cool.[/QUOTE] see it impresses people. But I know inside that I actually can't draw for shit. If someone asked me to draw a face, or a person, I'd fuck it up. And that makes me sad sometimes.

Work on it in the background?

[QUOTE=Barnhouse;28602128]see it impresses people. But I know inside that I actually can't draw for shit. If someone asked me to draw a face, or a person, I'd fuck it up. And that makes me sad sometimes.[/QUOTE] You can draw. You just can't draw organic living things. You could do great as a grafitti artist or abstract illustrator. But always a good idea to know how to draw properly too of course. Then you can mix them together or take experience from the one thing and apply it to the other to make it even better.

[QUOTE=dgg;28602188]You can draw. You just can't draw organic living things. You could do great as a grafitti artist.[/QUOTE] Thanks man. Appreciate it :smile:

[QUOTE=Barnhouse;28602208]Thanks man. Appreciate it :smile:[/QUOTE] Do you have a graphics tablet and photoshop knowledge?

[QUOTE=cyanidem;28602230]Do you have a graphics tablet and photoshop knowledge?[/QUOTE] The kind of works he's doing is better left on paper and then possibly traced over with Illustrator or Flash to vectorise it. The flow and thick lines is much easilier produced with a pen and paper than a tablet and Photoshop. It also contains way more life and uniqueness.

I agree with dgg there, but yes I have photoshop knowledge and a tablet. I wanna start drawing some characters. Need ideas.

draw penisbutt

Or analbag.

both equally terrible ideas.

I disagree, I think vector would look good give enough fine detailing, but it's nothing unique for sure. I was thinking more of complex compositions, intergrating & manipulating your hand-drawn work into something more grand.

I think he should postpone for a while. Getting good at handwork first then going over to digital.

[QUOTE=1chains1;28601964]Jesus christ I leave for a couple of days and I come back to see everyone being horrible to each other in this god damn thread. You kids kill off creativity like megan foxs' weird thumbs kill my boner. I mean honestly, grow the fuck up. Harsh criticism is un-needed and a horrible way to help people, and quit giving bullshit excuses about tough love. Conceptart.org is a fucking PROFESSIONAL site devoted completely to art while this is a tiny fucking sub forum inside of a hypo forum section inside of a giant ass forum for a site concerning a mod. The people at Concept art are extremely polite and while they may be a little blunt sometimes, never have they been rude or down right insulted someones work. What then, makes you little shit heads think you have the right to be jackasses when you do not even have mod status nor the professional authority to be so egotistical. A majority of these people do not even have artistic careers in mind, and are simply producing art because they ENJOY it. That means they are doing it as a hobby and you kids are getting your boxers/panties what ever the fuck you wear in a knot over people who are not even remotely serious. Cut the shit.[/QUOTE] And I'm just lurking in here with the popcorn, it's actually really fun, good way to spend a monday night.

[QUOTE=cyanidem;28602525]I disagree, I think vector would look good give enough fine detailing, but it's nothing unique for sure. I was thinking more of complex compositions, intergrating & manipulating your hand-drawn work into something more grand.[/QUOTE] I said drawing on paper gives it a more unique feeling than the stiffness most digital works suffers from. Vectors are usually too perfect. Digital paintings don't have those human faults and differences in them. It's too affected by perfection and being able to work at pixel levels, being able to blow up the smallest part by a shitton and change that little thing right there. Digital work can of course achieve something even grander than most traditional works, but not all that often.

[QUOTE=strider;28599355]hey ghostposter cool avatar lol!![/QUOTE] yeah thanks for stealing it from me!!!!

[QUOTE=dgg;28603335]I said drawing on paper gives it a more unique feeling than the stiffness most digital works suffers from. Vectors are usually too perfect. Digital paintings don't have those human faults and differences in them. It's too affected by perfection and being able to work at pixel levels, being able to blow up the smallest part by a shitton and change that little thing right there. Digital work can of course achieve something even grander than most traditional works, but not all that often.[/QUOTE] I totally agree. Like if all the background circle things in my "BORING!" piece were perfect, or all the lines in the background of that pink cloud piece were perfect, it would just be boring. I love the imperfections. I know that sounds like a shitty artist's excuse, but it's true.

[QUOTE=Barnhouse;28603455]I totally agree. Like if all the background circle things in my "BORING!" piece were perfect, or all the lines in the background of that pink cloud piece were perfect, it would just be boring. I love the imperfections. I know that sounds like a shitty artist's excuse, but it's true.[/QUOTE] Imperfections creates variety. Variety is very attractive to the eye. But it doesn't create big variety because the circles are still circles and they look alike, but not so much that they become unvaried and boring and turns into a pattern. But with that said I also dig perfectionistic art, like simplistic patterns.

Is the page broken for anyone else? Edit: Nevermind

[QUOTE=dgg;28603515]Imperfections creates variety. Variety is very attractive to the eye. But it doesn't create big variety because the circles are still circles and they look alike, but not so much that they become unvaried and boring and turns into a pattern. But with that said I also dig perfectionistic art, like simplistic patterns.[/QUOTE] Actually the eye enjoys symmetry, that is why it is so difficult to make natural things natural as we subconsciously try to make everything uniform when naturally it isnt.