To any smokers on Facepunch, I want YOU to read this.
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I laughed at the first picture :saddowns: I'm going to hell
Okay, i don't smoke and i've decided i never will, but we'll see how that goes. I don't like smokers because you stink. I don't want you to quit because it's for your own best, (except relatives or friends) i want you to quit because you annoy me. Every morning i take the bus and at one point i have to get off and wait for another one. I'll have to wait for 10 minutes so it's nice to have a place to sit down, now the problem is that this smoker comes over and starts smoking. It's like he's deliberately doing it to get us away.
But...
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20059213]Funnily enough I entirely agreed with the Smoking ban, I'm a fairly considerate smoker, hell, if a woman or family that have a small child is walking towards me, I'll cross to the other side of the road.[/QUOTE]
Well, in that case i'm ok with it. Keep smoking if it doesn't hurt other people.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20059234]Read back, I'm already dying, smoking isn't going to make a damned bit of difference.[/QUOTE]
If you get cancer you'll probably die quicker.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20058995]5 Million people die every year, so, 15 million children die every year because of hunger.[/QUOTE]
Unless i misunderstood something, that's possibly the worst argument i've heard in my life.
The 5 million people who die of cancer from smoking has made their own decision. The 15 million people who die from hunger doesn't choose whether they want that or not.
Heh, just came to think of something. Imagine if all the money you people used on smoking went to feed poor people? That would give everyone food, and you wouldn't die from lung cancer. That's a win-win! But nvm it's not gonna happen.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20058995]relatives always suffer the consequences of your death, whether it be of old age, car accident or smoking or any other reason for death.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but would you want to have your mother to be alive for 10, or 60 years?
[QUOTE=Zaur is awesome;20058909]But he CAN change that. It's not difficult. I could wake up tomorrow and say to myself; I'm never going to drink a can of coca cola again and I COULD. It's not hard, self-control is all it takes.[/QUOTE]
i couldn't. coca cola is fucking awesome.
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;20058594]Should be banned to be honest, all they do is damage you, and the second hand smoke is annoying as fuck, does wonders for children and people with respiratory illness.
Then, in place of the banned cigarettes, legalised marijuana for all :D
As for alcohol, it only affects the person drinking it, not all the people within a 10 metre radius. If anything make it illegal to smoke in public places where other people will be affected by the smoke, its not fair to make other people breathe in a toxic plume courtesy of a cigarette smoker.[/QUOTE]
ye but unlike smoking, alcohol can actually be good for you
because of the nutrients or whatever
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;20060643]ye but unlike smoking, alcohol can actually be good for you
because of the nutrients or whatever[/QUOTE]
Drinking can be just as addictive and unlike smoking it can change the person consuming it (Alcoholics)
[QUOTE=TheDKer;20060253]That's like saying "Why not stab yourself with a knife this very second, you're going to die anyway".
You know, most people want to live a [I]long[/I] life.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you really can't decide when you die, unless you kill yourself right now
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20058642]To all non smokers: [B]Get the fuck off our backs[/B] unless someone is breathing smoke in your face, in which case, take it up with them and leave the rest of us alone.[/QUOTE]
Which is 99% of the time what happens when I pass smokers, which is quite often.
Read the pack of cigs. It says they can kill you. Simple enough.
itt people who have never smoked telling smokers what cigarettes do
[QUOTE=Saukkoman;20059062]Christ people, it's everyone's personal choice if they want to smoke and to some it's not since they're addicted and can't stop.
My personal opinion is that it's never a good idea to start smoking, the cons (lungs -> breathing and everything lung-associated, everything those cartridges say) outweigh the pros (instant gratification -> relaxant, [bad-assery]).
Then again I'm biased, my grandpa (who I never met) smoked all his life, fought in wars too, and died when he was around 50 due to lung cancer.
To further continue this discussion, does anyone know somebody who started smoking after they had turned 18?[/QUOTE]
I started smoking when I turned 18, I accept the consequences of what I'm doing but due to my job their is not much else to do.
People pull this cancer card out way too much, you could die at any second in your life, just think about the risk of when you cross the road to when you take a plane flight.
Everyone dies.
Id rather be the one in control
And besides, it feels so damn good
[QUOTE=minge-killer;20061375]itt people who have never smoked telling smokers what cigarettes do[/QUOTE]
Yeah well you can also turn that around. People who have never smoked are better at knowing the benefits of not smoking.
One's experience should not matter in this subject. I think it's been sufficiently proven that the damage cigarettes do are highly out of proportion to their minimal benefits - at least compared to other ways to achieve the same benefits.
I don't care if people smoke as long as they don't do it inside public buildings or in crowded areas. I am sick to death of bitches smoking by the bus stop and having their smoke blow in my face, or walking down crowded high streets with their smoke trailing behind them right in my face. I know a lot of people who smoke, and I don't bitch at them, it's their choice. However I don't want them to smoke in my face.
This is why I hate people bitching about the public smoking ban in the UK. Seriously, you can't smoke in pubs now? Have to step outside to smoke? Bawwwwwwww! We don't want to have to breathe in your smoke, if we wanted to inhale that shit then we'd have taken up the habit ourselves. It's disgusting coming home, reaking of cigerettes, when you don't even smoke.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;20061457]Yeah well you can also turn that around. People who have never smoked are better at knowing the benefits of not smoking.
One's experience should not matter in this subject. I think it's been sufficiently proven that the damage cigarettes do are highly out of proportion to their minimal benefits - at least compared to other ways to achieve the same benefits.[/QUOTE]
The only thing that would make me quit is the price.
If the cigarettes doesnt kill me, it will be the age, or the car tomorrow evening when I cross the street, even the shitty air in my city, or a robber. I dont know, I dont care, it could happen in 5 min. a bear could climb my house jump into and fucking kill me or in 60 years in my old age home (if ain't the kids, the government would put me in). Even water could kill me.
Many people die of smoking and others survive.
So am I asking, what the fuck doesnt kill you. sitting in your warm chair writting a wall of text of smoking because its fucking funny to troll about dead or even start a discussion and start with how millions of people are retards.
Or no the discussion about it, feeling pretty smart about talking something you read on wiki, or even made something up so you can be for a little minute the imagination in your nerdie brain and laugh about it when you think the others believe you. You know what? the others are trollin you!
Even if the thread here isnt full of lies and trolls, are you really sure you want to warn these people here of cancer?
I don't understand why pot is banned while cigarettes aren't. They damage you way more than pot ever will.
[QUOTE=Keychain;20061604]I don't understand why pot is banned while cigarettes aren't. They damage you way more than pot ever will.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy.
Here we go...
I could give a shit less if anybody smokes, just keep that secondhand shit away from me. I refuse to be damaged or have to have my own well-being infringed upon simply because you don't care. You are the one performing the harmful action, I shouldn't have to leave somewhere just because you decided to light up next to me. Other than that smoke away.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;20061553]I don't care if people smoke as long as they don't do it inside public buildings or in crowded areas. I am sick to death of bitches smoking by the bus stop and having their smoke blow in my face, or walking down crowded high streets with their smoke trailing behind them right in my face. I know a lot of people who smoke, and I don't bitch at them, it's their choice. However I don't want them to smoke in my face.
This is why I hate people bitching about the public smoking ban in the UK. Seriously, you can't smoke in pubs now? Have to step outside to smoke? Bawwwwwwww! We don't want to have to breathe in your smoke, if we wanted to inhale that shit then we'd have taken up the habit ourselves. It's disgusting coming home, reaking of cigerettes, when you don't even smoke.[/QUOTE]
As someone who worked in a pub before i started smoking, the smell of smoke was great because it got rid of the smell of booze. Also smoking in pubs is a tradition, don't want to smell ciggie smoke in a pub? Bawwwwwwwwww go drink at home then.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;20061457]Yeah well you can also turn that around. People who have never smoked are better at knowing the benefits of not smoking.
One's experience should not matter in this subject. I think it's been sufficiently proven that the damage cigarettes do are highly out of proportion to their minimal benefits - at least compared to other ways to achieve the same benefits.[/QUOTE]
And I can also turn that around and say that smokers know the benefits because not every person who smokes was born with a cigarette in their mouths, we do know what it was like before smoking. and how are you better at knowing the benefits anyway if you haven't smoked, other than what people tell you, which they tell us too.
[QUOTE=Ccharlton;20061687]As someone who worked in a pub before i started smoking, the smell of smoke was great because it got rid of the smell of booze. Also smoking in pubs is a tradition, don't want to smell ciggie smoke in a pub? Bawwwwwwwwww go drink at home then.[/QUOTE]
I'm a smoker and I agree with the ban, since not every bar employee wants to get a face full of it while working or wants to start smokin themselves.
[QUOTE=Ccharlton;20061687]As someone who worked in a pub before i started smoking, the smell of smoke was great because it got rid of the smell of booze. Also smoking in pubs is a tradition, don't want to smell ciggie smoke in a pub? Bawwwwwwwwww go drink at home then.[/QUOTE]
The smell of cigarettes is worse than the alcohol smell to me. And sorry, I don't see why someone's personal habit should give them rights to take over public places. Should people with severe asthma have to put up with that shit (like one of my brothers)? You don't know who has breathing difficulties and who doesn't.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20061693]
I'm a smoker and I agree with the ban, since not every bar employee wants to get a face full of it while working or wants to start smokin themselves.[/QUOTE]
Exactly :)
rayven what is your condition called
I sometimes smoke when I'm drunk. That's usually a pack every 3-4 months. Cigarettes are great because they add to the effects of alcohol while stile acting as a stimulant so you don't get tired as fast. Stimulant effects also come in handy on long drives (stopping every now and then for a cig fights off sleepiness).
[QUOTE=Squeaken;20058524]People who smoke aren't retarded.
They know the dangers.
This is like banning cars because you can crash them.[/QUOTE]
But smoking will always hurt you. It might never kill you, but it will worsen your breathing, aside with other problems. Driving cars mostly doesn't harm you at all.
I don't give a damn about smokers, unless it's one of my family or friends. My dad is heavy smoker, and he won't stop :(
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;20061693]And I can also turn that around and say that smokers know the benefits because not every person who smokes was born with a cigarette in their mouths, we do know what it was like before smoking. and how are you better at knowing the benefits anyway if you haven't smoked, other than what people tell you, which they tell us too.[/QUOTE]
With "the benefits of not smoking" I'm referring to the physical condition, and the other advantages, of a person who chooses not to smoke. Naturally, this is best felt by a person who does not smoke. If one does smoke, they might remember what it was like before they smoked - this is assuming they are somehow capable of comparing their situations now and then, which may prove difficult when comparing something like physical condition, but they do not know what it would be like if they had never smoked. The best they can do is extrapolate from their previous information, not unlike non-smokers can form a mental image of themselves smoking based on their experiences with other smokers, and then compare that to their current situation. Therefore if someone says that people who do not smoke aren't qualified to enlighten the people who do about the effects of smoking, it is perfectly reasonable to also say that people who do not smoke are then better at knowing the effects of not smoking.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;20062108]With "the benefits of not smoking" I'm referring to the physical condition, and the other advantages, of a person who chooses not to smoke[B]. Naturally, this is best felt by a person who does not smoke. [/B]If one does smoke, they might remember what it was like before they smoked - this is assuming they are somehow capable of comparing their situations now and then, which may prove difficult when comparing something like physical condition, but they do not know what it would be like if they had never smoked. The best they can do is extrapolate from their previous information, not unlike non-smokers can form a mental image of themselves smoking based on their experiences with other smokers, and then compare that to their current situation. Therefore if someone says that people who do not smoke aren't qualified to enlighten the people who do about the effects of smoking, it is perfectly reasonable to also say that people who do not smoke are then better at knowing the effects of not smoking.[/QUOTE]
How is it when they have absoloutely no basis for comparison?
Ex Smokers are the best qualified for that, trouble is, most ex smokers are even more self righeous twats than regular anti smoker people.
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