[QUOTE=Akayz;20977938]Practicality is a REALLY small price to pay for the sheer experience of vinyl
MP3s are a lot more practical than CDs anyway....[/QUOTE]
What am I going to listen to in my car? Set up a huge gramophone in the passenger seat?
Vinyl is cool if you're chillin' at home and just want to listen to music, but thats about the only place it's good for.
Oh and DJ'ing
WAV has good quality but the file size gets huge.
I hate people who rip vinyl to mp3 because you often get scratches within the tracks. I would prefer mp3 over all formats because it is so much more accessable and standard for today.
FLAC and iTunes lossless rips is about 1000kbps~, which sounds much much better than any MP3. It doesn't even matter if you have uber good headset or not, it will sound better.
[QUOTE=Daemon;20977988]more accessable and standard for today.[/QUOTE]
When music is concerned....... I really don't want 'standard', I need something to blow my brains
so again practicality won't make mp3s sound any better than vinyl
.MP3s for portable players, since they can't hold much and have shitty headphones anyway.
.FLAC for playing stuff on my PC with my sound system.
Vinyl for sitting in a big arm chair smoking cigars and drinking brandy.
You're thinking Vinyl is better than Redbook CD, but it technically isn't: the former has worse dynamic range, it's got all the disadvantages of analogic sourcing, etc.
Most people who prefer Vinyl over any other thing do so because it's the format they've grown up with, and as such are used to how it sounds. MP3 128kbps will be *the* thing that will be rare and precious in 2050.
And also, MP3 doesn't kill the quality as long as you know how to encode properly, but it'd be nice if the industry could switch to OGG / AAC already
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[QUOTE=Siminov;20977966]Vinyl sounds a lot better in my opinion than any mp3 or cd, It is because the music is in it's raw analog form and completely uncompressed.[/QUOTE]
:siren: [url]http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Vinyl_Myths[/url]
Vinyl is much richer. All of those subtle flutters make the songs sound better than cds. CDs are too sterile.
I like both. I like having records to just chill to, and to have. I like how they sound. I also have my cds for portability.
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I do wish I had a record player ripper thingy, though.
Audiophilia is hopelessly geeky and will never be popular. The more portable format will always be the main preference among music consumers.
one of the biggest differences with vinyls is they force the producers to master the records properly. with some popular music nowadays it's a case of "make it as loud as you can", you simply can't do that with vinyls, it won't cut properly.
personally, sound quality sounds fine from CD or vinyl for me, but I prefer vinyl and use it when i can. it's more tactile. i've got sweet dreams (are made of this) by the eurythmics on vinyl and while it sounds just as good on cd, it's so much more satisfying dropping the needle onto the vinyl, hearing a few little crackles and pops before that classic bass line just comes booming in.
equally, one of my favourite songs of all time- bruce springsteen's 4th of july, asbury park (sandy) has this glorious glockenspeil interlude which just sounds so much more organic and beautiful with a slight bit of static in the background.
i have no doubt people will disagree with this as the better quality of CDs is probably more important to most people but I love the tactile nature of playing a record.
[QUOTE=Akayz;20978084]When music is concerned....... I really don't want 'standard', I need something to blow my brains
so again practicality won't make mp3s sound any better than vinyl[/QUOTE]
Practicality won't but top of the range sound equipment DO.
Vinyls show how much they could do great things with analog technology. Seriously this shit is impressive.
[QUOTE=BimBamBape;20977969]What am I going to listen to in my car? Set up a huge gramophone in the passenger seat?[/QUOTE]
Buy a 1963 UltraGlide.
[QUOTE=roflcakes;20977509]DJs prize vinyl because you can reach the 5-10Hz frequency zone, which covers most of the natural frequencies for body cavities. While this frequency is inaudible to the human ear, it does have a subconscious effect that makes people get up and dance (apparently).[/QUOTE]
whaahaha?
People use vinyl for mixing because it's very accurate to mix.
One thing that I like in vinyl is the awesome album art. Just has that nice feeling to it.
Also what was that record where there was this spiral thing and when you played it it looked really trippy. I think it was some Black Sabbath album. [img]http://www.irancartoon.com/100/swf/fun_spiral.gif[/img] <--- There if you didn't understand
Also the reason vinyl sounds "warmer" is A) compared to CD, the treble frequency of vinyl masters is reduced and B) the vinyls tend to flutter out of tune a bit.
As a means of listening to music, I've only ever thought CDs were better because you can skip through tracks rather than relying on trial and error. In terms of sound quality, records sound great.
[QUOTE=PelPix123;20978574]This doesn't have anything to do with the actual vinyl, technically speaking. It's the way the vibrations in the reader are amped to produce sound that produces the warm feeling.
You can do the same thing to a wav with any [I]good[/I] tube or solid state amp, as long as it's circuitry.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=876488[/url]
I made a thread comparing them here a while ago.[/QUOTE]
Too bad tube amps are pretty expensive (right?).
[QUOTE=thisispain;20978532]whaahaha?
People use vinyl for mixing because it's very accurate to mix.[/QUOTE]
plus, all the disc scratching, slowdown effects etc you find in computer based mixing programs are just based off techniques that were originally done on vinyl.
vinyls will always rule in my heart
[QUOTE=mike;20978298]one of the biggest differences with vinyls is they force the producers to master the records properly. with some popular music nowadays it's a case of "make it as loud as you can", you simply can't do that with vinyls, it won't cut properly.
personally, sound quality sounds fine from CD or vinyl for me, but I prefer vinyl and use it when i can. it's more tactile. i've got sweet dreams (are made of this) by the eurythmics on vinyl and while it sounds just as good on cd, it's so much more satisfying dropping the needle onto the vinyl, hearing a few little crackles and pops before that classic bass line just comes booming in.
equally, one of my favourite songs of all time- bruce springsteen's 4th of july, asbury park (sandy) has this glorious glockenspeil interlude which just sounds so much more organic and beautiful with a slight bit of static in the background.
i have no doubt people will disagree with this as the better quality of CDs is probably more important to most people but I love the tactile nature of playing a record.[/QUOTE]
I can agree with this, but in terms of compression and digital formats, there is no real difference between vinyl and lossless formats, other than the cracks and pops.
But vinyls have a major handicap: When you live near a street with big trucks driving on them, it won't sound that great anymore.
Hey, how about: Apples vs. Oranges, while your'e at it.
There's no difference between CD and lossless formats either
and the CD doesn't have any cracks or pops
That's because CDs are essentially lossless?
Other than people blatently turning the quality of digital stuff down when they compare it to analogue, I notice no real difference other than one is a pain in the ass and the other isn't.
Properly mixed CDs are rare, but are a treasure. I find them to be more convenient and practical than vinyl, but I still think vinyl has superior quality.
MP3s are just out of the question.
While it's much more of a hassle, I do enjoy the experience of putting on a vinyl, something about it feels a bit more plugged in and visceral, if nothing else being able to see it spin by in front of you with the slight imperfections of the dust sitting on the record adding a little bit of background drone, especially when listening to some classic Bowie or punk
I really can't tell the quality difference apart from a few cracks and hisses on some of my older records
[QUOTE=Ban Evasion Alt;20978160]
Vinyl for sitting in a big arm chair smoking cigars and drinking brandy.[/QUOTE]
enjoying the finer things in life :]
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