so at this price point something has to be seriously wrong right?
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2001 prelude with 122,600 miles, clean title, 5 speed, "treated well and maintained", no body issues, stock and supposedly no problems
im guessing there are probably major problems seeing as it is half the price of every other prelude in the same condition and mileage.
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description also says it has a manuel transmission
which afaik is this
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[QUOTE=Valon Kyre;48491520]You see that picture of the guy who spliced two gen 3 hemi heads together on a slant serj? Supposedly it worked for a little, the engines share a pretty close headbolt arrangement. Coolant and oil is beyond me, would definately help the engine a ton.[/QUOTE]
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I've seen the picture. Dude put a hemi head sitting on top of the slant. I think that's all he did was set it there and take a picture, sat a stock intake to it somehow and made some long tube headers. I heard nothing about it working, or anything, except there's a huge argument on it at slantsix.org and Im waiting till the guy steps forward.
There's a lot of debate on slantsix.org as to what heads were made real and whatnot, but the general consensus of things that are TRUE with backup evidence:
-Chrysler DID make 5 Turbo Diesel Slant 6's. 3 are owned by the same guy, and has photos. The other two I don't know.
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-Chrysler DID make 1 Overhead Cam Slant 6, it is owned by the engineer that produced it.
-There is a race car driver/engineer that has produced a single aluminum head for himself, and he runs it. It is really fucking fast.
-I am watching someone build a supercharged/ turbocharged slant six and am mad that the progress is really slow/ non existant:
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-If you type in Turbo Slant Six into google, the first three rows of pictures, I know everyone there pretty much and we all share info. The wild one with the red tubing and the aluminum pressure box, no one can find the owner, but it is one of the more speculated builds as it's hard to tell what's going on.
What is it about aluminum heads that make them fast? less wieght better heat properties?
My New Yorker has Iron heads I am planning on swapping those out because I doubt they will handle what I want to do to that engine.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;48491705]What is it about aluminum heads that make them fast? less wieght better heat properties?
My New Yorker has Iron heads I am planning on swapping those out because I doubt they will handle what I want to do to that engine.[/QUOTE]
the only advantage aluminum gives is weight savings. more importantly they tend to have better flow characteristics on account of being expensive aftermarket equipment, but that's due to market demand and not some magical property of aluminum
Ok I'll go with steel or cast iron heads more focused on performance making the New Yorker lighter would be too much of an uphill battle.Rather save the money.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;48490196]I'm 23 and yeah, I'm near Preston. I managed to find an affordable quote for £1,500 which included full breakdown and European cover with courtesy car. I don't know something about it makes me all excited. I've driven about four or five TT's in the past and every one of them has made me giddy like a schoolkid. :v:[/QUOTE]
£1.5k?!
My Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 V6 was only £650 at 20. Hell the XKR-S is £1.3k at 22!
If you want a v block car look at a Brera with a decent service history or even a 147 GTA. 350Zs can be picked up at a decent price now too.
Look for something a bit more obscure and you can save a fair chunk on insurance.
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[QUOTE=DPKiller;48490577]eh.
It has alot of things going for it, like the manual and quattro. Is it worth the cost? I cant really be the judge of that. I have owned numerous volkswagens and audis and just about every single one of them you could not judge by the cover. You had to own it and then figure out what is wrong 10,000 miles later.
But hey. She looks clean tho and better off than most people with their [i]miatia's[/i].
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103k is not anything to worry about if the timing belt has been changed or timing chain tensioners have been changed.... or sometimes both![/QUOTE]
Millage is viewed differently in the UK. 100k on a diseal would be okay but second hand petrol would normally be 60-80k depending on the car if you plan to keep it long term.
60-80k is barely broken in in the states
No MOT though
The idea behind an aluminum head is better heat dissapation for one. Also they are usually a little different castinf that may have a benifit. Some put the spark plug closer to the exhaust. Some wedge the outside of the head up a little to allow for high compression but valve clearance. Some heads c hange the flow alignment slightly, etc.etc... stuff you cant typically do with iron castings but a billet block or aluminum casting can be carved to a lot of different specs. Its not exactly just an aluminum version of the head. Its usially got a little difference to it.
[QUOTE=Del91;48491933]60-80k is barely broken in in the states[/QUOTE]
60 yeah, and 80 is good. I won't buy anything with more than 120k unless the price is really good though
[QUOTE=JesseR92;48491788]Ok I'll go with steel or cast iron heads more focused on performance making the New Yorker lighter would be too much of an uphill battle.Rather save the money.[/QUOTE]
The only good iron heads for a 440 worth putting work into/swapping over are max wedge heads and you'd be hard to find a set as they were a race race package casting
The best bolt on (retain stock rocker gear, headbolts, intake and exhaust manifolds) aluminum head is the edelbrock victor max wedge. You'll need a 383 intake since it used a raised port but i think over the stock head you're looking at something like 50cfm more on the intake and exhaust (dont quote me) and something like 100cfm more on the intake when cnc ported (again dont quote me). The jist of it is you'll be seeing an easy 50-70hp increase (and another 25 for a air-gap intake manifold) and if you cam it and throw on longtubes then 100-150 total (stock is 375 and I think you have 10:1 comp pistons so probably 500+ hp) isnt unrealistic, big blocks respond well to mods.
Change your rear gears out to 4.10s, put in a shift kit and that old boat will fuckin scream
Yeah slants are quite the engines eh serj? That diesel slant is probably something thats a fair match for a cummins. The big killer is the head, there isnt much room for porting since the ports are next to eachother and the head flows like shit so you can only go so far with the engines for boosting. Its like the cummins, the engines make wicked power with tons of boost but it all comes down to having a shitty head design for making any more power.
Thats the big killer for me at least, you can do a lotta cool shit and put a ton of boost to it, but you'll always be limited by the head and the aftermarket doesn't have a solution and may never have one.
just port and polish what you got by hand with a die grinder like a real man
I did that to a pair of ford 460 heads, took me 16 hours, i dont even know how much it helped but for how much I hogged out ill be damned if it didnt.
The stock iron heads dont gain a whole lot of power from porting, and if its your first time theres a lot of research to be done so you know where you can take X amount of material from without hitting the coolant ports.
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hacked off the drivers quarter on the dart, if tomorrow goes well I should be able to slip the skin over.
[QUOTE=Del91;48491933]60-80k is barely broken in in the states[/QUOTE]
It's highly likely that 90% of a cars mileage is done in a city here
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The car looks like it's professing its innocence at gunpoint.
This seems to be a tradition with the MX-5 though, the new one has the same thing:
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"It wasn't me, I didn't do it!"
[QUOTE=PyroCF;48491912]£1.5k?!
My Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 V6 was only £650 at 20. Hell the XKR-S is £1.3k at 22!
If you want a v block car look at a Brera with a decent service history or even a 147 GTA. 350Zs can be picked up at a decent price now too.
Look for something a bit more obscure and you can save a fair chunk on insurance.
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Millage is viewed differently in the UK. 100k on a diseal would be okay but second hand petrol would normally be 60-80k depending on the car if you plan to keep it long term.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's when I'm being completely honest on the insurance quote form. Car insurance is so expensive here, and it'll be something to do with northern towns having higher premiums and some even higher :/
Most cars I've ever bought have been around the tonne mark and some of them have been astounding drives, so I guess it all depends.
I chose Audi because it's the brand I've grown up with with my Dad being an Audi specialist, so this way I get free repairs (For things I wouldn't claim for) for life.
I think I really should look around for a cheaper quote, though.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;48492357]Yeah that's when I'm being completely honest on the insurance quote form. Car insurance is so expensive here, and it'll be something to do with northern towns having higher premiums and some even higher :/
Most cars I've ever bought have been around the tonne mark and some of them have been astounding drives, so I guess it all depends.
I chose Audi because it's the brand I've grown up with with my Dad being an Audi specialist, so this way I get free repairs (For things I wouldn't claim for) for life.
I think I really should look around for a cheaper quote, though.[/QUOTE]
See if anywhere like a TT owners club has a discount with any insurers. I got 10% off my insurance because I paid £5 to be a member of cliosport, and they didn't even check I was a member
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That £5 includes discounts at lots of part retailers too
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48492467]See if anywhere like a TT owners club has a discount with any insurers. I got 10% off my insurance because I paid £5 to be a member of cliosport, and they didn't even check I was a member
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That £5 includes discounts at lots of part retailers too[/QUOTE]
Usually have to be 25 on most of specialist insurance.
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Well shit
[QUOTE=PyroCF;48492506]Usually have to be 25 on most of specialist insurance.[/QUOTE]
Some of the times they aren't even specialist, like I could get a discount with adrian flux through club membership (they partner with a lot of clubs)
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48492618]Some of the times they aren't even specialist, like I could get a discount with adrian flux through club membership (they partner with a lot of clubs)[/QUOTE]
I'll have to have a look into this then, I can't get Jaguar insurance until I'm 25 :'(
[QUOTE=dwt110;48486723]So I can't buy my own car because there are two to choose from while my older sisters are away at college (A 2005 Lexus SUV with nearly a quarter of a million miles and a miserable 2008 Honda CR-V). I guess my mom doesn't quite understand that I want a car because I want to enjoy driving, not because I need it as a utility.
The woes of being 17. My teenage angst grows with every hour.
I'm sure by the time I am allowed to buy a car that BB6 Prelude I posted will be gone, which sucks because that's the main candidate out of all the cars I have been looking at.[/QUOTE]
I got sick of being told what to do with my money and what cars I couldn't and couldn't own so once I was 18 I bought my Z, put it in the garage, and pulled everything off for a timing belt job. Then I snipped the timing belt so no one could move it out.
This thing is a massive fucking money pit and is slower than almost anything else on the road but it's absolutely the most unique thing on the road and there's nothing quite like it in the corners. I've driven quite a few cars now, albeit only a few sporty ones, but my 30 year old Z with its original suspension is still king in the corners. It sticks where you throw it (not put, fuckin' throw) and makes a nice sound while doing it.
My Z was $1,000, and excluding tools, I probably have $600 in it now. I'm not counting tools because you use tools for everything. Oh, and of that $600, $200 alone is the original wheels, which will be here next week :D.
I'm not saying go out and buy a Z as your only car, because mine has been down for several weeks while waiting for parts (timing tensioner stud, right rotors, etc etc), but this isn't an impossible thing. You just have to make sure to buy the right piece of crap.
Here's a few pictures: [url]http://imgur.com/a/SXVnq[/url]
[QUOTE=butre;48492068]just port and polish what you got by hand with a die grinder like a real man[/QUOTE]
I did that with my slant. It took a couple days here and there. The problem is like valon said that theres only socfar you can go. It did help a lot though. Some of the stock ports were off by about 3/16" thays a huge flat spot in the intake run. The boost definitly helps force feed it air. Some of the more exotic setups ive seen are port injected slants making 370rwhp. Which I feel is a massive gain over a stock average 90rwhp.
[QUOTE=WolvesSoulZ;48490781]Is it with a turbo or a supercharger? If a supercharger, remember that they take power to run.[/QUOTE]
A Supercharger. I was thinking if it was 100% efficiency, the math would be correct. I know with a turbo it would get more net power, but I wanna go super charged for now. If I account for parasitic loss, head flow, and so on, I imagine it will be a 20-30% increase in power. I plan on porting and polishing the heads because why not. Hopefully that'll yield a >5% increase.
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[QUOTE=Serj22;48493207]port injected slants making 370rwhp. Which I feel is a massive gain over a stock average 90rwhp.[/QUOTE]
That's fucking nuts!
efficiency losses in forced induction aren't that hard to calculate (unless you wan't to go balls to the wall in accuracy), I havent done anything about superchargers specifically but turbochargers.
If you know the properties of the air in/out of the compressor/turbine calculating isentropic efficiency for both is a super simple calculation and the resulting powerloss is just a subtraction of two values. It simplifies the model a bit, but makes powerloss from a turbo calculable by hand (and you will find it isn't that much)
I'm so tired of 350s. They're everywhere I look. 46 Ford Coupe, "all original". Neat, I think - maybe it'll have a flathead V8. No, it has a 350. 63 Mercury. Neat! 350. 68 Satellit- 350!
350s should be fucking exterminated. Be original. God damn.
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'38 packard, 350. Seriously???
It doesn't appear that they make aftermarket steel heads for the 440 getting the motor rebuilt as it could really use it I'll see ifvthey can machine the heads at the same time as the hone or bore the block.
Why don't you just put a 350 in it like everyone else?
why are you so angry about 350s... let people do what they want.
They haunt me in my dreams
Really it's just like the 350 is a "my first hot rod" engine and it's annoying to see them in everything. "Bocephus tol' me I oughter pull that ol' hunkajunk 383 and put me one of them 350 hot rod injuns in 'er, no low balling I know what I got"
I'm shopping right now so I keep seeing them and it made me want to complain
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