Is Internet Explorer really that bad? - General

[QUOTE=wakkydude;33002851]IE7 was the first truly awful IE connecting...[/QUOTE] That implies that 1-6 were decent. IE7 was nothing more than IE6 with a new UI.

While IE9 is more stable and faster than previous builds, I doubt it will ever shake the negative reputation it has amassed from the community. Microsoft's decision to release IE10 in two separate (touch/non-touch) builds for Windows 8 - specifically, to basically build two disjointed versions of the browser, deprive one of plugin compatibility, deprive both of any ability to cross-communicate bookmarks or sessions, and then to finally [I]decide it's better to not try to rectify any of those problems with a full year before release... [/I] It boggles the mind.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;32633190]IE 9 and 10 are technically just as good as any other browser[/QUOTE] Definitely not. They lack much functionality and they always have microsoft stuff built in, like the filter css shit. Also compatibility ^ -10

[QUOTE=S0lll0s;40164239]Definitely not. They lack much functionality and they always have microsoft stuff built in, like the filter css shit. Also compatibility ^ -10[/QUOTE] Lacks what functionality?

i hate how you middle click to open a link in a new tab, and IE just freezes for a few seconds. thats alot of wasted time if you middle click a lot.

I understand this thread is old, but the points still stand. For a while, I used to use Internet Explorer, I was used to it. When I decided to try out Firefox, in my opinion it felt clunky, but it was able to run faster, however I tried out Chrome recently and I've found it much faster, similarly to firefox, and the UI of it was nice. A huge improvement over IE, it feels so slow whenever I open it now.

Old IE: Garbage New IE: Just fine The reason people still don't use it is because they're so used to their other browsers. I would use the new Internet Explorer without any problem if I didn't have the choice to install Chrome.

Microsoft fucked up with IE6. There's a difference between Web 2001 and Web 2006. They have gone better by IE9 and IE10, but now their reputation is already fucked. So to me: IE6-8=useless piece of shit. IE9-IE10=something you can finally use.

The framerate and general optimization is severely lacking, in my opinion IE is just quite cluttered, while Chrome is faster, generally has a better interface and more user control, coupled with lots and lots of extensions that have numerous benefits. When IE comes out with an application that lets you download Youtube videos at a decent speed all in a single browser with minimal performance issues, along with an app that erases all advertisements on the web, I'll give it another shot IE is just the default browser with a new computer, and if you can't be bothered to change it, you're more than likely to form an attachment to it

It really depends, for some reason it works better than chrome or firefox on my buddy's pc, but that might just be something buggy in he's OS.

For developers IE9 is disgusting and there's no point even talking about IE8. For example, a lot of basic CSS is missing for IE9 and you have to use shite workarounds.

IE has more security holes than a sponge, that alone makes me avoid it.

I feel like IE is not as bad as the general population makes it out to be (especially in the newer versions) but it definitely lacks the versatility that other browsers have with plugins like Scriptish, Greasemonkey, which allow very helpful addons like NoScript and Adblock to exist. Speed-wise, IE is definitely dependant on your internet speed in general, just like any other browser. The main reason I don't use it is because it just doesn't have as much capability for addons.

Internet explorer is not up to scratch with web standards. I can't comment on internet explorer 10, but even internet explorer 9 has many issues. The largest being that it doesn't auto-update on the fly and so therefore isn't up to date with web standards. Because IE is auto-installed on a lot of computers, this is severely holding the web back. You will not understand it unless you have developed on the web yourself, but a lot of unseen things go on in the background. Not to mention the fact that well, Internet Explorer is slow as shit.

I personally enjoy the functionality of Chrome over IE, although I confess I've never used another browser.

There is one reason why I switched using web browsers, and it still exists. When highlighting text in IE, it highlights the whole word to the next space or special character. I fucking hate that. Let me highlight my own god damn words you stupid piece of software, I'm not as dumb as I look. I like to be able to highlight individual characters or parts of words without having to do some stupid workaround. Also I hate IEs UI.

[QUOTE=dbk21894;40237413]When highlighting text in IE, it highlights the whole word to the next space or special character.[/QUOTE] Sorry to break it up to you but Chrome does the same. So it must be dumb too.

Using IE10 on a tablet (Microsoft Surface), and it's really smooth. Smoother than any other browser on a Nexus 7, which, AFAIK, uses the same CPU as the Surface.

I can't give a solid argument, but, for me, IE has never functioned well on any machine I have used.

I don't know... I ALWAYS uncheck the toolbar options while installing shit, and there are none on my firefox browser. I've used my IE once before to download Firefox, but when I accidentally opened IE not long ago, it's homepage was some random shit, and there was a toolbar or two there. I went to set it's homepage to Google, it took much longer to load than my Firefox browser does.

[QUOTE=danielga;40237441]Sorry to break it up to you but Chrome does the same. So it must be dumb too.[/QUOTE] yes it is that's why I use firefox

[QUOTE=Van-man;32635299]I find it funny that I have the [B]EXACT OPPOSITE[/B] experience on that.[/QUOTE] Opera works like a fucking genius on my android and it ALWAYS freezes up on W7

While I wouldn't attribute the current versions to the same inconsistent and broken standards previous versions of Internet Explorer had (6, 7, 8, 9), I do believe that it is fundamentally more of a problem for Internet users than it is a solution. The first problem IE has is its development cycle. Unlike Chrome or Firefox, which provide silent, automatic updates on a regular basis to improve themselves, IE saves major version ticks for the next versions of Windows. On the security front, this is especially a daunting problem, as updates to Internet Explorer go through Windows Update, a process that can be disabled by system administrators from running entirely. Because Internet Explorer features no truly isolated sandboxing solution, any exploit present in one tab can spread to and break others. When using Google Chrome, process isolation works for each plugin, tab, and the entire browser framework as a whole. On the rare occasion that an exploit is discovered in sandboxing, the auto updating acts as a last resort for quick patching. Unlike Chrome and Firefox, Internet Explorer addon system is antiquated enough to support a wide variety of addons from various different versions. There is no centralized store or shop for getting new extensions, and no easy method of removing them short of opening up countless options dialogs (resolved slightly in new versions). Again, Chrome and Firefox have addon management out of the gate. Synchronization is a part where Firefox starts to falter, so I'll focus on Chrome. If I switch devices, which I often do with a smartphone, tablet, laptop, and pc, I frequently want to be able to have a similar experience on each device. Firefox and Chrome both offer some solution to this problem, by allowing cross-device sync of nearly all settings, down to currently open apps and more. It simply isn't feasible to use IE, because it exists on only a single of the most popular OS platforms: Windows. Chrome supports OS X, Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android. There is no competition here. I don't suggest to people IE for a browser, because it simply cannot be relied upon to perform well years after installation. Chrome and Firefox make an attempt at getting updated as soon as possible, while Internet Explorer has already failed to deliver on updates.

I opened IE the other day. I couldn't even make a custom bookmark and add a javascript command to it without doing it some long assed way.

IE/Safari is good for the general user. Its fast, works well, has support for older websites via compatibility view(At least IE9/IE10 is). A user who uses a computer for things like looking up recipes, quickly Google/Bing something, check their email. IE is good at that. The only problem with IE is that its the main target for useless "Premium" toolbars. And a lot of software install those toolbars on your computer. Clogging up space and slowing down IE. Chrome/Opera/Firefox are more for people who use computers for things like in depth internet surfing (Fourms,Games,Livestreams ect) Plus those browsers have more features like download managers, add-ons, multiple platform support and all that stuff. In my opinion IE is a really good browser for the average user. A lot of people complain about it's slowness. You go on their computer to see what might cause it and see this: [IMG]http://stevemorrissey.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/toolbars.png[/IMG] And they wonder why its slow. For example my IE looks like this and boot up in about a second: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wVGlFDw.jpg[/IMG] Looks nice doesn't it?

Every web browser that thinks it's worth anything should be able to pass all three acid tests flawessly [url]http://www.acidtests.org/[/url] I'm using chrome and it passed everyone fine if your browser fails to pass any of them I'd suggest getting a new browser this is also a good watch [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QqYVurImY[/media]

[QUOTE=ojcoolj;40235768]The framerate and general optimization is severely lacking, in my opinion IE is just quite cluttered, while Chrome is faster, generally has a better interface and more user control, coupled with lots and lots of extensions that have numerous benefits. When IE comes out with an application that lets you download Youtube videos at a decent speed all in a single browser with minimal performance issues, along with an app that erases all advertisements on the web, I'll give it another shot IE is just the default browser with a new computer, and if you can't be bothered to change it, you're more than likely to form an attachment to it[/QUOTE] I don't get what's cluttered about this? [t]http://i.imgur.com/uqIj4mO.png[/t] I like the way IE10 handles tab groups (different colours), it's really helpful if you have lots of tabs open on different topics. For example if I'm researching for an assignment but want to take a break and browse Facepunch, it's very easy to navigate to the Facepunch tabs. It's very responsive to me, other people have said it isn't for them but its running perfectly for me on a Phenom II X4 955. Even if there are lots of other programs running as well. The only reason I have Chrome installed on my computer is because some websites I visit - like my University's pages - don't seem to work correctly with IE10. Aside from that, I gotta say that Microsoft has done a very good job with IE10. It's definitely a competitive browser, but then again that does worry me with its inclusion by default with Windows even if I myself prefer it over other browsers.

I have IE9 in my new computer, I haven't added anything at all yet, and it's utter shit, pages take about 5 times longer to load when compared to Chrome, flash is completely broken, and the interface can be cluttered because everything is right next is other things, instead of above or below, and there's only so much you can do with horizontal space. Not to mention the lack of add-ons. I'm gonna stick to Chrome, and not look back.

Back when I was having an ass load of issues with Chrome crashing on Google searches (fixed now) and forgot about Firefox, I pretty much used IE10 exclusively. It actually wasn't bad, and I didn't want to tear my face open, so that's a good sign.

[QUOTE=Hawt Koffee;40250609]Every web browser that thinks it's worth anything should be able to pass all three acid tests flawessly [url]http://www.acidtests.org/[/url] I'm using chrome and it passed everyone fine if your browser fails to pass any of them I'd suggest getting a new browser this is also a good watch [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QqYVurImY[/media][/QUOTE] For the record, IE fails on my box. [img]http://puu.sh/2yuVm[/img]