Why does society deem it acceptable to hit children but not adults
if you agree with this sentiment you are a fucking retard
[QUOTE=ConvolutedLogic;26361742]The problem with that is that the child's going to depend on a reward/punishment system, and they're not going to be ready for the real world. That's not how it works. [b]It programs children to think, "Okay, if I do this, I'm going to get a spanking and life will go on."[/b] So a kid can mess up, get the spanking and continue on that way. But in the real world, if you mess up at your job, you don't just get a punishment and continue on. You get fired. Life doesn't work with reward and punishment. Also, the children can easily and with every right lose respect for the parents.
It's twisted. It's like, what, you love me, so you're going to hurt me? How does that make ANY sense?[/QUOTE]
I used to get spanked a lot when I was a kid and I don't have that logic.
It's okay if it's something like a soft slap, but hitting to leave a mark ? you can't even do that to your dog without getting arrested ffs.
My parents spanked me once, and they never had to do it again.
corporeal punishment should be reserved for the worst actions. If it's used too much the child could become unhappy and apathetic. If you're too afraid of it, the child can lose respect for the parent as an authoritative figure, and misbehave more often with greater consequences.
Now there is a big difference between a slap on the knuckles and being beaten with a belt, and ultimately, punishment should be relative to what works best for the child.
You [b]can[/b] love your parents, [i]and[/i] be afraid to get on their bad side.
mum threw a chair at me when i was 6
a fucking chair man
I would consider the OP's treatment a bit excessive, hell even child abuse.
But I think parents shouldn't be afraid to hit their kids if they miss behave. I'm not talking about a punch to the face, but a good old fashion ass whipping. I remember when I was a kid and did something MAJORLY wrong I would get my my ass whipped with the fucking belt. You know what happened after I got that ass beating? I learned, I didn't do it ever again. It wasn't out of fear, it was because I knew damn well fine I fucked up majorly. I rarely got hit with the belt, but when I did I sure as hell deserved it. You also need to put in mind they explained to me what I did wrong and why it was wrong afterwords. After getting beat and then talked to it was over and done with. Never brought up ever again, no hard feelings where to be had. I learned my lesson.
For minor infractions I was put in the time out chair or corner, sure it was for only like 10-15 minutes but when I was a kid that was a long time.
I still think kids need a good old fashion spanking if they miss behave. People argue "Oh my gawd that is awful, that will scar the kid for life." I don't think so, people just need to stop being bleeding hearts and just fucking be a god damn parent. If your kid grows up to be a fucking monster and asshole that is your damn fault.
If you do it right, it's not abuse. That said, the way some people choose to "punish" their child is abuse. Spanking, the switch, or spanking with a belt is punishment. Beating, whacking, and things of that nature, however, are abuse.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;26372311]Why not just do both. Worked for me.[/QUOTE]
I just dont think someone should have to resort to using pain to make a kid do something
[QUOTE=lintz;26361431] Anything less and I'll just make them kneel for half an hour.[/QUOTE]
oh god this.
You do not know how hard this was for me as a kid :byodood:
plus, it gives you time to think of what you did :v:
A minor spanking to deal with a kid if they won't listen is fine, but a horsewhip? What the fuck man
It seems Facepunch thinks taking things away, and being sent to a corner is a good thing. So, you want your children to learn how to steal, because thats basically what your doing to them.
I think Corporal Punishment is not abuse, as for me I never did that shit again if it was wrong, and my mom put soap in my mouth for when I cussed and I didn't again until I got older of course.
I used to get hit with a wooden spoon. That made me learn to hate my mother. Each day, I would get sicker and sicker of seeing her face until flat out admitting that I wished she would die and writing in school books that I hated my mother.
Then the anti-smacking law happened.
Started liking her again and when the law was revoked, I was too old to get smacked so I don't really give a shit. Thanks to the anti-smacking law, I now love my mum.
I'm not for corporal punishment per se, but I am for reinforcement of personal freedoms, and I believe a parent should be free to punish their child however necessary. It should also be noted that, in some situations, corporal punishment is necessary, as many kids don't have anything to take away, so just removing privileges doesn't work.
[editline]29th November 2010[/editline]
oh, and if I did something wrong as a kid, my dad had a nice heavy police issue belt, complete with velcro. those little plastic barbs hurt like hell on my bare ass
[QUOTE=Gurant;26362865]My dad always taught me that pain increases the learning ability[/QUOTE]
A mod?
Posting in MY thread?
When I fucked up, my parents whipped my ass with a belt. Now I am enrolled in a state level University in the Honors program.
Worked pretty well for me.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26372775]Why does society deem it acceptable to hit children but not adults
if you agree with this sentiment you are a fucking retard[/QUOTE]
I think it's acceptable to hit adults :rolleye:
Psychologically, spanking or other such corporal punishment does not shape behavior well, so I'm going to go with Child Abuse, as it doesn't accomplish the projected goal.
Yeah well, I got my ass spanked once or twice and I turned out fine.
Then again, I'm 16 now and I'm told I'm a fucking cocksucker and a stupid, lazy asshole. I wonder how that will make me turn out.
Saying just bare hand spanking is abuse is stupid IMO but a horsewhip and actual tools can cross the line.
I was spanked as a kid and I don't think it had any negative effect on me.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;26373771]I just dont think someone should have to resort to using pain to make a kid do something[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the world. When little kids are having immature tantrums, sometimes the best solution is a clip on the leg.
Every time a kid does something wrong, cut off a finger on their leg.
If they lose all fingers, that's one dumb kid.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbiq2-ukfhM[/url]
Very interesting study and analysis done by a good philosopher.
No......
There is a difference between abuse and disapline
My father spanked me and yelled at me and all the typical shit that Doctor Fuck Phil and other shrinks like to blame parents for fucking up their kids. But then he has a few more kids with my step mum and she didn't let him spank them and whatnot and they're total fucking brats.
So as long as you're not whipping the kid with extension cords or some shit I think its ok
My parents used to make me put 1 finger on the floor, stand with one leg, and put 1 leg in there air...for hours.
It fucking hurt your leg
It should be a resort, not a norm.
There is a time and a place for a good spanking. We are animals anyways. If the mother doesn't nip her cub, how is he not going to venture into the dark woods without learning his lesson?
I believe that a mixture of punishment and rewards for good behavior is necessary. The way that corporal punishment works, (or punishment in general), is to associate negative thoughts with the activity in order to prevent the person from doing that activity. Rewards work the other way around.
There is a line between discipline and abuse.
Sometimes you need to slap a little sense into a child to make a strong point.
Last time I checked, children don't understand logic.
I must be fucked up or something because I always challenged my parent's authority, even when they brought out their fists and now I don't fight or anything. In fact unless I get trolled really well or see something extremely stupid I sit back and shrug. I don't drink, do drugs or anything like that. My forms of rebellion were always verbal/intellectual and not physical unless I was seriously pissed. I did hit my younger brother a lot though but he always swung back at me and then after a short scuffle we'd back away and go back to what were doing before.
I don't think its abuse. But theres a limit. Knowing theres a limit is the trick.
OP, do you still hate your parents after you grew up?
This is a serious question
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