• Silk Road - Your Local Drug Dealer Is Now a Computer
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Would it be safe to order some LSD from SK in Belgium? I find the whole postage thing a bit dangerous but i kinda wan't to try it once.
[QUOTE=0lenny0;43838398]Would it be safe to order some LSD from SK in Belgium? I find the whole postage thing a bit dangerous but i kinda wan't to try it once.[/QUOTE] Try to order it only from vendors in your region to avoid Customs searches. Also find a vendor who has much positive feedback.
[QUOTE=0lenny0;43838398]Would it be safe to order some LSD from SK in Belgium? I find the whole postage thing a bit dangerous but i kinda wan't to try it once.[/QUOTE] shouldnt be a problem, but it depends on what customs in your country is like i've ordered from overseas multiple times and it just looked like a letter like you'd get from a bank customs in the uk are pretty lax unless you're importing dealer-like quanitities, though - the most you will get is a letter from customs telling you that your package has been seized. unsure of what customs are like in belgium but theres barely any chance of your mail being intercepted anyway. especially for something like lsd - it's incredibly easy to discreetly package lsd what you have to remember too is that even if your package is intercepted, there's no real way they can prove that you placed the order if you've tumbled your btc properly and sent all your mailing details via pgp encription. the only thing that could get you caught is if you have username/password info stored locally on your pc somewhere. everything btc and sr related is anonymous, untraceable, and encrypted it's always better to buy locally of course, but all things considered there isn't much to be paranoid about.
LSD is not going to ever be caught. It's a tiny strip of paper...you could put it in what looks like a normal bill and it would never be checked.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43849528]LSD is not going to ever be caught. It's a tiny strip of paper...you could put it in what looks like a normal bill and it would never be checked.[/QUOTE] Yeah but you never know if it's going to be exposed to heat or other variables that could cause it to lose intensity.
Yeah and you'll never know if that Coke has been up someone's ass hole :p
[QUOTE=cody8295;43849905]Yeah but you never know if it's going to be exposed to heat or other variables that could cause it to lose intensity.[/QUOTE]They're typically sealed so it's pretty unlikely and not to mention you'll lose very little. LSD is resilient.
It's already ordered, guess i'll have to wait now.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43850175]They're typically sealed so it's pretty unlikely and not to mention you'll lose very little. LSD is resilient.[/QUOTE] I thought LSD was a rather unstable chemical?
[QUOTE=cody8295;43851089]I thought LSD was a rather unstable chemical?[/QUOTE]Leaving it in sunlight or storing it in excessive heat, yes. It's just going through the post rather quickly in a sealed (and typically light-proof) bag.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43852022]Leaving it in sunlight or storing it in excessive heat, yes. It's just going through the post rather quickly in a sealed (and typically light-proof) bag.[/QUOTE] Hm alright. I guess my LSD Time Capsule is somewhat unnecessary then :/
[QUOTE=cody8295;43853202]Hm alright. I guess my LSD Time Capsule is somewhat unnecessary then :/[/QUOTE] Better safe than sorry
Can someone help me with all this bitcoin madness? I heard i need to launder them or something. Also how do i use the PGP encryption? I got gpg4win with kleopatra and one key, but what now?
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Just ordered my first buck of bitcoin. ETA: Friday. Now all I need to do is learn how to tumble and fumble keys.
Price hits floor level as expected. However far, [B]far[/B] quicker than expected. What does this mean? Fresh new wave of 2c-p induced analysis by yours truly! Currently, I see 2 obvious immediate ways for the market to develop: One, and seemingly the most likely at this moment, is that we're in the end of subwave 1/3 of Wave C. This is supported by the declining volume across all the major exchanges, indicating a (short term) loss of bearish momentum paving way for retracement, followed by another subwave down which might very well take us below current established floor price ($450 Gox). It also coincides with previous floor level which marks a major point of resistance. [t]http://i.imgur.com/2hgltld.png[/t] Option two is one of imminent trend reversal, building on the evidence above as well as what seems to be a general market sentiment of capitulation. In other words the current price, or possibly a bit closer to the floor, will be the optimal time for buying and holding long term in this event. I saw this as the most likely scenario back when price crashed from $1.2k based on comparative historical analysis, but recent developments have cast doubt on previous assumptions, namely that I do not see a proper forming of the subwaves within the corrective Wave C due to the speed of the crash, which is why I'm more inclined to believe in option one. [t]http://i.imgur.com/FafmCTe.png[/t] In any case, I'm as usual not going to tell anyone to buy or sell because there's always the lingering (albeit very small) chance of doomsday option 3, making this the start of a long and painful 2011-esque decline, or the chance of my analysis being completely off (it wouldn't be the first time Bitcoin has proven its unpredictability :v:). However, if you're sitting on fiat waiting for the time to buy in, and posses some critical thinking skills/ability to take what I write with a grain of salt/personal responsibility, then now seems to be a very good opportunity for buying and catching a bottom, either local or long-term. edit: On Gox, I should note. Bitstamp prices are still too high for any beneficial playing of a retracement.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43898911]Price hits floor level as expected. However far, [B]far[/B] quicker than expected. What does this mean? Fresh new wave of 2c-p induced analysis by yours truly! Currently, I see 2 obvious immediate ways for the market to develop: One, and seemingly the most likely at this moment, is that we're in the end of subwave 1/3 of Wave C. This is supported by the declining volume across all the major exchanges, indicating a (short term) loss of bearish momentum paving way for retracement, followed by another subwave down which might very well take us below current established floor price ($450 Gox). It also coincides with previous floor level which marks a major point of resistance. [t]http://i.imgur.com/2hgltld.png[/t] Option two is one of imminent trend reversal, building on the evidence above as well as what seems to be a general market sentiment of capitulation. In other words the current price, or possibly a bit closer to the floor, will be the optimal time for buying and holding long term in this event. I saw this as the most likely scenario back when price crashed from $1.2k based on comparative historical analysis, but recent developments have cast doubt on previous assumptions, namely that I do not see a proper forming of the subwaves within the corrective Wave C due to the speed of the crash, which is why I'm more inclined to believe in option one. [t]http://i.imgur.com/FafmCTe.png[/t] In any case, I'm as usual not going to tell anyone to buy or sell because there's always the lingering (albeit very small) chance of doomsday option 3, making this the start of a long and painful 2011-esque decline, or the chance of my analysis being completely off (it wouldn't be the first time Bitcoin has proven its unpredictability :v:). However, if you're sitting on fiat waiting for the time to buy in, and posses some critical thinking skills/ability to take what I write with a grain of salt/personal responsibility, then now seems to be a very good opportunity for buying and catching a bottom, either local or long-term.[/QUOTE] Interesting. I have some extra bitcoin which was worth 175 at the time of buying. Now its worth 144. I think I found somebody to trade a 200$ Amazon Giftcard for 125 (he offered me this price) in bitcoin. Win?
[QUOTE=brianosaur;43899014]Interesting. I have some extra bitcoin which was worth 175 at the time of buying. Now its worth 144. I think I found somebody to trade a 200$ Amazon Giftcard for 125 (he offered me this price) in bitcoin. Win?[/QUOTE] No doubt. A retracement in option one could optimistically push the price up to that level of profitability or slightly more, but you already have it guaranteed without the risk of playing the market :v: (assuming Amazon-tied money is of equal value to you) [editline]13th February 2014[/editline] Unrelated to Bitcoin TA, SR2 has allegedly been hacked and all funds stolen. [QUOTE]Below is a message from Defcon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I am sweating as I write this. Christmas brought grave news. I cannot adequately express how deeply honored I was by your unconditional support of my staff. I do not expect the same reaction to today's revelations. This movement is built on integrity, and I feel obligated to be forthright with you. I held myself to a high standard as your leader, yet now I must utter words all too familiar to this scarred community: We have been hacked. Nobody is in danger, no information has been leaked, and server access was never obtained by the attacker. Our initial investigations indicate that a vendor exploited a recently discovered vulnerability in the Bitcoin protocol known as "transaction malleability" to repeatedly withdraw coins from our system until it was completely empty. Despite our hardening and pentesting procedures, this attack vector was outside of penetration testing scope due to being rooted in the Bitcoin protocol itself. This attack hit us at the worst possible time. We were planning on re-launching the new auto-finalize and Dispute Center this past weekend, and our projections of order finalization volume indicated that we would need the community's full balance in hot storage. In retrospect this was incredibly foolish, and I take full responsibility for this decision. I have failed you as a leader, and am completely devastated by today's discoveries. I should have taken MtGox and Bitstamp's lead and disabled withdrawals as soon as the malleability issue was reported. I was slow to respond and too skeptical of the possible issue at hand. It is a crushing blow. I cannot find the words to express how deeply I want this movement to be safe from the very threats I just watched materialize during my watch. I've included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor's dishonest actions and use whatever means you deem necessary to bring this person to justice. More details will emerge as we continue to investigate. Given the right flavor of influence from our community, we can only hope that he will decide to return the coins with integrity as opposed to hiding like a coward. It takes the integrity of all of us to push this movement forward. Whoever you are, you still have a chance to act in the interest of helping this community. Keep a percentage, return the rest. Don't walk away with your fellow freedom fighters' coins. DPR2 returned the cold storage. I didn't run with the gold. But two people alone cannot move us forward. It takes an entire community committing to integrity - and though this crushing blow will not stop us, it sure is a testament to how greedy some bastards truly are. Being a part of this movement might be the most defining thing you do with your entire life. Don't trade that for greed, comrades. I will fight here by your side, even the greedy bastards amongst us. This community has suffered great financial loss over and over again, and I am devastated that it has happened again under my watch. Hindsight is already suggesting dozens of ways this could have been prevented, but we must march onward. The only way to reverse a community's greed is through generosity. Our true character is revealed during trying times. If this financial hardship places you at risk of physical harm, contact me directly and I will do my best to help you with my remaining personal funds. Now what. Never again store your escrow bitcoins on a server. Silk Road will never again be a centralized escrow storage. This week has shown the collateral damage we can cause by being a huge target and failing in just one unforeseen area. I am now fully convinced that no hosted escrow service is safe. If I cannot trust myself to keep a hosted escrow solution safe, I cannot trust anyone. Multi-signature transactions are the only way this community will be protected long-term. I am aggressively tasking our devs on building out multi-sig support for commonly-used bitcoin clients. Expect a generous bounty if you have the skill to implement this. Until then. We will never again allow ourselves to be a single point of failure. We will never again host your Escrow wallets. Vendor registration is closed while we regroup. All listings on Silk Road are now No-Escrow (Finalize-Early) for 1-2 months while we implement multi-signature transactions and lobby for mainstream Bitcoin client multi-sig support. All unshipped orders have been cancelled. Vendors may link to other marketplaces on a trail basis until we launch multi-sig, then we will re-evaluate based on community input. We do not want to be a centralized point of failure, but we also do not want to lead our buyers into dangerous waters. From this point forward DO NOT trust markets with centralized escrow. Use multi-signature transactions whenever possible, with trusted third parties as escrow providers. Everything will be offline for 24-48 hours to minimize variables as we continue to investigate. The evidence we have below will be expanded based on our findings. No marketplace is perfect. Expect any centralized market to fail at some point. This is precisely why we must unite in the decision to decentralize. We are relieved that our security procedures protected user identities, and that no servers were compromised. This was not a worst-case scenario: nobody will be getting arrested from this. Financial loss is terrible, but will not put all of us behind bars. The details we have on the hacker are below. Stop at nothing to bring this person to your own definition of justice. Humbled and furious, Defcon[/QUOTE] - [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1xtqty/sr_has_been_hacked/[/URL] Plot twist: A great deal of people are calling BS and that the Bitcoin malleability issue can not be exploited in this way. If that's true then either they are lying and deliberately attempting to lay the blame elsewhere while appearing as "the good guys" as they run away with the money, or they are too incompetent to identify the correct cause for the attack, which would be an equally frightening possibility for someone supposedly running a "secure" black marketplace. However imo one shouldn't be too hasty in drawing conclusions. There's still the chance of them telling the truth, perhaps their wallet client system was designed in such a way to make an exploitation of this nature possible? There is far too little information available as I see it. Nevertheless, it is eerily suspicious that an issue that's been around since at least 2011 was exploited only days after an announcement by Gox to halt withdrawals until the issue was addressed by the Bitcoin Foundation, thus bringing it to public light. It could be assumed that any hacker capable of theft to this degree would have done their research about openly documented issues found in the Bitcoin wiki well before this. Another plot twist: TheHub user "whyusheep" is taking credit for the attack, making a post a few hours before it happened claiming "they" would wage war on SR2 after an argument with DoctorClu (SR2 admin) on the same board: [QUOTE]They don't know that you don't store money in floats because they are fucking idiots. They can't keep positive balances, they can't scale their website and they won't be around for very long. So pull your funds before me or LE takes them all. They have no idea how to program a site that uses money and they have no next to nothing about opsec. We are at war now, I'm shutting down this fucking amateur operation and the admins will all end up in jail. This DDOS is just the start.[/QUOTE] The same user raised similar threats against the Utopia marketplace before it got seized by the Dutch police, afterwards claiming responsibility for it. Some say this guy is likely a bullshitting script kiddie troll. However, I am inclined to believe him, or at least give him the benefit of the doubt. He certainly has some credibility in my books due to the timing and accuracy of his threats. Either that or just a set of amazing coincidences, which I don't see as likely. To that note he claims he will take down SR2 completely in the same way he did Utopia, possibly turning the DB over to authorities, as well as waging a continuous war against what he deems "unsecure" marketplaces. Gods I love internet drama
Apparently....also... on top of everything else, BMR Forums were seized in Iran.
Fucking A I buy bitcoin right before doomsday. Is litecoin a good alternative?
Prolly a dumb question, but exactly how secure is Silk Road for shipping in the US, for light shit like pot? It seems a little questionable to go putting your name and address on a package full of drugs. I can only imagine getting a knock on the door after it got sniffed out by a drug dog or something.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43904607]Prolly a dumb question, but exactly how secure is Silk Road for shipping in the US, for light shit like pot? It seems a little questionable to go putting your name and address on a package full of drugs. I can only imagine getting a knock on the door after it got sniffed out by a drug dog or something.[/QUOTE] Generally if the vendor is in the US, it's pretty safe since it doesn't go through customs. However, SR is looking like it won't be trustworthy much longer after this hack.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43904607]Prolly a dumb question, but exactly how secure is Silk Road for shipping in the US, for light shit like pot? It seems a little questionable to go putting your name and address on a package full of drugs. I can only imagine getting a knock on the door after it got sniffed out by a drug dog or something.[/QUOTE]It's exceedingly difficult to prove that [i]you[/i] ordered the package and not someone out to fuck you over. They usually grab people after making a controlled delivery and having the person open the package. Usually it's best to wait a few days in the event that it was a controlled delivery. Also, never sign for any packages. Signing it means that you confirmed it's yours and that's very illegal.
Fuck the gods, Gox just sliced through $350 in the blink of an eye and the order book is rapidly thinning out. Possibility of it breaking previous ATH ($266) or even going sub-hundreds is growing larger, and it's starting to look more and more like a complete collapse and capitulation from Mt.Gox. Looks like this part turned out true in the end lol[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43898911]or the chance of my analysis being completely off (it wouldn't be the first time Bitcoin has proven its unpredictability :v:)[/QUOTE] Bitstamp seems to be holding somewhat steady yet slowly following. If Gox goes to shit, Stamp is not getting through unscathed. Cancelled all buy orders. To hell with analysis, I'm not trading in this chaotic clusterfuck of a market. Time to grab some popcorn and watch the world burn I guess.
it's all going to shit... I got a refund for what was 90 dollars worth of bitcoin it's now worth like 40 bucks if that not sure whether to make the most of it and order now or see if it picks back up....
Hopefully by the time my coins arrive today I will have only lost 20 dollars. I'm really bummed out that this graph represents my experience with Bitcoin. [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25698984/myBitcoinExperience.PNG[/img]
How/where do I buy bitcoins and then how do I get them to agora to make purchases?
[QUOTE=GoldenTWM;43987899]How/where do I buy bitcoins and then how do I get them to agora to make purchases?[/QUOTE] You can buy BTC using a bank account through many services. I use Coinbase [url]https://coinbase.com/[/url] Agora will provide you a "deposit" BTC address where you send the BTC.
It says link a bank account/credit card I'm gonna use a credit card and it also asks to verify a phone number. If I buy bitcoins, I know im perfectly allowed to do that but when I deposit them to agora and spend them there, wouldnt it be able to be traced back to my coinbase account where they can find that information? [editline]20th February 2014[/editline] Oh nevermind, its encrypted. Is adding the billing address required?
[QUOTE=GoldenTWM;43989741]It says link a bank account/credit card I'm gonna use a credit card and it also asks to verify a phone number. If I buy bitcoins, I know im perfectly allowed to do that but when I deposit them to agora and spend them there, wouldnt it be able to be traced back to my coinbase account where they can find that information? [editline]20th February 2014[/editline] Oh nevermind, its encrypted. Is adding the billing address required?[/QUOTE] You need to add a bank account, the credit card is optional and for "backup" only. You can't buy BTC directly with a CC from Coinbase. As a matter of fact, it's hard to find a website that will sell you BTC's through credit card. Also no, BTC's cannot be traced, the transactions are anonymous. [editline]20th February 2014[/editline] EDIT: I'm sorry, BTC can be traced, but it's not as easy as it seems. Keep your wallet on an encrypted drive and you'll be fine though.
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