Depression, anxiety, suicidalism and similar disorders, issues and troubles V3 - Discussion, help an
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[QUOTE=PredGD;47916360]I feel hopeless socially. my relation to my only friend is tearing at me despite me having a good time while chatting with him. I can understand being tired and not wanting to do something after a days work. I don't work so I got lots of spare time, but he doesn't.
I don't know what I want to do with this friendship. as said, it's really tearing me apart. sometimes it feels wisest to just ditch the entire thing so I don't have to live with the feeling of being slowly torn apart. rather work on my self, figure out about my problems. I don't know if it's a good idea though, I really like this guys company.
sometimes I wish I was able to just ask someone if they wanted to talk, or add people on steam to get to know them. though I don't feel like I'm that kind of guy who just adds people out of nowhere, nor am I the kind of guy to ask for people to add me.
regarding me, I'll start using Zyprexa on Monday and start stepping down on the Abilify simultaneously. I'm really scared of the potential weight gain, diabetes and heart disease from Zyprexa, it's apparently one of the "bad" meds but has a good effect on schizophrenia symptoms. feels like I'm making a deal with the devil. potential weight gain etc for a symptom reduction.
I feel so hopeless and lost[/QUOTE]
Why would you tear that friendship apart? That's a rather silly idea. Work can be very draining, and its not entirely unlikely he feels bad that he hasn't been able to spend more time with you. If you enjoy talking to this person and spending time with them as a friend, tearing it apart because they're not always available is not a good idea. In terms of worries on medication, I wouldn't worry about it intensely. For one thing, if anyone contracts a disorder while on the medical trial for a medication it [I]must[/I] be added to the list of potential symptoms even if its unrelated or extremely rare. Additionally, all of those things you listed are manageable and treatable issues. Weight gain can be taken care of by increasing activity and changing how and [I]what[/I] you eat, and doing that also helps the diabetes and heart disease stuff. Exercise also helps all three. Its not a deal with the devil, really, its trading your schizophrenic symptoms for having to make lifestyle changes. And between the lifestyle changes you may have to make and the fact that the medication should help you feel better, you can improve in several ways at once. You're not hopeless in the slightest.
Do keep your doctor informed about all of your side effects though, and ask them any questions you may have. They have your best interests at heart and will be happy to help you if you're worried about the medication. Its not uncommon for people to come to them with worries about side effects, and they can usually better express why worrying too heavily about side effects is not required then I can. Being around my parents and their coworkers has shown me why thats silly.
For example, I take adderall for my ADHD. One of the side effects they warn you quite thoroughly about is the risk of sudden death to a cardiac event. It made the news a while ago, and went around about how dangerous adderall is and caused a ton of fuss. Thing is, when the FDA did their in-depth review on the medication they found something rather unsurprising. Among 1.2 million teenagers and young adults, totalling up to 373,000 person-years of stimulant usage, there were only 7 serious cardiac events in users of the medication. Each and every one of them had a genetic or personal history of heart and cardiovascular issues, and a few had been not following the instructions for their medication. Regardless, the warning lives on on the label and in the briefing you get from every doc and pharmacist.
My point is, try your best to not worry.
[editline]9th June 2015[/editline]
i am posting too much here :v
[QUOTE=paindoc;47916485]Why would you tear that friendship apart? That's a rather silly idea. Work can be very draining, and its not entirely unlikely he feels bad that he hasn't been able to spend more time with you. If you enjoy talking to this person and spending time with them as a friend, tearing it apart because they're not always available is not a good idea. In terms of worries on medication, I wouldn't worry about it intensely. For one thing, if anyone contracts a disorder while on the medical trial for a medication it [I]must[/I] be added to the list of potential symptoms even if its unrelated or extremely rare. Additionally, all of those things you listed are manageable and treatable issues. Weight gain can be taken care of by increasing activity and changing how and [I]what[/I] you eat, and doing that also helps the diabetes and heart disease stuff. Exercise also helps all three. Its not a deal with the devil, really, its trading your schizophrenic symptoms for having to make lifestyle changes. And between the lifestyle changes you may have to make and the fact that the medication should help you feel better, you can improve in several ways at once. You're not hopeless in the slightest.
Do keep your doctor informed about all of your side effects though, and ask them any questions you may have. They have your best interests at heart and will be happy to help you if you're worried about the medication. Its not uncommon for people to come to them with worries about side effects, and they can usually better express why worrying too heavily about side effects is not required then I can. Being around my parents and their coworkers has shown me why thats silly.
For example, I take adderall for my ADHD. One of the side effects they warn you quite thoroughly about is the risk of sudden death to a cardiac event. It made the news a while ago, and went around about how dangerous adderall is and caused a ton of fuss. Thing is, when the FDA did their in-depth review on the medication they found something rather unsurprising. Among 1.2 million teenagers and young adults, totalling up to 373,000 person-years of stimulant usage, there were only 7 serious cardiac events in users of the medication. Each and every one of them had a genetic or personal history of heart and cardiovascular issues, and a few had been not following the instructions for their medication. Regardless, the warning lives on on the label and in the briefing you get from every doc and pharmacist.
My point is, try your best to not worry.
[editline]9th June 2015[/editline]
i am posting too much here :v[/QUOTE]
ditching the friendship is perhaps not the wisest decision I could make. still, it feels pretty bad when I feel he's often being unclear about things, avoidant and generally a little unstable. he has a history of just removing people all of sudden without explaining why to the other person (there has been a reason every time as far as I'm aware, just never told to the other), I'm afraid I'll end up there as well.
I haven't done much research myself regarding Zyprexa, but my doctor has repeatedly told me its a medicine that has a high risk for the things I said which makes exercise and proper food very important, which in my current state is hard to do. perhaps not a deal with the devil, but it does feel like a gamble. on one side, if it doesn't help enough I might not have the excess energy (like now) to get in activity and watch my food intake, while if it works out those things might become easier.
I suppose I'm not a lost cause by any means, it's just hard to stay positive at times when the few things that keep me going isn't there for me.
I forgot that Zumba exists and decided to do that instead of Just Dance today.
I can say with all confidence that it kicked my ass but I feel great. I wanna keep going but I'm tired as hell.
[QUOTE=PredGD;47916578]ditching the friendship is perhaps not the wisest decision I could make. still, it feels pretty bad when I feel he's often being unclear about things, avoidant and generally a little unstable. he has a history of just removing people all of sudden without explaining why to the other person (there has been a reason every time as far as I'm aware, just never told to the other), I'm afraid I'll end up there as well.
I haven't done much research myself regarding Zyprexa, but my doctor has repeatedly told me its a medicine that has a high risk for the things I said which makes exercise and proper food very important, which in my current state is hard to do. perhaps not a deal with the devil, but it does feel like a gamble. on one side, if it doesn't help enough I might not have the excess energy (like now) to get in activity and watch my food intake, while if it works out those things might become easier.
I suppose I'm not a lost cause by any means, it's just hard to stay positive at times when the few things that keep me going isn't there for me.[/QUOTE]
The friend being unclear to you or suddenly terminating the friendship has nothing to do with you then. There probably isn't a reason worth a damn, and from the sound of it its not you thats being a poor friend.
It is very hard to stay positive, its something I've always struggled with as well. If it was easy though, everyone would be happy all the time. Also it appears so far the weight gain is sharply affected by age, as the percentage of adult patients reporting weight gain on Zyprexa in a placebo controlled study was about 6%, only 3% greater than placebo adult patients. Its about 30% for adolescents (13-17) on Zyprexa though, with 9% of placebo adolescents saying they experienced it. Regardless, keep your doctor informed so they can adjust dosages or find other medicines to work with the Zyprexa to control the non-threatening symptoms. Avoid sites like WebMD. I can share my source if you like, just promise me to not look too deep into it and worry more. Its rather dense as well and features a fair amount of data and formal terminology in the provider oriented section.
transitioning to a different anti-depressant drug in a few weeks so that i don't feel disconnected and numb nearly 24/7 with a erratic sleeping pattern. wish me luck!
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;47915094]My friend with OCD had the most violent outburst he's had since I've known him yesterday, and over a relatively mundane thing. I'm a bit scared to be around him now because I feel like he's in a state where it's really easy for him to snap
I've been recommending he stop smoking weed and maybe get higher dosage/more suitable meds, or even see a therapist, but none of it seems to have gotten through. I'm worried that it's getting to a point where nothing but serious medical intervention is going to help
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does anyone know if there's anything more suitable for severe OCD with anxiety than citalopram?[/QUOTE]
just wanted to quote this for the new page because I'm feeling a little bit lost on this subject. I've dealt with Bipolar type 2 since I was a teen so I'm good at handling depressive people, but this situation seems to be way out of my expertise
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;47916832]just wanted to quote this for the new page because I'm feeling a little bit lost on this subject. I've dealt with Bipolar type 2 since I was a teen so I'm good at handling depressive people, but this situation seems to be way out of my expertise[/QUOTE]
Your friend needs to see whoever is managing their medication as soon as possible. That or you may even consider contacting them yourself, he is a danger to himself and those around him as it stands right now. Try to deal with it as smoothly as you can but no one here is really qualified to offer advice on medication dosing or alternatives in anything but generalities.
HAHA SO I FOUND OUT SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME SUPER HAPPY HOLY SHIT
I can register my already long time best friend (my dog) as a therapy dog. The process costs $65 and takes only a week to certify (given the paperwork is order).
Apparently people with documented (not necessarily professionally diagnosed) depression qualify for therapy dogs. Therapy dogs are immune to most "no pet" rules and laws. That means if my dog is registered, i wouldn't have to worry about if an apartment complex has a no pet rule. They couldn't even legally charge me extra or ask for a pet deposit.
MY BEST FRIEND ISN'T GOING AWAY AAA
And you can bring him (her?) places too :D
Sounds quite nice.
Yes, I'm reading up on it and it's great.
[quote]If a person is physically impaired (disabled) and has individually trained service dog to perform a major life task that the person has trouble performing for him or herself (or an emotional support animal prescribed by a licensed mental health professional), the Fair Housing Amendments Act of 1988 requires the landlord/property manager to make a reasonable accommodation to their policies and allow the tenant to have an emotional support animal. This includes species, breed, and weight policies.
[B][I][U]That means if they have a "cats only" policy, they must accept your service dog. If they have a policy that allows dogs weighing no more than 30 lbs. and your emotional support animal (ESA) weighs 75 lbs., they must make a change in the rules to accommodate you. If they accept all dogs, except pit bulls, and you have a pit bull, they must allow your pit bull to reside with you.[/U][/I][/B][/quote]
[[url=http://www.nsarco.com/emotional-housing.html]x[/url]]
[quote]Verification May Be Required By Property Managers
These laws allows a property manager to accept a letter from the tenant's licensed mental health professional (LMHP) for an ESA, but they may also require a verification form to be completed by a physician or LMHP, confirming the tenant's physical/emotional/psychiatric disability. Despite how much the property manager/landlord does NOT want your service dog or emotional support animal, federal law requires him/her to make a reasonable accommodation in the rules. If they do not, they are discriminating against a disabled person and are in violation of federal law. Here is a link to a government document (one of many) that addresses this issue. See the 3rd page, second column): [url]http://www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/FINALRULE/Pet_Ownership_Final_Rule.pdf[/url][/quote]
holy shiiiit
I'm trying to make a right turn in my life, but no one would let me. I try to learn from my mistakes, but people keep forcing my old ones down my throat. No one leaves me alone.
I just don't know what to do.
[QUOTE=paindoc;47914872]One of the key things for me in realizing my Depression was comorbid or secondary to my ADHD was the fact that it was failings caused by my ADHD symptoms that depressed me, and especially those in academics. I can say for a fact that I haven't felt depressed since starting medications, but be careful with stimulants since they do amplify anxiety and that is something that has been affecting me.[/QUOTE]
Fancy seeing you here,
I'm in the same boat more or less
but thinking back on my past can get me pretty depressed despite how well i'm doing now with the meds
I have found the best thing to keep my mind in a nice place is art. WHY THE FUCK AM I THE ARTISTS TYPE FUCK but not fuck but fuck.
Also only med I'm on is bursprione, only other thing that helps is stimulants which just make everything nice, calm and I get really tried for some reason. Which is much nicer than massive euphoria followed by too restless now must depressed but back to euphoria land
[QUOTE=Secrios;47919058]I'm trying to make a right turn in my life, but no one would let me. I try to learn from my mistakes, but people keep forcing my old ones down my throat. No one leaves me alone.
I just don't know what to do.[/QUOTE]
don't associate with the people that lead you towards making those mistakes again if it's a social peer pressure thing that you can't really control,
don't listen to the people who judge you or constantly remind you of your past mistakes if it makes you feel as though you can't change,
if they try and bring those things up, tell them to fuck off because that's the old you, the new you doesn't have time for that shit,
the new you is a good person that's trying to do what's right, and they're trying to hold you back because they don't want you becoming better than them,
either that or, they don't expect you to be capable of moving on from where you were. Prove them wrong by living up to what you expect of yourself, not what they've grown to expect of you.
I used to get held back by that sort of thing a lot, but once you make the change in yourself and work out your own, inner priorities, it becomes progressively easier to just do you with time and practice
it's not that 'no one would let you', it's that you let them determine your own choices and actions because you haven't yet truly let yourself determine those things, but you'll get there, just keep on doing your thing and pushing towards what's good in life, if you keep pushing forward as best you can keeping this in mind, those mistakes will soon enough be a thing of the past and you'll wonder why you ever let them define you as a person
(for the record I have no clue what mistakes your talking about here, but I know how it feels to let those sort of things define you both internally and externally especially as people's expectations of you lower significantly as a result)
I really think I've been misdiagnosed, back when I was the least stable mentally, I was diagnosed with clinical depression and I took Flouxetine at first, then changed to one I can't remember the name of and then Mirtazapine, all of them without any real success except Mirtazapine made me really drowsy which helped me sleep. Discontinued the medicine for a couple of years and now I've been taking Sertraline for roughly two months and I'm not noticing any notable differences, I feel like there may be too much focus on my depression like it's been taken for granted and there isn't any effort on seeing if there's something else that's wrong with me. I feel like I've recieved such shitty professional help. I want to fix myself, but my friends and family can't really help me other than understanding and being supportive and they are, but when turning to psychologists and doctors it feels like they don't do enough.
The therapy group I've been going to hasn't helped, it feels like nothing I learn there can be applied to my own situation and the last two (of a total of three) appointments with the doctor who prescribes Sertraline for me took less than 20 minutes and I can't really remember the first one but I remember it being really short aswell.
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[QUOTE=Qaus;47918909]HAHA SO I FOUND OUT SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME SUPER HAPPY HOLY SHIT
I can register my already long time best friend (my dog) as a therapy dog. The process costs $65 and takes only a week to certify (given the paperwork is order).
Apparently people with documented (not necessarily professionally diagnosed) depression qualify for therapy dogs. Therapy dogs are immune to most "no pet" rules and laws. That means if my dog is registered, i wouldn't have to worry about if an apartment complex has a no pet rule. They couldn't even legally charge me extra or ask for a pet deposit.
MY BEST FRIEND ISN'T GOING AWAY AAA[/QUOTE]
i want a pet rabbit. assuming that i can help support the intricate needs of one, that would make my existence much better
There is this dude I know for a while. I'm not gonna say his name. We know us for about a year or so and we never had a fight and we were always chill to each other. He was very cute and considered one of my best friend
Yesterday, he blocked me on steam and I have no idea why. I asked him per PM on why he did that, but till this day, I didn't get a response. I have asked his friends if they got blocked too, but that didn't seem to be the case.
I really don't wanna freak out over this but I'm unfortunately very impatient with something like this. He still has me on his friends list, so I'm aware that we still are friends, but I still don't get it why he just blocked me. I have no way to contact him either.
It gets me paranoid if I did the wrong thing and he got pissed about it, even if my last chat between him didn't cause a fight at all. He just went offline for a short time. I noticed that he blocked me because of the private profile. It feels hard that this dude is/was my best friend. When I was talking to my other friends, they might think that it's a personal thing in life and might do that to sort things out in life. I wish to believe that and I really hope that's the case.
I couldn't sleep because of that. It's been a while since I shed tears, but thanks to my other friends who cheered me up and gave advices, I managed to sleep a little later.
Even if I shouldn't be worried about it, I still feel anxious. I want to forget but I can't. I cannot focus on other things anymore, I just wanna know why he would do something like this to me.
I don't hate him for doing that, I sorta feel heart broken.
you can talk to me on steam about it if you want
[QUOTE=Ownederd;47921196]you can talk to me on steam about it if you want[/QUOTE]
I really appreciate your offer, but I think I have said everything I could. I really don't wanna go further then that, I really wanted to get it off my chest.
I've discussed with both of my parents and sent a mail to my psychologist to get an appointment. I am positively sure I have ADHD-PI, it makes so much sense.
sometimes it is so hard just to do anything the fatigue is really pissing me off
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;47923008]I've discussed with both of my parents and sent a mail to my psychologist to get an appointment. I am positively sure I have ADHD-PI, it makes so much sense.[/QUOTE]
I'm happy for you! :dance: You're active and do something. By the way I'm just curios cos I'm a teacher - What are/were the biggest issues at school (difficulties in concentration and starting to do tasks perhaps)?
[editline]10th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Iago;47920624]I think I may have an mental disorder. Also severe memory problems. For a good while I would be in strange situations where I don't remember how I got there. Around those times I usually do/say some really stupid and cringey shit. It gotten so bad the past month I would completely forget meeting up with friends or even just not finishing typing out a text.[/QUOTE]
Your amnesia reminds me the symptoms of the dissociative disorder.
[QUOTE=Davidn64;47921186]There is this dude I know for a while. I'm not gonna say his name. We know us for about a year or so and we never had a fight and we were always chill to each other. He was very cute and considered one of my best friend
Yesterday, he blocked me on steam and I have no idea why. I asked him per PM on why he did that, but till this day, I didn't get a response. I have asked his friends if they got blocked too, but that didn't seem to be the case.
I really don't wanna freak out over this but I'm unfortunately very impatient with something like this. He still has me on his friends list, so I'm aware that we still are friends, but I still don't get it why he just blocked me. I have no way to contact him either.
It gets me paranoid if I did the wrong thing and he got pissed about it, even if my last chat between him didn't cause a fight at all. He just went offline for a short time. I noticed that he blocked me because of the private profile. It feels hard that this dude is/was my best friend. When I was talking to my other friends, they might think that it's a personal thing in life and might do that to sort things out in life. I wish to believe that and I really hope that's the case.
I couldn't sleep because of that. It's been a while since I shed tears, but thanks to my other friends who cheered me up and gave advices, I managed to sleep a little later.
Even if I shouldn't be worried about it, I still feel anxious. I want to forget but I can't. I cannot focus on other things anymore, I just wanna know why he would do something like this to me.
I don't hate him for doing that, I sorta feel heart broken.[/QUOTE]
Okay, a friend of his told me why he did that and it makes me feel relieved. He wants to be alone in peace, so I guess I didn't do anything wrong.
Maybe tomorrow or so, he will be the old bud I know the best <3
spoke with my therapist today regarding Zyprexa, and she told me a story of a girl whom was not named who had great success with it. she was, as me, schizophrenic and had a delusion regarding her sister. she could for some reason not use the bathroom as her sister used it, could not sit in a car she had sat in, couldn't speak with her sister, etc. it was so bad she'd go outdoors to use mother nature as her toilet.
she was put on Zyprexa when she came to the ward I go to and just a week after, all of these delusions were gone. she made great friends with her sister, was able to use the toilet and sit in cars again, etc. of course I don't suffer that much from delusions, but rather the feeling of being unreal, that nothing is real. I hope it'll have that good of an effect on me as well, completely removing or suppressing the feeling enough for it to be tolerable
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;47923008]I've discussed with both of my parents and sent a mail to my psychologist to get an appointment. I am positively sure I have ADHD-PI, it makes so much sense.[/QUOTE]
PI? Is this some new version I haven't kept up to?
[QUOTE=Cha;47923526]I'm happy for you! :dance: You're active and do something. By the way I'm just curios cos I'm a teacher - What are/were the biggest issues at school (difficulties in concentration and starting to do tasks perhaps)?[/QUOTE]
Any task or homework that couldn't be finished within an hour in a single sitting or wasn't interesting enough for me and also any kind of assignment that required repetetive practice or memorization I've always had issues with. I got through a lot of school by not studying at all because of good teachers explaining things on the whiteboard, and being interested in a lot of stuff but in the end I did fail school.
[editline]10th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=kimr120;47923747]PI? Is this some new version I haven't kept up to?[/QUOTE]
ADHD Predominantly Inattentive aka ADD
I might have lost a good friend!!! Maker was banned by Derek in ccof and then perf unbanned the maker and then Derek rebanned!! I didn't know this and then I unbanned maker coz I was like wtf why maker banned then Derek rebanned again and was v mad,, help??
[editline]10th June 2015[/editline]
Nvm he said he was sory for bein rude and then we showed each other our dongs
I guess it isn't normal, but I got huge aching in my stomach's left side when my mom got mad at me for not doing everything properly. She also said I'm always exaggerating, getting angry over nothing. I guess I have tendencies at bipolar, because I just cried and had a really bad fatigue and headache...
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