It's not so much that I push people away or judge them based on their past, I think it's cool that other people have lives completely seperate from anything in mine. It's just I can't relate to it. No disrespect :)
[QUOTE=SilverHammer;33560267]It's really unfair I know but [B]there's something I don't like about a person who's never been through something like that.[/B][/QUOTE]
Maybe you were just high or drunk or on something, but this is what made you sound like a dick.
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Sorry, this thread is for not passing judgement. I'm done being a tool now.
[QUOTE=Meader;33562267]Maybe you were just high or drunk or on something, but this is what made you sound like a dick.
[editline]4th December 2011[/editline]
Sorry, this thread is for not passing judgement. I'm done being a tool now.[/QUOTE]
You sound like the pretentious asshole here in this situation, sir.
What he's saying, and honestly I've had quite the shitting on from life in a first-world perspective (possible schizo), is that it really is hard sometimes to relate to someone who has no experience of your situation.
You try telling someone who has a perfectly content life (you know, the average american who can pay the bills and likes doing what they're doing) and is OK with everything about it that you hear things from time to time. That these tell you to do things that you would never do. Like say kill your family or while I'm in the car as a passenger to dive out just to see what would happen if I hit a tree or a signpost doing 50 on the freeway, imagining the reactions of the people in after I do and what I'd say before. Or unconciously walk down to the kitchen and look at the knives before snapping out of what I was about to do. All the while you can think alongside these inner voices like people, but they don't even acknowledge your disagreement, they just keep pounding out these sadistic and twisted thoughts that you would never comply to unless forced to.
ITT: We call each other assholes.
I don't need to say it but it's hard to sound understanding or reasoning and un-asshole like over the internet.
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"ITT" sounds like something an asshole would say on the internet, because honestly they usually do but I clearly don't think that of you. And I could see how people could take that statement as internet sarcasm.
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You especially sound like a complete ass when you use the word "pretentious", I just don't prefer using that word, it has a lot of impact in my eyes for some reason but I'll use it from time to time.
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Like when I quote
[editline]4th December 2011[/editline]
fuck the edit button
you need to smoke more and chill out
See there. I am "chill" I'm just typing what I'm thinking, you think I need to chill out.
Now I really do after reading that.
that i do, that i do.
brb smoking more
thanks for that
[QUOTE=Pirate Jok3r;33562386]You sound like the pretentious asshole here in this situation, sir.
What he's saying, and honestly I've had quite the shitting on from life in a first-world perspective (possible schizo), is that it really is hard sometimes to relate to someone who has no experience of your situation.
You try telling someone who has a perfectly content life (you know, the average american who can pay the bills and likes doing what they're doing) and is OK with everything about it that you hear things from time to time. That these tell you to do things that you would never do. Like say kill your family or while I'm in the car as a passenger to dive out just to see what would happen if I hit a tree or a signpost doing 50 on the freeway, imagining the reactions of the people in after I do and what I'd say before. Or unconciously walk down to the kitchen and look at the knives before snapping out of what I was about to do. All the while you can think alongside these inner voices like people, but they don't even acknowledge your disagreement, they just keep pounding out these sadistic and twisted thoughts that you would never comply to unless forced to.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I'm any more important or better in any way. I understand what he was saying. The core of his statement makes complete sense and I can agree with it, sometimes it's hard to relate to people. But he specifically said that he didn't like these people because of it. That's unfair, unreasonable, and he even says he knows that! In the post you quoted, I was just showing him what specifically he said that I had a problem with. Because I don't have a problem with his inability to relate, but rather with his disliking these people because of it.
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[QUOTE=Pirate Jok3r;33562565]I don't need to say it but it's hard to sound understanding or reasoning and un-asshole like over the internet.
You especially sound like a complete ass when you use the word "pretentious", I just don't prefer using that word, it has a lot of impact in my eyes for some reason but I'll use it from time to time.[/quote]
I think it might be the tone (or lack there of possibly) you personally put on what you're reading. And I don't quite understand how I'm a complete ass because I used a word that you don't like using... even though you use it from time to time.......
Yeah lack of tone, thanks. Had a lack of words for a moment. You probably aren't an ass and yeah it's opinionated thinking with the pretentious bit or my lack of understanding of the word. I truly have a pretty terrible range of vocabulary and understanding of it. I for some reason get on these imaginary pedestals without noticing and I guess you could say become (was it very at all?) subtly, or very condescending, I really don't know.
I need to work on it. I'ts an unconcious thing going on i'm assuming. This psychology class I'm taking is actually paying off wow.
ITT people talk about ITT and how using ITT is stupid and ITT ITT ITT ITTTTTITTT
It was mentioned twice but alright. haha
If you don't know a word, look it up. Mr. Google knows all.
Pretentious- Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
People use this word wrong all the time, but most don't know what it means. That's why it can be an annoying word IMO, because it's over-used, and incorrectly to boot.
Exactly. K I'll quit clogging the thread. brb smoking more
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;33562806]ITT people talk about ITT and how using ITT is stupid and ITT ITT ITT ITTTTTITTT[/QUOTE]
ITT: We ITT, ITT.
Welp there they go again, telling me that I'm a murderer over and over.
gone in a minute after I started music.
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They're really quiet and subtle but the moment I notice them it SEEMS like it gets louder but it's just me focusing on it more. It's like those thoughts in the background when normally thinking and they flow around and you pick the thoughts out on the fly but the background noise is in your regular thought pattern, not the unconscious conscious.
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I like to entertain them by agreeing with them, like pretending what they say is rational. Or at least I imagine I entertain them as some weird game.
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"Hm, Yeah I'd be a good murderer" While looking up and having my hand around my chin in a thinking manner.
[QUOTE=Pirate Jok3r;33563052]Welp there they go again, telling me that I'm a murderer over and over.
gone in a minute after I started music.
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They're really quiet and subtle but the moment I notice them it SEEMS like it gets louder but it's just me focusing on it more. It's like those thoughts in the background when normally thinking and they flow around and you pick the thoughts out on the fly but the background noise is in your regular thought pattern, not the unconscious conscious.
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I like to entertain them by agreeing with them, like pretending what they say is rational. Or at least I imagine I entertain them as some weird game.
[editline]4th December 2011[/editline]
"Hm, Yeah I'd be a good murderer" While looking up and having my hand around my chin in a thinking manner.[/QUOTE]
Is this related to your smoking?
The clear, not my voice, voices are when I smoke. The first occurrence was with spice, the second with weed and this is the third also with weed.
Tonight has been about a week since the second time which was also the last time I smoked. I went on a week hiatus just to see if they would come up when sober but sure enough they didn't. So tonight was a night to test if they came back and they did but it was very noticeably weaker, I wasn't as freaked out about it. I actually played around with the idea like a game like I said before.
I'm now under the serious assumption that is has to do with my medicine and the weed kicks in the medicines side effect of temporary psychosis and not me being schizophrenic. I'm saying that because the first time it happened I was taking my meds daily when I literally had a panic attack, then the second I had kinda weened off em a bit for about two weeks as to where I forgot to take some a couple days, then had my dose one day, forgot another two days then just stopped completely for maybe a week and a half which brings me to today, the third and least worrisome one.
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The first time I can link you to the experience or you can just look through my post history and find the trip experience thread posts.
It has the first experiences with hallucinations for me and at my first "bad trip" i guess you could call it and also the day after when I hear my first voices.
i've started hearing voices and shit with weed too, but it depends on the strain a bit..
Hear the voice of my mum saying "He's smoking!" and shit like that, but pretty sure it's just my imagination wandering, cuz once it starts happening if I focus on something like music i'll start to "hear" that
doubt it's schizophrenia but it can get a bit spooky at times, thankfully all it really takes to get rid of it is the realization that it's like 1am and no one is actually awake
so far it hasn't translated to the sober world, doubt it will, pretty sure it's just me letting my mind wander while high thinking of different scenarios and shit
yeah, paranoia and psychosis don't mix too well
[QUOTE=Pirate Jok3r;33563671]yeah, paranoia and psychosis don't mix too well[/quote]
if you find those sorta hallucinations uncomfortable and impossible to control then just don't get that high i guess..
unless it's unavoidable even at low level highs in which case I feel for you man, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be hearing voices at just any level of high, I don't mind it when i'm super high because I know it's just the result of my mind wandering, and I can actually control it
though there have been times where i've heard a more omniscient voice talking to me, strange experience that I can say would almost compare to trip reports of people that say they've experienced the "god" entity, and that it is everything etc. I've heard it twice in a time span of about 4 months, last night being the last time I heard it, it was quite... un-nerving
"Peter, can you feel me?"
"What are you"? I thought to myself
and then I heard it and felt it say, resonating from somewhere so deep inside myself that I can't describe with words what it was like
"God"
then started seeing visuals of eyes on everything and it asked me if I saw the eyes..
I really don't remember much else, I was more high than i've been in my life last night so I credit it to that, it was quite an experience, even if it was all subconscious thoughts manifesting themselves as audio/visual hallucinations :p
oh also according to my subconscious, god's voice is british
Yeah if you go back a page or wherever I said I heard it throw out the line "I stop for no mortal" I recognized it as more of a demon entity rather than a god like figure so as you can imagine I got a bit panicked but realized it's more than likely the medicine.
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That does sound like a unique experience though, but doesn't sound like it'd be as unnerving to me as some seemingly all knowing power call me a mortal.
man being high can result in some really weird shit i'll give you that, I guess it just varies person to person in terms of how enjoyable those experiences are and as such, really isn't for everyone
Here's the post from the first experience.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1133345?p=33122385&viewfull=1#post33122385[/url]
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I used to love getting high but now I'm a little more timid about it.
Used to be an everyday thing but right now is testing grounds and to enjoy the ones where mental bombs don't go off.
After I confirm I'm not crazy it's back to the dailies.
i'm gonna try to get that high again tonight, people that say weed isn't a hallucinogen or psychedelic have obviously not smoked enough, in higher doses it can really become what people consider to be a "trip" or well, what it's like for me is mini trip states that have their own story, most of which I usually end up forgetting
This stuff got me to that point in 2 cones, i'm used to having like 5-6 and getting a fairly regular high, so i figure this is really good shit in terms of potency. it's also an amazing combination of cbd and cbn in the high, feels a LOT more body than what i'm used too, much more involving high like my first experience
I wish I could smoke like that but I could probably guarantee a panic attack from what might come from it.
I'm going once a weekend and to figure out if they come out anymore. And this is good weed too so I don't need to smoke much to get em kickin around up there. Two hits and two hours in I was called a murderer by myself, so one hit was good until Mac boy told me to smoke more to chill out which clearly didn't help, really, thanks Mac. You're helping me do a self study here.
[QUOTE=Pirate Jok3r;33563816]I wish I could smoke like that but I could probably guarantee a panic attack from what might come from it.
I'm going once a weekend and to figure out if they come out anymore. And this is good weed too so I don't need to smoke much to get em kickin around up there. Two hits and two hours in I was called a murderer by myself, so one hit was good until Mac boy told me to smoke more to chill out which clearly didn't help, really, thanks Mac. You're helping me do a self study here.[/QUOTE]
but you are a murderer
you burnt that innocent weed and devoured it's very being!
just kidding man, but I can understand why that would be freaky; but if anything i'd say you're probably just psychologically, subconsiously worried about getting high which is what's causing it, set and setting, you have to be completely comfortable with it to have a good experience and well if you're worried about hearing voices you probably pull yourself into it without realizing it
[QUOTE=Inzalonus;33563779]i'm gonna try to get that high again tonight, people that say weed isn't a hallucinogen or psychedelic have obviously not smoked enough, in higher doses it can really become what people consider to be a "trip" or well, what it's like for me is mini trip states that have their own story, most of which I usually end up forgetting
This stuff got me to that point in 2 cones, i'm used to having like 5-6 and getting a fairly regular high, so i figure this is really good shit in terms of potency. it's also an amazing combination of cbd and cbn in the high, feels a LOT more body than what i'm used too, much more involving high like my first experience[/QUOTE]
Have you ever actually taken a psychedelic?
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;33563830]Have you ever actually taken a psychedelic?[/QUOTE]
I have taken lsd before, but not enough for it to be meaningful.
Getting some this upcoming weekend though (finally organized it) , and even if it's completely different I still stand by what I say, with a strong enough high from weed you can experience psychedellic states, even if it's not the same as say lsd it's the only word that really fits the state to be honest.
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