Tour of a Military Prison. - General

[QUOTE=Jemminaag;30222785]solution to not get in prison: dont get caught[/QUOTE] fixd

I just finished watching the second part of Louis Theroux's Miami Super Jail, and this does not seem as bad as that. Despite having not even being convicted, many are in there for 5 years, in the higher level floors you'll have to fight for a bed, fight for food, fight for shoes, fight for everything. Often people with just a hint of snitching will get systematically beaten up by the 12 other inmates.

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;30224540]I just finished watching the second part of Louis Theroux's Miami Super Jail, and this does not seem as bad as that. Despite having not even being convicted, many are in there for 5 years, in the higher level floors you'll have to fight for a bed, fight for food, fight for shoes, fight for everything. Often people with just a hint of snitching will get systematically beaten up by the 12 other inmates.[/QUOTE] Military prisons are highly organized, this makes them both better and worse than civilian prisons.

And this was an US Army prison right? Can't imagine the British Army doing this.

[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;30224429] Imagine your worst nightmare. Absolute worst situation you could be in. Then imagine that it is going to happen to you and you have no control over it. And you will experience it for God knows how long and you can't get out of it.[/QUOTE] Broken keyboard and no way to respond to someone saying stupid things in the news forum Oh god

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;30224540]I just finished watching the second part of Louis Theroux's Miami Super Jail, and this does not seem as bad as that. Despite having not even being convicted, many are in there for 5 years, in the higher level floors you'll have to fight for a bed, fight for food, fight for shoes, fight for everything. Often people with just a hint of snitching will get systematically beaten up by the 12 other inmates.[/QUOTE] Well yes that is different. Military jail usually doesn't have problems between inmate relations or even towards guards. In Federal Prisons you could get any crazy criminal and not care what they do because they might be getting life any way. I am starting to believe you can't even class Military and Federal prison except on the fact that Military prisoners are treated much more strictly by their guards than federal prisoners are who experience the majority of their bad treatment through other inmates. [editline]3rd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mort and Charon;30224591]And this was an US Army prison right? Can't imagine the British Army doing this.[/QUOTE] US Air Force prison

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;30224591]And this was an US Army prison right? Can't imagine the British Army doing this.[/QUOTE] try reading the first paragraph of the op [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Chat flaming/spamming" - GunFox))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;30224629]try reading the first paragraph of the op[/QUOTE] heh... do something like that in a Military prison and the guard will scream at you, call you derogatory names, take away privileges and who knows what else. Also I forgot to mention. The military also gives 5-10 days off per month they are detained. So if you serve a year you will end up saving 2 months of jail time and you'll get out 2 months earlier. HOWEVER the jail guards can take them away. So if you screw up enough you'll serve your whole sentence.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;30224579]Military prisons are highly organized, this makes them both better and worse than civilian prisons.[/QUOTE] In civilian jails/prisons its the other inmates that you have to worry about. They have a whole code based on respect that you abide by or get fucked up. There was this one white guy, skinny and about 5'3, was obviously going to get fucked over in this cell of 12 massive black guys. He had to be moved to a safer facility or he'd have been dead. It kind of showed how messed up some of the US/Miami justice system was,that white guy had been stalling his case for 3 years in the hope some of the witnesses would forget about the case/ become disinterested.

I'll have to watch that. There is a lot of minor details that I actually don't know how to express in words. There is also a different mentality in the military that civilians (and most dependants like myself) would have a hard time understanding.

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;30224629]try reading the first paragraph of the op[/QUOTE] He just said on a USAF base, within an RAF base, it could have gone deeper..... [editline]3rd June 2011[/editline] And definitely watch that, very good, as all Louis Theroux's stuff is. He's a brilliant interviewer, and it's surprising what he manages to get them to say.

did they have terrorists inside

I hear the prisons in Britain are just more or less one giant showering room, is there a reason behind this?

[QUOTE=Da Jester;30224866]I hear the prisons in Britain are just more or less one giant showering room, is there a reason behind this?[/QUOTE] Its not British at all. Its an American facility on an American Air Force base. No British things affiliated with it at all. We hold them to our laws.

I'd imagine that the guys that go here deserve it. but someone going here for being a general dick is kinda wrong though. i'm all for daily beatings for the rapists and murderers. if a guy is a dick, then he's a dick, not a criminal.

[QUOTE=zombini;30224999]i'm all for daily beatings for the rapists and murderers.[/QUOTE] what about the sadists you should beat yourself too

[QUOTE=zombini;30224999]I'd imagine that the guys that go here deserve it. but someone going here for being a general dick is kinda wrong though. i'm all for daily beatings for the rapists and murderers. if a guy is a dick, then he's a dick, not a criminal.[/QUOTE] I assume something they agree to in the military would make it some kind of criminal offense to disrespect superiors because then that leads to disobeying. Plus its not like they will be there for years. A few months maybe for disrespect and its only to instil more discipline to them since they seem to have lost it. That is why people go through boot camp.

:smith: You don't need all this to reeducate someone. That aside, cool read, OP, was the Staff Sergeant hard on your class, too? Or do you think he's able to swing between hard taskmaster and benevolent host at will?

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;30225348]:smith: You don't need all this to reeducate someone. That aside, cool read, OP, was the Staff Sergeant hard on your class, too? Or do you think he's able to swing between hard taskmaster and benevolent host at will?[/QUOTE] I think they would need it. Military members are held to a very high standard. If you are caught smoking marijuana you are automatically dishonourably discharged even if its your first offence ever. If they can't put up with the strict rules of the military then they shouldn't have signed up for it in the first place. The correctional facility serves as both rehabilitation and punishment for what they have done. I don't want any chance of a drug abuser, dealer, violent or disobedient soldier out on the front line when he is responsible for the lives of his fellow soldiers and the freedom of everybody in the United States. I think its better to be ironed out of them this way than to do a more peaceful approach. This way they are mostly certain they will NOT want to repeat the process of military jail again.

It's funny how the second picture says Our Mission Your Future and it's a military prison.

To be honest, US military prison is probably nohting compared to russian one.

I'm not so sure. Unless we had a witness to a Russian prison then we could compare. Plus remember this is Level 1. Level 3 is much harsher because of the amount of people that are sent there. And I have a feeling the Russian prison system has been reformed since the Soviet Era.

Sergeant

Ah yes, Lakenheath...

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;30225348]:smith: You don't need all this to reeducate someone. That aside, cool read, OP, was the Staff Sergeant hard on your class, too? Or do you think he's able to swing between hard taskmaster and benevolent host at will?[/QUOTE] They're army personnel, what the fuck do you expect them to do? Give them cupcakes and sugarpuffs for breakfast lunch and dinner? If they think they can rule the place, an army prison, they're gonna get exactly as they would get in the army. They know exactly what they're getting into.

[QUOTE=Mastotron;30238220]They're army personnel, what the fuck do you expect them to do? Give them cupcakes and sugarpuffs for breakfast lunch and dinner? If they think they can rule the place, an army prison, they're gonna get exactly as they would get in the army. They know exactly what they're getting into.[/QUOTE] Military personnel have an uncanny ability to switch between nice guy and hard-ass. Suppose they did send home OP's class mentally scarred and in tears, how would that reflect on the military? At least I think that's what you're asking.

Sergeant... okay. My spell checker changed it to Sargent. I assumed that was the real spelling.

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Nice thread Mr. Sun. I've always wondered what a military prison was like.

Military prisons are terrible, I had a friend who was wrongfully convicted and sent to a Marine military prison. Under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) you are pretty much guilty until proven innocent. As for the horror stories, my friend told me the guards would rape smaller inmates and randomly beat others for fun. The guards would steal private possessions from inmates and sell them. The prison he was held at was recently investigated and all the chain of command was let go. My friend was later found innocent and release 3 years after he was convicted.