Video of the Student Takeover at Evergreen State College. - General

[QUOTE=Zombinie;52293194]Because no one wants to incur their wrath and be labeled as racist. That's the trouble with these kinds of groups, if you aren't 100% with them and all their BS, then you are the enemy and you are disgusting.[/QUOTE] Honestly if there was no penalty for me missing a day I would do it

[QUOTE=Zombinie;52293194]Because no one wants to incur their wrath and be labeled as racist. That's the trouble with these kinds of groups, if you aren't 100% with them and all their BS, then you are the enemy and you are disgusting.[/QUOTE] Even if you're with them, you're not with them. I read that last time when the cops were called to the campus, the students took shelter in the library and sent the white people to the doors and windows to see if the cops were coming in. That doesn't sound too bad at first, but earlier they were saying they are afraid they would get shot. So in reality they were sending the white students out to act as body shields.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52293189]Evergreen State is a fucking joke to the state of Washington. It's like everything that is wrong with the hyperliberal Washington mindset pressed into a semi-humid college whose buildings haven't moved on from 1980. [sp]I'm in WSU and got family at UW and central so I might be a tiny bit biased [/sp][/QUOTE] Coincidentally, one of my Facebook friends reposted this image from Olymemes, which is a Facebook group focused on local jokes about the Olympic Peninsula. [t]https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18739907_1515580455128343_5121068590394373448_n.jpg?oh=c66462e4c792d10c8a79f5bf68963f24&oe=59E3EFA1[/t] :vs: And right as I started scrolling through my Facebook feed to find this image again, [b]another[/b] friend posted a picture of their certificate of graduation for marine biology... from Evergreen. :v:

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;52293374]Even if you're with them, you're not with them. I read that last time when the cops were called to the campus, the students took shelter in the library and sent the white people to the doors and windows to see if the cops were coming in. That doesn't sound too bad at first, but earlier they were saying they are afraid they would get shot. So in reality they were sending the white students out to act as body shields.[/QUOTE] Otherwise known as the "Privilege Shield."

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52293252]Honestly if there was no penalty for me missing a day I would do it[/QUOTE] Fuck that like we don't pay as much as you yanks for tertiary but I'll be damned if I let other students stop me from going. Im paying so I'll go to class if I damn well want to.

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52293407]Coincidentally, one of my Facebook friends reposted this image from Olymemes, which is a Facebook group focused on local jokes about the Olympic Peninsula. [t]https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18739907_1515580455128343_5121068590394373448_n.jpg?oh=c66462e4c792d10c8a79f5bf68963f24&oe=59E3EFA1[/t] :vs: And right as I started scrolling through my Facebook feed to find this image again, [b]another[/b] friend posted a picture of their certificate of graduation for marine biology... from Evergreen. :v:[/QUOTE] from someone who [del]lives[/del] knows people from that area what kinda a school is evergreen college?

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;52292217]"My ancestors were slaves, and your ancestors were not" [/QUOTE] Well one of my ancestors was probably a slave to the Romans. Checkmate BLM or whoever

You would think being a college student would be proof enough that your ancestors being slaves doesn't really hold you back anymore.

Seems to me like the people that are "Hurr Durr my ancestors were slaves so my life is hard BLACK POWER FUCK WHITES" have a victim complex and use that to justify their racism.

[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52292264]honestly I can see why some of the people from the older generation might think that this generation are a bunch of shitheads if this is the kind of shit they keep pulling[/QUOTE] You're looking at cherry-picked instances of this generation acting like this, posted by a user with a clear agenda, on a forum for video games.

[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;52293857]You're looking at cherry-picked instances of this generation acting like this, posted by a user with a clear agenda, on a forum for video games.[/QUOTE] This stuff out of control protesting keeps consistently happening. And at this point it is you who is trying to set a narrative/contort reality. If you want to mature and get past character attacking now; Maybe you would like to discuss why this isn't that big of a deal?

[QUOTE=Tudd;52293874]This stuff out of control protesting keeps consistently happening. And at this point it is you who is trying to set a narrative/contort reality.[/QUOTE] Nah, he is right. It's really not fair to judge an entire generation based on a handful of schools not keeping a tighter leash on their more delusional students. Especially when the generation doing the judging is typically Baby Boomers who almost assuredly did more damage than any pseudo-intellectual "social justice warrior" you see in these videos.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52293912]Nah, he is right. It's really not fair to judge an entire generation based on a handful of schools not keeping a tighter leash on their more delusional students. [/quote] I'm more tackling his accusation that this content should be disregarded just because I posted it. I don't really care about the generalization of a generation debate personally. Also be nice to Baby Boomers, they really aren't that bad and we probably shouldn't generalize them either.

[QUOTE=Tudd;52293932]I'm more tackling his accusation that this content should be disregarded just because I posted it. I don't really care about the generalization of a generation debate personally. Also be nice to Baby Boomers, they really aren't that bad and we probably shouldn't generalize them either.[/QUOTE] Boomer politics is probably indirectly responsible for the radical social justice movements of today.

The government literally needs to step into the universities and stop this madness, they're like giant indoctrination centers.

[QUOTE=t h e;52292829]"This is a very left leaning campus" = the majority of the population of the campus is left leaning. What's so difficult to understand about that?[/QUOTE] I think part of the issue is that universities in Germany, while technically not far from politics, aren't anywhere close to [I]that[/I] political (ime). Protest culture in the US seems overall like a giant mess though, at least from my perspective. It's as if (almost) noone stops to think what they're actually effecting with their actions.

[QUOTE=Gorgus;52293831]Seems to me like the people that are "Hurr Durr my ancestors were slaves so my life is hard BLACK POWER FUCK WHITES" have a victim complex and use that to justify their racism.[/QUOTE] Because they're losers and can't handle the concept of personal responsibility so they blame their lack of skills and motivation on injustices done to dead people a hundred and fifty years ago.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52294010]Boomer politics is probably indirectly responsible for the radical social justice movements of today.[/QUOTE] Sure, alot of things are indirectly responsible to each other socially when looking through history, but I wouldn't blame Boomers for SJWs in any kind of substantial manner that is blamable. I would blame Postmodernism for direct influence.

that dean is a huge pussy but I wouldn't do any better

[QUOTE=Tudd;52294528]Sure, alot of things are indirectly responsible to each other socially when looking through history, but I wouldn't blame Boomers for SJWs in any kind of substantial manner that is blamable. I would blame Postmodernism for direct influence.[/QUOTE] The boomers made protest culture look fun except when they did it they at least had some understandable reasons why they were protesting. These kids think they'll be the next MLK by doing shit like this and it's the boomers' self righteous glorification of the civil rights era protest movements that "inspires" these kids to do stupid shit like this except instead of marching with educators to end segregation and discrimination, they boycott the educators to further segregation and discrimination.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;52292217]"My ancestors were slaves, and your ancestors were not" [I][B]get over it[/B][/I][/QUOTE] My ancestor was a slave. He was a native american "working" at a mission. Of course "working" was forced labor until you drop dead and were replaced. My ancestor didn't want to be a slave and so he fled, and was then caught and executed. I know this because the government kept records of the natives they executed and I've read the file. It's one of the reasons that despite coming from a nearly extinct tribe I'm fully acknowledged by both the tribe and the government as belonging to it and being native american. So as someone that identifies as native american and has proof of slavery in the family tree: [B]I don't fucking care[/B]. That shit happened so long ago that anyone involved in any way whatsoever to the enslavement and execution of my ancestor is long dead. I don't feel owed or entitled to a damn thing. I sure as shit don't go around telling other people they're not allowed to [____] because their skin color might suggest they didn't have slavery in their tree. Even when I first found out about my ancestor I didn't feel like I was wronged. I didn't even feel sad about it. I felt pride. I come from a man that lived a life of suffering and yet persevered long enough to have a wife and children—and so eventually me. He even tried to be more than a slave, although it didn't work out for him, obviously, but he tried and I'm proud to come from someone like that. Maybe if these kids today had more pride in their ancestors—and themselves—and less self loathing they'd be happier in life and perhaps accomplish more for their cause.

[QUOTE=Tudd;52294528]Sure, alot of things are indirectly responsible to each other socially when looking through history, but I wouldn't blame Boomers for SJWs in any kind of substantial manner that is blamable. [B]I would blame Postmodernism for direct influence.[/B][/QUOTE] I don't think they are mutually exclusive. In fact I think they are one in the same. My grasp on postmodernism as it pertains to social justice is admittedly pretty limited (really just listening/watching Jordan Peterson on the subject) but from a historical perspective it grew to popularity during the era of boomer activism in the 60s and 70s. The idea of rebelling against dogmatic narratives and rejection of empirical authority was a big part of these times. As to how this relates to the current generation and the appeal of radical social justice movements that propose segregation as a means to deal with racism and other such craziness, consider the fact that todays college-aged youth grew up at a time of decidedly low optimism for the future. Consider stagnant wages. Consider an all-time low in trust for traditional pillars of American society like government and the media. I initially found Peterson's narrative that postmodernism is simply a re-envisioning of Marxism (by replacing "proletariat" and "bourgeois" with "oppressed" and "oppressor") to be built on a shaky foundation but it's hard to argue the link between radical social justice movements and appeal towards communist/socialist forms of government and/or resource distribution, because really it makes sense. People feel like they are rebelling against the neoliberal world order that, to them, has failed them. So sure, postmodernism definitely has to do with "SJWs" (I hate this abbreviation but I'll use it for the sake of discussion) but postmodernism is inextricably linked to the baby boomer generation. They were taught under it, they applied it to literature, culture, government, and economics, and now millennials are reaping the results.

[QUOTE=Tudd;52293760]You would think being a college student would be proof enough that your ancestors being slaves doesn't really hold you back anymore.[/QUOTE] Not really? The fact that they're in college doesn't mean racism or discrimination suddenly disappeared for them.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52296032]that dean is a huge pussy but I wouldn't do any better[/QUOTE] I don't think any university by itself could handle a situation like this alone, at least if the ones in the US have roughly the same power as the ones here (Germany). Severe (racist) disruption seems like a good time to escalate the issue to law enforcement, if there's [I]really[/I] no other way to stop them from threatening other students and staff. Simultaneously releasing a statement condemning the action and saying you called the police to maintain your 'strong stance against racism' or something like that would hopefully take care of most of the fallout. Then again this assumes that most of the audience would react sensibly and condemn violence and threats even if it's in their favour. I'm not sure this is the case in the US at this point, as far as the outspoken parts of the population go.

[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52292264]honestly I can see why some of the people from the older generation might think that this generation are a bunch of shitheads if this is the kind of shit they keep pulling[/QUOTE] The older teachers there are for sure old enough to remember the civil rights movement. This has to seem like insanity to them.

The worst part of all this is that it's filmed vertically.

Wow my school is on facepunch again Just so all of u know whats going on from the viewpoint of someone actually going to this school, every year we have a "day of absence" where students of color are invited go off campus to attend (optional) workshops dealing with tackling racism This year, one of the multicultural office advisors thought it would be a good idea for them to hold their (optional) workshops on campus instead this year, while about 200 students were invited (see: optional) to do it off campus. This also means that it was not all white students on campus. Did I mention that students leaving campus is completely optional? They weren't trying to kick white people out of school by suggesting these off-campus workshops, just like the day of absence has never been about kicking poc off campus either. The professor everyone is angry with sent a group email back stating that he did not support it and called it an "act of oppression" that they would make something originally intended to show the role of PoC in the public space turn into what he interpreted as "you, white people, go away!", and wanting to instead do a presentation on race through a scientific/evolutionary standpoint. This teacher majored in biology, so it is understandable. Through the lens of a student, though, they see someone trying to turn a day that is used to find ways to deal with and help resolve the issue of racism into a different topic entirely (race from an evolutionary standpoint is a completely different conversation than race from a social standpoint). Many students became angry because his lecture, although related, would not be the same topic at all, taking away from the good that these workshops can offer. I understand what he was trying to do but the problem is that by focusing on the science aspect of race it takes away from the issue that students actually want to discuss. Students took issue with this as well because of the fact that he, as a white teacher, has not faced the same degree of racism that many of our PoC faculty and staff have, and believe that it is unfair. Every article I see disregards this and makes it out to be a "day we want to kick white people out of school" which is dumb af and completely misses the point. It's easy to twist this story without giving proper background to the day of absence itself. Also, white students that were "scared to leave their dorm rooms" had nothing to fear because their being white wasn't and isn't the problem. Nobody was protesting white people, they are protesting the school administration's anti-blackness (regardless if it truly is or not, that isn't the point.) No students were assaulted. Also, calling this a "student takeover" is completely laughable because our campus was completely unaffected, everyone is making it sound like a riot where the school was shut down which is bullshit lmao All I'm saying is that as a student that actually attends this school, the media is making this seem WAY bigger of a deal than it actually is. However, a lot of the shit that was said with their meeting with our president was completely idiotic. Saying "fuck you" in a meeting where demands are being made is childish and stupid. I do not condone the behavior of the people saying things like that nor do I think the students went about this in the right way, but this is a prime example of the media loving to leave out information because almost every article about this I have seen has been about a "courageous professor fighting anti whiteness" when really it is something way different. Regardless on your views towards racism and reverse racism, the whole point here is that these students want the school to change for the better even if they are going about it in a way many don't agree with. The professor that caused this is known to have been casually racist in the past, as well as some of the administration (my teacher said the hard r in class last week and it was very awkward :(( ) and a large portion of his students are not on his side. Yes the videos are frustrating, yes they said dumb shit, yes they should not have cornered him, but no, campus is not in flames, no, the day of absence is not a anti-white day, and no, we don't hate white people here. Sorry to disappoint you all.

I'm curious, how has that peofessor been "casually racist"? And what's the context for why your teacher said nigger?

[QUOTE=Tudd;52293874][B]This stuff out of control protesting keeps consistently happening.[/B] And at this point it is you who is trying to set a narrative/[B]contort reality.[/B] If you want to mature and get past character attacking now; Maybe you would like to discuss why this isn't that big of a deal?[/QUOTE] if it is so "out of control," we should see it happening to practically all/most of the colleges around the US. But it is not, at all, and I ask you to your statistical source that a vast majority of US colleges suffer outbursts like this regularly. Even in stories like these, which are [I]terrible[/I] and unacceptable, it still remains that these are a small minority of kids within their college. Assuming 100 kids are involved in this event and those like it (the real number is probably much less), and that average college sizes are around 10,000 students, thats only [I]1 percent[/I] of kids that act this way. So not only is this barely happening in colleges in this country, but even in the ones that they do, its a tiny percentage of kids. I am not trying to downplay the events that happened here. This behavior is a very bad problem that needs to be addressed. But just because stories like this are posted daily to The_donald doesnt make this a [I]common[/I] problem

Your ancestors were slaves? Okay, and? You don't know anyone who was a slave, and you don't know anyone who knows anyone who was a slave. You can do anything I can do, stop bitching