Depression, anxiety, suicidalism and similar disorders, issues and troubles V3 - Discussion, help an - General

Really close friend of mine has always dealt with depression, but fuck he's got it bad right now, hope to god I can work through it with him.

Why can't everyone be like me and pay attention to every single message, notification and everything else? I don't leave the house without a device with an internet connection/a power bank in case it runs out of power/a spare phone in case both the previous things don't have power. It depresses me how I'm being ignored because it's confusing. If she's seeking attention, she has it. All of my attention. If she's not, why ignore me? What did I do wrong?

Not gonna lie, went and took a cold shower, got a shave, and got somewhat nicely dressed. Looked at myself in the mirror and said "DAMN DUDE YOU SEXY AS FUCK" and I genuinely feel a lot better. I know it's pretty fucking silly but it improved my mood.

So what options are left when you've been through cbt it didn't work but mental health services have discharged you and your on your own

Because of my childhood trauma I can't handle rejection very well. How do you deal with it when somebody, a very important person to you, doesn't care as much as you do and doesn't want to be your friend or cut off you. Yeah, time will heal... Do you have any ideas to grieve and move on faster?

This may sound odd but has anyone here ever felt manic symptoms since taking antidepressants. I recently saw a doctor and was prescribed them and I've started to have moments of intense energy and feeling high daily, its almost like being drunk but without the physical impairment.

do any of you know if caffeine can worsen schizophrenia symptoms? haven't been able to find any info on the internet about it. I've consumed way over the recommended daily amount (usually 600-900mg) of caffeine pretty much daily for years. if caffeine worsens schizophrenia symptoms, then I'd gladly go cold turkey on caffeine to reduce my symptoms.

[QUOTE=richandricher;48277033]This may sound odd but has anyone here ever felt manic symptoms since taking antidepressants. I recently saw a doctor and was prescribed them and I've started to have moments of intense energy and feeling high daily, its almost like being drunk but without the physical impairment.[/QUOTE] You should talk to your doctor.

[QUOTE=richandricher;48277033]This may sound odd but has anyone here ever felt manic symptoms since taking antidepressants. I recently saw a doctor and was prescribed them and I've started to have moments of intense energy and feeling high daily, its almost like being drunk but without the physical impairment.[/QUOTE] Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but if I recall correctly that happens if you have bipolar syndrome and take antidepressants. You should talk to your doctor about it as soon as possible.

[QUOTE=PredGD;48277607]do any of you know if caffeine can worsen schizophrenia symptoms? haven't been able to find any info on the internet about it. I've consumed way over the recommended daily amount (usually 600-900mg) of caffeine pretty much daily for years. if caffeine worsens schizophrenia symptoms, then I'd gladly go cold turkey on caffeine to reduce my symptoms.[/QUOTE] I feel like caffeine can worsen or exaggerate a lot of different symptoms of different conditions. Caffeine affects even neurotypical people in negative ways, so I imagine the effects would be tenfold in neurodivergent people.

[QUOTE=Pascall;48278169]I feel like caffeine can worsen or exaggerate a lot of different symptoms of different conditions. Caffeine affects even neurotypical people in negative ways, so I imagine the effects would be tenfold in neurodivergent people.[/QUOTE] yeah, I was thinking the same. all I'm able to find on the internet about it is to "avoid stimulants" so I assume caffeine falls under that. can't wait until my therapist is back so I can ask her about it. I suppose I'll avoid caffeine for the time being and see how that works out

[QUOTE=PredGD;48278353]yeah, I was thinking the same. all I'm able to find on the internet about it is to "avoid stimulants" so I assume caffeine falls under that. can't wait until my therapist is back so I can ask her about it. I suppose I'll avoid caffeine for the time being and see how that works out[/QUOTE] Avoid caffeine in general if you are taking medication for a mental disorder, with me it stacks with my adderall and can make me much more anxious flighty and jumpy. So consider tapering your usage or cutting it off completely.

[QUOTE=paindoc;48278362]Avoid caffeine in general if you are taking medication for a mental disorder, with me it stacks with my adderall and can make me much more anxious flighty and jumpy. So consider tapering your usage or cutting it off completely.[/QUOTE] I haven't been able to find anything about caffeine interfering with Zyprexa/Olanzapine which I take 20mg of. I think I'll try to quit caffeine anyway. I have higher than the recommended amount of magnesium in the blood anyway which apparently is caused by the excessive amount of caffeine I consume my doctor says. wish me luck

I'm a month into having my antipsychotic for mania and I think I'm already getting a tolerance. 5mg abilify. I see my doctor in two weeks and he'll probably up me to ten... Does the tolerance keep building so fast though or does it plateau?

[QUOTE=Tone Float;48278468]I'm a month into having my antipsychotic for mania and I think I'm already getting a tolerance. 5mg abilify. I see my doctor in two weeks and he'll probably up me to ten... Does the tolerance keep building so fast though or does it plateau?[/QUOTE] does Abilify build a tolerance at all? how are you feeling that you might be building a tolerance against it? I used to take 30mg of it for my schizophrenia and was never told that you can build a tolerance against it

[QUOTE=richandricher;48277033]This may sound odd but has anyone here ever felt manic symptoms since taking antidepressants. I recently saw a doctor and was prescribed them and I've started to have moments of intense energy and feeling high daily, its almost like being drunk but without the physical impairment.[/QUOTE] I had something similar to that when I started taking antidepressants. It passes. Been on them for a few months now, and I just feel normal.

[QUOTE=PredGD;48278509]does Abilify build a tolerance at all? how are you feeling that you might be building a tolerance against it? I used to take 30mg of it for my schizophrenia and was never told that you can build a tolerance against it[/QUOTE] I'm less able to read books without arising to pace every few minutes, compared to earlier.

This seems like an ample place to vent one's frustrations.. I dont feel like my current situation is fucked beyond repair, i know exactly what to do and how to fix it.. but like every summer i get fucking lazy and having no social life or job makes you waste so much goddamned time. It was good when i was working a temp job and making some dough, but ive been 3 or 4 weeks out and im not even a third as productive right now. 5 weeks till i go to school again and by then ill have way less time to tackle my social issues. and to top it all off im fucking sick which ruined my plans for the weekend.

I'm not really sure where to go about this, but I've been experiencing something that's been a bigger burden on my shoulders than anything I've had to deal with so far. Over the course of several months (maybe 4-5) I've been dealing with a condition I believe is called depersonalization. It goes under several different names, the most popular of which are dissociation, derealization, detachment, etc, and is probably the worst thing I've ever had hanging over my head - and the best way I could describe it is observing life from behind a window. Emotionally I feel everything just fine. I can laugh, smile, and react appropriately towards everything. Some people with this condition describe having very little emotion and huge lack of empathy whereas I just have an abnormality of perception. It started when I had to stay awake to tend to my dad, who was ill in the past. I'd have to stay awake maybe 30-36 hours at a time, and I would do this two times every month to two months. Then, I'd awoken one morning - and it was like a switch was flicked. I felt divorced from myself. I felt floaty as hell. That was back in April. It's July now, nearing August, and I've had a rollercoaster with this condition. On certain days, it's better. On other days, it's not. Recently I've had to stay up late and that seems to have made it worsen. It's also hand-in-hand with some of my sleep problems; I notice I've been dreaming a lot more lately, and I have a lot of awakenings throughout the morning when I'm trying to sleep in. With that, I ask - has anyone ever had experience with this condition? If so, is it permanent? I really don't want to go searching around the internet because there are radically different viewpoints on this.

Since the beginning of summer I've been working out but it's amounted to nothing. My weight fluctuates from 88 to 86 kg, the lowest I've gotten was 79. I don't even eat that much, I try to avoid eating altogether. Fuck, I even doubled my work out schedule. It feels like I'm a fucking failure, I just feel so dissapointed in myself. Like why did I put myself through all of that hard work and shit if there's no reward? I'm the same fat fuck that I was at the beginning of summer, I've achieved nothing. I suck.

[QUOTE=Eldariub;48281959]Since the beginning of summer I've been working out but it's amounted to nothing. My weight fluctuates from 88 to 86 kg, the lowest I've gotten was 79. I don't even eat that much, I try to avoid eating altogether. Fuck, I even doubled my work out schedule. It feels like I'm a fucking failure, I just feel so dissapointed in myself. Like why did I put myself through all of that hard work and shit if there's no reward? I'm the same fat fuck that I was at the beginning of summer, I've achieved nothing. I suck.[/QUOTE] It sounds like you weren't on a properly scheduled diet. If you were doing weights for your workout than usually the goal is to gain muscle which still weighs a good deal. If you're doing cardio to actually lose weight then you need to get on a proper diet and try doing the cardio every day. The important thing to remember is that weight loss takes times.

I have literally no motivation. I want to die so much but at the same time my anxiety makes me scared of the very thought of death. I kinda just wish I could sleep it off for like 7 years.

Hey friends, I've been depressed for about 3-4 years now (I kind of forgot all together, felt like I've been wasting my life away) and I'm very concerned about my recent thoughts of breaking up with my girlfriend. I really have been questioning the relationship all together, but I also keep remembered the pleasant. I am at a lose and had no idea what I want. I'm about to leave her for college in 3 weeks and I'm so confused.

[QUOTE=AlexGT;48281933]I'm not really sure where to go about this, but I've been experiencing something that's been a bigger burden on my shoulders than anything I've had to deal with so far. Over the course of several months (maybe 4-5) I've been dealing with a condition I believe is called depersonalization. It goes under several different names, the most popular of which are dissociation, derealization, detachment, etc, and is probably the worst thing I've ever had hanging over my head - and the best way I could describe it is observing life from behind a window. Emotionally I feel everything just fine. I can laugh, smile, and react appropriately towards everything. Some people with this condition describe having very little emotion and huge lack of empathy whereas I just have an abnormality of perception. It started when I had to stay awake to tend to my dad, who was ill in the past. I'd have to stay awake maybe 30-36 hours at a time, and I would do this two times every month to two months. Then, I'd awoken one morning - and it was like a switch was flicked. I felt divorced from myself. I felt floaty as hell. That was back in April. It's July now, nearing August, and I've had a rollercoaster with this condition. On certain days, it's better. On other days, it's not. Recently I've had to stay up late and that seems to have made it worsen. It's also hand-in-hand with some of my sleep problems; I notice I've been dreaming a lot more lately, and I have a lot of awakenings throughout the morning when I'm trying to sleep in. With that, I ask - has anyone ever had experience with this condition? If so, is it permanent? I really don't want to go searching around the internet because there are radically different viewpoints on this.[/QUOTE] Depersonalization usually goes hand in hand with other psychological disorders. Is there anything else you've experienced since around the time this started? Anxiety, depression, general ongoing stress? [editline]25th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Eldariub;48281959]Since the beginning of summer I've been working out but it's amounted to nothing. My weight fluctuates from 88 to 86 kg, the lowest I've gotten was 79. I don't even eat that much, I try to avoid eating altogether. Fuck, I even doubled my work out schedule. It feels like I'm a fucking failure, I just feel so dissapointed in myself. Like why did I put myself through all of that hard work and shit if there's no reward? I'm the same fat fuck that I was at the beginning of summer, I've achieved nothing. I suck.[/QUOTE] As someone who used to workout regularly for a long time, I can say that losing weight takes time (A LOT of time). Skipping meals will actually hinder your progress since your body will go into starvation mode and will slow down your metabolism dramatically. Eat healthy, keep working out and don't worry so much about your weight at first, work on improving your endurance. Set goals like, "today I will try to run X amount of kilometers, day after tomorrow I will try to beat that", and so on, so forth. If you're just trying to put on muscle, make sure you have days in your schedule for resting (this goes for cardio as well). The body needs to have a chance to recover before the next workout. A lack of progress can also be a sign of overtraining. If you're pushing yourself harder than you should be, you will get very little progress, especially when it comes to building muscle. How tall are you?

friendships are difficult to maintain I feel. I'm always exhausted so I don't feel that natural need to speak with somebody, so either I speak to them too often (which lost me an irl friend) or I don't speak to them at all and rely entirely on them starting conversations. if someone wants to do something, I mask myself being exhausted and play along. I'm always exhausted as I mentioned so I feel like I should say yes every time else it'll always be a no. at the same time, I feel a need to be with people. I feel a need to be social. being exhausted all the time really gets in the way since I don't know when I've asked too much or said too little. I consciously have to figure out all this which used to go automatic. ughhhh

[QUOTE=PredGD;48293162]friendships are difficult to maintain I feel. I'm always exhausted so I don't feel that natural need to speak with somebody, so either I speak to them too often (which lost me an irl friend) or I don't speak to them at all and rely entirely on them starting conversations. if someone wants to do something, I mask myself being exhausted and play along. I'm always exhausted as I mentioned so I feel like I should say yes every time else it'll always be a no. at the same time, I feel a need to be with people. I feel a need to be social. being exhausted all the time really gets in the way since I don't know when I've asked too much or said too little. I consciously have to figure out all this which used to go automatic. ughhhh[/QUOTE] I don't want to intrude you but I don't know you and I'd like know if be exhausted is more about you're introvert or your illness or both. I'm introvert myself but I become exhausted with people because I feel hurt easily and I need solitude to feel balanced again.

[QUOTE=Cha;48293322]I don't want to intrude you but I don't know you and I'd like know if be exhausted is more about you're introvert or your illness or both. I'm introvert myself but I become exhausted with people because I feel hurt easily and I need solitude to feel balanced again.[/QUOTE] I would say I lean more towards being an extrovert. I love being with people and used to be very socially outgoing, but after my schizophrenia got worse I've had the issues I described in my post

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i have a hard time mustering up emotions when they're appropriate, yet i can do the opposite for things that don't warrant any real consideration. i know several people who have some serious issues: homelessness, alcoholic parents, poverty, and a range of other adversities. but when they bring them up, i can't bring myself to feel more than a little sadness over the things they're going through. worse than that, i don't know what to say or how to respond. i know that the appropriate reaction should be something along the lines of sympathy and commiseration, but i can't bring myself to fake that kind of reaction, since it'd just sound forced and campy. and yet, the dumbest shit in the world can leave me feeling like garbage. something as simple as a friend-in-a-bad-mood getting snippy with me over an off-handed comment i made can leave me feeling rejected and deathly worried that their opinion of me has suddenly changed such that they want to stop being my friend. it's utterly ridiculous, and completely out of proportion to the actual situation, and i don't know how to adjust. worse, almost all of these concerns are inwardly-focused. contrast that with the much more difficult problems that my friends are going through, and i feel like a selfish narcissist with his head up his own ass.

I'm in a weird position where everyone else feels so distant like I'm just watching. Like none of my actions have or will really matter. There's lots of segments to this, but the main thing is that I don't feel like I have any agency in this world. I have lots of friends, two very close friends and I'm set to graduate. I'm not at all happy and my anxiety has come back after 3 years of thinking I grew out of it. And this depression has never been stronger but I'm not getting suicidal thoughts at this stage. Do you guys think this might be a brain chemistry thing? That I should go see a doctor?