Depression, anxiety, suicidalism and similar disorders, issues and troubles V3 - Discussion, help an - General

What the fuck's the point of making a post like that? There's a reason this thread exists, post what's troubling you.

[QUOTE=KandyMan;43606998]What's the point of influencing myself if it won't change anything anymore. I wish I was born a normal person with a normal life instead of this shit. Not necesarily a happy life, I just want to be like a normal human person - have talents, hobbies, have friends and hang around with them, but no. Depression's ruining my current self, and it's ruining what's left of my future. Of course, some people would say "How can you know what your future is?" "Future is impossible to predict", etc, but in what state I am, it's not hard to predict.[/QUOTE] "What's the point" "I want to have talents, hobbies, friends" "Depression is ruining me". I hear these statements a lot, and I hear you too bro. Here's the thing about Depression. It makes us NOT want to do anything, makes us want to give up, makes us want to not try, it makes it harder to see the more positive aspects, it makes it harder to think more positively. What does this all do? It KEEPS us in Depression. Bro you need to fight back against yourself. Those statements you made are something I like to call "do-nothingism", do-nothingism is a bitch. When you're feeling down and dumpy you don't feel like doing shit and when you don't do shit you continue to feel worse and stay in your hole so to speak. You know what you need to do? You need to START doing shit. Life isn't going to get any better if you don't put effort into it. But "I've tried putting effort into it and it never works" well to that statement I say BS. Yes, you might have tried and failed which is entirely possible, but if you just give up and let depression take a dump on your face than you'll NEVER get any better. You need to motivate yourself to action, if you want to have talents and hobbies and friends well...start playing guitar, go for a run, start weightlifting, continue drawing, do that thing you ALWAYS used to do but stopped since you started feeling depressed, socialize with people. Also...consider talking to yourself differently. For instance, instead of saying "Man, this day is going to be shit again" consider saying "Well, I truthfully don't know what this day will bring, but we'll see". The key is balanced talk (not entirely negative, not delusionally positive, but a healthy balance of grey with a tint of positivity) . Remember! KEY POINT. The negative inner voice is ALWAYS wrong. Anyways. I tried to throw in all my key points there. Hope you could get something good out of it. Oh yeah, one more analogy for yah. Depression is a sickness/medical complaint (it is, trust me). If you had a broken leg and you had to go to physical therapy but you didn't do the physical therapy what would happen? It wouldn't get any better and would heal all ugly. Mental illnesses can be like the same way, we need to engage and work against it to become healthier again.

Hey FP, sorry for making this long ass post about myself but I think sharing this might also help you to think more positively and inspire you not to give up and keep fighting. I've read your posts and I figured this could be an example of why you should keep delaying and delaying your death until the natural one. So here goes the story: I've had a massive depression since I was 12-13 years old ever since I went to lower-secondary school (junior high if you like). I was basically bullied and my parents had very high expectations on me, so I was on a constant stress (I couldn't tell my mother because I found out she had a rough childhood and didn't want to mentally break her). I also found out that my mother didn't like me because she has to put a lot of effort in taking care of me as a kid and she was stressed. However, what stroke my heart was when I overheard her conversation with her friend: she really never wanted a second child, only my father and brother wanted to so she "didn't have a choice". So, as the time went on my self-esteem was gradually becoming lower and lower, but I managed to fight the junior high through and made to one of the respected senior high I wanted to. But the problems didn't end and I found myself depressed again. Bullying had ended, but it left some changes to me: I was afraid of social contacts and I have some degree of social anxiety. I was lucky enough to make some friends still on my freshman year, and it was pretty important to me (I realized this a few days ago, I'll explain later). The amount of school work wasn't the same anymore, we had to do a lot of work to maintain the same grades I had (trust me, Finnish junior high is a joke in terms of getting grades. With just a little effort you could get an 8 or even 9 from the scale of 4-10, 4 being fail). With the pressure from my mother I had no choice but to keep studying hard because I didn't want to be a disappointment and I was still a teenager that time, dealing with all sorts of mental changes. I was living like in a rollercoaster, a typical situation for teenagers when the mood changes every minute: One day everyday was fine, and the other day everything was shit. The "everything was shit" part reached to its peak just after my 19th birthday. Last week I was in Switzerland visiting CERN with a Physics group (7 from our school and only the best were elected so I think this was some kind of an accomplishment). Except I wasn't really used to hanging around with some drunk people from another school and felt really anxious about it. I went back to our hostel room and just sat on the bed, thinking what the fuck was going on. Soon my mind was flooded with bad memories from the past, for example how one of my ex-friends told me they become my friend just because of the pity that I was alone back when I was in elementary school. Another one was how my mother told me straight she didn't want another child, I was like what the fuck, but as a teenage boy I couldn't really express my feelings properly. As the memories were flooding and causing my head to ache I just couldn't stop thinking about the window that was open (our room was at 4th floor). I felt like it was a sign for quick exit, a path to escape from the prison. I felt so shit I almost came to a conclusion that I was really just trapped in my own body, but my mind was also "split". The other part was for fighting and the other part was for giving up. So I waited and waited until the rest people from my group came back to our room, preparing to go outside and have a dinner. My mind was pretty fucked at that moment and I went to the elevator. Then I realized I had forgotten my keycard on the bed so I asked a friend of mine to help me locate it. When only me and him were in the room I just broke down and told him everything I could. Then we sat down, me crying and him sitting there. This was probably the best moment of my life because as we were sitting he asked me to look at him. I looked at him and saw his smile, and memorized his words that whatever happens he'll be there, supporting me (not that this was gay :v: ). So basically he saved my life, who knows what might've happened if he wasn't there. At home I was finally brave enough to tell things to my mother about the pressure etc. Well, almost brave enough. I wasn't entirely happy and was still worried about the problems back home. But my mom noticed my sadness and began waiting. I was very hesitant and didn't want to tell her (not about that I hate her, but that I care for her). So again, gradually she patiently waited there, trying to find out what is really wrong about me. I began telling her how I was depressed and told her how I heard about her not wanting me. Well, I'm so fucking glad it was just a misconception from me. I learned that she still loves me, but taking care of children (in general) is like a pain in the ass. So we both broke when she said how I chose not to suicide, because I do give a shit about my mother and my friends (my friend also remarked how I picked the right choice). This was probably the end of my deep depression, because I really felt how the 6 years of depression was released from me. I was literally crying and laughing at the same time. Really, I shit you not FP, this is just one of the experiences that makes the life more intriguing: The feeling when you realize that not every bad thing is true is just absolutely amazing. To ensure that things will go better, I've already arranged a time to a psychologist and asked my friend to force me to go there if I suddenly change my mind again. So today, I'm writing this long ass story to share to you. But my purpose isn't the shit you think it is, my purpose is to show you that there is always hope. When I was young I was afraid to talk. Can't really blame anything because this is how we are when we reach the puberty: everything changes so quickly and we don't really know about ourselves. So dear FP, I just want you guys to look forward. Talk to any people you know and whom you can trust. Hell, you could even talk here too if the situation is really bad. We're here to help and expressing your thoughts really helps you. At least in my case. All I want is pretty simple: don't waste the gift that was given to you. This particular gift is a very unique one: every human has an individual one. And like people on the internet says, you only live once :)

That's awesome, man, good for you! Having a strong relationship with a parent is a wonderful feeling, and it sounds like you're well on your way towards forming a stronger bond with your mom. That's also super cool about the CERN thing, you should definitely be proud about that.

I've had a miscarriage with my first not so long ago and I'm absolutely heartbroken. Any suggestions as to how to cope? At times I just want to curl up in a ball and never wake up. I feel dead inside. I bet my ex will be reading this message and laughing.

[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;43670788]I've had a miscarriage with my first not so long ago and I'm absolutely heartbroken. I bet my ex will be reading this message and laughing.[/QUOTE] You know I'm here to talk if you ever need to. (sorry for the zing, Damn touchscreens)

[QUOTE=Someguy13;43669784]Hey FP, sorry for making this long ass post about myself but I think sharing this might also help you to think more positively and inspire you not to give up and keep fighting. I've read your posts and I figured this could be an example of why you should keep delaying and delaying your death until the natural one.[/QUOTE] Glad to hear you overcame your problems and found out several of your fears were misconceptions. I don't know what else to say to be honest, but I appreciate you for sharing that.

I decided to stop going to therapy once a week, I'm doing it once a month now. My therapist doesn't really have experience with this problem that I have, considering it's probably very rare. She thinks it's daddy issues, but I disagree. I was just really angst and hated pretty much anyone who wasn't "mature enough" to be around me. [QUOTE=RayvenQ;43672261]You know I'm here to talk if you ever need to. (sorry for the zing, Damn touchscreens)[/QUOTE] Oh fuck touchscreens and ratings. I have to zoom until the rating is the size of my screen in order to accurately rate.

Today was my birthday. I had a fun time, went out the night before and went to dinner with some friends a few hours ago. But I'm sitting here right now, feeling like literal death. I can physically feel my body is being weighed down by tons of bricks. I don't want to feel fucking sad, but it's hard not to. My parents told me today how proud they were of me, and in my birthday card they wrote "You are brilliant. Never stop and always give it your all" and "my baby is all grown up, I love you", but I feel like I'm letting them down by feeling depressed. What the hell do i do. I don't want to feel like this.

I'm finding that its not a fear of the past or a fear of past regret and self hate in the present that is causing my recent surge in depression. I'm finding that its the future; yes the future that is making me feel so shaken. But how, how can whats not transpired inspire fear and this certain loathing for the future. How can what I've not lived yet effect how I live now through IT. Its what I haven't done yet that is controlling how I live now and I FUCKING HATE IT. Its a paradoxical "regretting the future" that seems to dominate my train of thought. I want to be all I can be, I want to be there for friends and family but I don't want to live the future if that makes any sense. I already feel like that I will mess it up, I feel like I don't have a place in the future for some odd reason and that is why the thoughts of dying creep into my mind, its avoiding the future. It's why I almost love my dreams more then I do the waking world, the dreams are where I can shape everything. Gaming is where I can shape everything, I have no fears when I play a game with friends or even without. It is a place where I can belong and fit in, a place where I can laugh and enjoy life in the present. It would be so easy to just not have a future and put myself into the ground but I don't want to. Do I have an attachment problem because I don't want to let go of the present? I don't know, I feel insane, this post possibly seems like the ramblings of someone who has snapped.

It seems like Prozac has effectively numbed my sexual desire. I honestly wish I had Prozac instead of fluvox because this would've been benificial to me at that time.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43674300]It seems like Prozac has effectively numbed my sexual desire. I honestly wish I had Prozac instead of fluvox because this would've been benificial to me at that time.[/QUOTE] Most of, if not all, anti-depressants numb sexual arousal. That was a reason why I have come off of them completely for 2 years and counting, the major reason being that they made me feel numb. Hell, even whenever I tried to crack a smile it made my face ache. I'd rather be myself than have the pills make me into who I was, you know?

I feel like SHIT, so I'll just dump my entire feelings right here. People say it makes you feel better. So hey there. My name is Rob, and I'm 15 years old. Haven't seen much, but still, somehow my life is complete shit. There's this depression that's been going on for a few months, basically it started when I started to go to school again (September 1st) In a nutshell, this is what I feel: I don't want to do anything because everything that I do feels absolutely worthless, no matter how much effort I put in. Shit hasn't been that bad lately, to be honest; but there was this event called "a night at school". Basically, the school would be transformed into an amusement park of some sort: you could watch movies, play board games, listen to music (which was played live by a band) and etc. So I went there, because, well, I had lotsa free time. Still, it would be better to hang out there instead of playing videogames the entire day, even if I'm a social retard. However, little did I know that this would cause some of the biggest feels. See, there's this one that I like. (no homo) But for some reason, she seems to be incredibly hostile towards me. If I try to talk to her (fully friendly, no humiliation intended or anything like that), the best thing I can hear out of her is "fuck you". What the hell? She completely avoids me for some reason, even when I didn't do anything wrong to her. At least I think so. So at that point, I was completely crushed. I felt like no matter what I do, there's always someone that does it better. And I know the rules of the world; only the strongest survive. I knew that I was middle class or even a social retard-tier dumbass that can't grasp the principles of human communication. There was no motivation to do anything. Why do I need to try to do ANYTHING when there's always someone that WILL do better than you no matter what? Obviously, the idea that instantly came to my mind is that I should have tried harder when I was very young. I should have gone outside, should have engaged in various activities. But I was a loner. So I still watched a couple of movies, hanged out with my friends. I didn't tell them anything about that, obviously, because that would have caused a shitstorm. You might say "no, it wouldn't", but you would be wrong. I'm experienced enough to know what reactions would that provide. And they wouldn't be good ones. Everything was going well, but at about 3 AM, I've noticed that my chosen one started to hang around with others. So basically she shunned me and chose some other guy. At that point, I was completely pissed and wanted to fucking kill her. But somehow, I managed it; returned home, and fell asleep quick. I was tired. The next day; felt like complete shit. And now I'm writing this now, still feeling like complete shit. Does it make me feel better right now? No, it doesn't; I guess I need to talk to some more people. [editline]26th January 2014[/editline] By the way, I still have hopes of having her... you know what I'm talking about. I'm not giving up yet. I just don't know what I should do...

I feel like my depression would get a lot better if i stopped bottling up shit.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;43662992]My doctor halfed my dosage of Effexor (Venlafaxine). Hopefully I'll be fully off of anti-depressants by my next med checkup. I've come a long way in the two years since my last hospitalization, I hope you all can break through your depression or whatever issues you may face.[/QUOTE] Hey man, I take Effexor too and let me just congratulate you on getting off it! :D Effexor for me was a pile of bullshit, I was on a really high dose and all it ever did was make it so I couldn't climax in bed, and if I went more than 2 or 3 days without it I'd get 'absence' effects and my body would pretty much shut down and die, fuck that was scary. I've switched over to medical cannabis (one of the few in Australia who can legally obtain it, legally) and it has completely changed my life for the better.

[QUOTE=Antivirus_404;43675559]I feel like SHIT, so I'll just dump my entire feelings right here. People say it makes you feel better. So hey there. My name is Rob, and I'm 15 years old. Haven't seen much, but still, somehow my life is complete shit. There's this depression that's been going on for a few months, basically it started when I started to go to school again (September 1st) In a nutshell, this is what I feel: I don't want to do anything because everything that I do feels absolutely worthless, no matter how much effort I put in. Shit hasn't been that bad lately, to be honest; but there was this event called "a night at school". Basically, the school would be transformed into an amusement park of some sort: you could watch movies, play board games, listen to music (which was played live by a band) and etc. So I went there, because, well, I had lotsa free time. Still, it would be better to hang out there instead of playing videogames the entire day, even if I'm a social retard. However, little did I know that this would cause some of the biggest feels. See, there's this one that I like. (no homo) But for some reason, she seems to be incredibly hostile towards me. If I try to talk to her (fully friendly, no humiliation intended or anything like that), the best thing I can hear out of her is "fuck you". What the hell? She completely avoids me for some reason, even when I didn't do anything wrong to her. At least I think so. So at that point, I was completely crushed. I felt like no matter what I do, there's always someone that does it better. And I know the rules of the world; only the strongest survive. I knew that I was middle class or even a social retard-tier dumbass that can't grasp the principles of human communication. There was no motivation to do anything. Why do I need to try to do ANYTHING when there's always someone that WILL do better than you no matter what? Obviously, the idea that instantly came to my mind is that I should have tried harder when I was very young. I should have gone outside, should have engaged in various activities. But I was a loner. So I still watched a couple of movies, hanged out with my friends. I didn't tell them anything about that, obviously, because that would have caused a shitstorm. You might say "no, it wouldn't", but you would be wrong. I'm experienced enough to know what reactions would that provide. And they wouldn't be good ones. Everything was going well, but at about 3 AM, I've noticed that my chosen one started to hang around with others. So basically she shunned me and chose some other guy. At that point, I was completely pissed and wanted to fucking kill her. But somehow, I managed it; returned home, and fell asleep quick. I was tired. The next day; felt like complete shit. And now I'm writing this now, still feeling like complete shit. Does it make me feel better right now? No, it doesn't; I guess I need to talk to some more people. [editline]26th January 2014[/editline] By the way, I still have hopes of having her... you know what I'm talking about. I'm not giving up yet. I just don't know what I should do...[/QUOTE] it sounds like you should cut ties with this girl completely. either she is emotionally unreliable or she doesn't value you as much as you value her. I was in a similar situation with a girl back when I was 15 too. she was pretty much unreliable when it came to emotions etc. one day she could be really happy to be with me, sit close with me, and other days she'd be pissed off at me, not wanting to talk etc. it really broke me apart from the inside since she gave me so many mixed signals. eventually I met another girl who I ended up getting together with, which helped me break my ties to this other girl. so that's my advice to you, cut the ties between you too. it's most likely not gonna work out in the end, sadly.

[QUOTE=PredGD;43675921]it sounds like you should cut ties with this girl completely. either she is emotionally unreliable or she doesn't value you as much as you value her. I was in a similar situation with a girl back when I was 15 too. she was pretty much unreliable when it came to emotions etc. one day she could be really happy to be with me, sit close with me, and other days she'd be pissed off at me, not wanting to talk etc. it really broke me apart from the inside since she gave me so many mixed signals. eventually I met another girl who I ended up getting together with, which helped me break my ties to this other girl. so that's my advice to you, cut the ties between you too. it's most likely not gonna work out in the end, sadly.[/QUOTE] As much as I'd want to, I simply can't get her out of my head. And I'm determined to... wait, you seem to make sense. I just remembered that saying "smart people learn from the mistakes of others". My past classmate made a mistake with her... crap, maybe I should really try to forget about her. You know, my Dad says "there's only one step between hatred and love". And maybe he's right... all I get out of her is blind hatred, it's almost... ahh, I've got at least 3 ideas why is she mad at me. Don't want to post them here because I'd probably get lots of shit being thrown at me. Oh dear Lord, I can sense the incredible amount of pain incoming. Not getting what I want was one of my worst personality traits.

[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;43675235]Most of, if not all, anti-depressants numb sexual arousal. That was a reason why I have come off of them completely for 2 years and counting, the major reason being that they made me feel numb. Hell, even whenever I tried to crack a smile it made my face ache. I'd rather be myself than have the pills make me into who I was, you know?[/QUOTE] That's why I've never taken anti depressants, because I feel like it's trying to fix a crack in the wall by putting wallpaper over it, it might hide the problem, but it doesn't fix the underlying problem, kind of like taking painkillers for a broken leg, it may stop the pain, but it isn't going to get your leg healed. Depression, much like pain, [I]isn't[/I] a cause of something, it's a symptom, it's your body telling you (admittedly from our viewpoint, unwantedtly a lot of times) that something is wrong, whether its an emotional state thats leaving you vulnerable to it, or a chemical imbalance. [quote]Oh dear Lord, I can sense the incredible amount of pain incoming. Not getting what I want was one of my worst personality traits. [/quote] I've been through similar, twice, and yes, it hurts, it can hurt like hell, but some time down the road, whether it's months or years, you'll look back and think "Why the hell did i waste my time/feelings on that asshole?!" Although there are times when I used to think "was there more i could have done" until i fully realised that sometimes, no matter how much you do, it just isn't going to be and there's nothing you can do. The best thing I've done, is "give into" the realisation that life is, actually, a bit shit some of the time, you're never going to get everything you want and try for, so all you can do is try your best and if it's not enough? Then *shrug* you've tried, jot it down in your life list in the "shit" category and move on, knowing that you've done all you can, and you should feel good that you have, even if it hasn't worked out.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;43677182]That's why I've never taken anti depressants, because I feel like it's trying to fix a crack in the wall by putting wallpaper over it, it might hide the problem, but it doesn't fix the underlying problem, kind of like taking painkillers for a broken leg, it may stop the pain, but it isn't going to get your leg healed. Depression, much like pain, [I]isn't[/I] a cause of something, it's a symptom, it's your body telling you (admittedly from our viewpoint, unwantedtly a lot of times) that something is wrong, whether its an emotional state thats leaving you vulnerable to it, or a chemical imbalance.[/QUOTE] That's exactly why I wouldn't take anti-depressants. The best way to deal with a problem is to solve it. And thanks for the help. I could try to do everything I can, but I don't even know what to do at this point.

[QUOTE=Antivirus_404;43677260]That's exactly why I wouldn't take anti-depressants. The best way to deal with a problem is to solve it. And thanks for the help. I could try to do everything I can, but I don't even know what to do at this point.[/QUOTE] Sometimes there's nothing you can do but let it go, believe me, it's hard, but possible, if I can get rid of my ex of [B]Seven Years[/B] you can let go of this girl, yes, it'll be painful, but you'll move on in time and feel better for it.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;43677295]Sometimes there's nothing you can do but let it go, believe me, it's hard, but possible, if I can get rid of my ex of [B]Seven Years[/B] you can let go of this girl, yes, it'll be painful, but you'll move on in time and feel better for it.[/QUOTE] I already realized that it's going to be incredibly hard. Currently, I have to do a ton of homework, but I just don't want to do anything at all... there's this incredibly uncomfortable feeling that if she isn't by my side, there's a high chance that she's hanging out with somebody else... it's killing me. I can't stand it... The good part is that I've had the same damn feeling for the exact same person in the exact same time before (exactly one year ago, wow, such coincidence), and I let go after some time. But now I feel the same shit again. I wonder why does it repeat exactly at winter.

You can stand it, it's just not going to be easy and it's not going to be quick. I was gutted with what happened with my ex, then i got into a new relationship, but that didn't work out either, but now, i'm with someone who I think are a fantastic match for each other and things are looking up. I don't know how old you are, but believe me, you've got plenty of time to find happiness in that regard.

I have 2 dead cars, no job, no money, no motivation. I don't know how to get a job, and it's fucking me up. I think about it constantly, whenever people bring it up I can get really pissed because I know I should have a job. I feel that my home is sucking out all motivation I have, but I can't move out without money. i don't know what i'm doing anymore. [editline]26th January 2014[/editline] and no, i don't want to sell my cars because it'll be a huge loss on both.

Alright guys listen up, here is the scoop on Anti-Depressants. You are absolutely right Anti-Depressants AREN'T meant to fix a problem, they never were. Mental Health professionals KNOW this. So, if we know that they're not meant to fix a problem what do we use them for then???? Well, in the course of Mental Health treatment anti-depressants are used to make symptoms MANAGEABLE. A scenario for you... Patient comes to see a Psychiatrist/Prescriber with a complaint of Depression. The doctor after a lengthy interview decides, "Okay, this person appears to be Depressed!" So the Doctor recommends a prescription of Zoloft to help manage his symptoms! The patient then says..."but doctor! I don't want to use medication to fix my problem, and I don't want them to make me someone I'm not". The doctor than says..."Nononono, you got it all wrong. We aren't prescribing you Zoloft to fix your depression we are prescribing you Zoloft to help make your symptoms of depression more MANAGEABLE", so the patient says but doctor...How am I going to solve my depression? The doctor says "Well, I'm going to start you on this Zoloft but I'm also going to recommend you follow up with me or another provider for "psychotherapy" or in laymans terms "talk-therapy" I have a lot of useful skills I want to teach you about and many excercises to go over with you. This is a process that might take awhile but the true road to recovery lies with our COMBINED treatment of medication and talk therapy!". You can imagine the rest if you want. You need to trust your provider. For the most part these people are individuals who have gone through EXTENSIVE schooling and truely do know what the heck they're talking about. Now the above scenario is one of many possible scenarios, and there are cases where medication is really all that somebody needs. In conclusion, take your damn meds! They help! We wouldn't give them to people if they didn't and if turned them into mindless zomboids (if you feel like a mindless zomboid on your medication I recommend talking to your provider about your meds).

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;43678532]Alright guys listen up, here is the scoop on Anti-Depressants. You are absolutely right Anti-Depressants AREN'T meant to fix a problem, they never were. Mental Health professionals KNOW this. So, if we know that they're not meant to fix a problem what do we use them for then???? Well, in the course of Mental Health treatment anti-depressants are used to make symptoms MANAGEABLE. A scenario for you... Patient comes to see a Psychiatrist/Prescriber with a complaint of Depression. The doctor after a lengthy interview decides, "Okay, this person appears to be Depressed!" So the Doctor recommends a prescription of Zoloft to help manage his symptoms! The patient then says..."but doctor! I don't want to use medication to fix my problem, and I don't want them to make me someone I'm not". The doctor than says..."Nononono, you got it all wrong. We aren't prescribing you Zoloft to fix your depression we are prescribing you Zoloft to help make your symptoms of depression more MANAGEABLE", so the patient says but doctor...How am I going to solve my depression? The doctor says "Well, I'm going to start you on this Zoloft but I'm also going to recommend you follow up with me or another provider for "psychotherapy" or in laymans terms "talk-therapy" I have a lot of useful skills I want to teach you about and many excercises to go over with you. This is a process that might take awhile but the true road to recovery lies with our COMBINED treatment of medication and talk therapy!". You can imagine the rest if you want. You need to trust your provider. For the most part these people are individuals who have gone through EXTENSIVE schooling and truely do know what the heck they're talking about. Now the above scenario is one of many possible scenarios, and there are cases where medication is realy all somebody needs. Also it's really important to keep in mind...p In conclusion, take your damn meds! They help! We wouldn't give them to people if they didn't and if turned them into mindless zomboids (if you feel like a mindless zomboid on your medication I recommend talking to your provider about your meds).[/QUOTE] Well, I do have to say you make sense. But I still don't want to take meds. More pain -> more motivation to fix stuff for me. At least FOR ME.

I'm fucking so glad my anti-anxiety pills don't fuck with my sexual-desires and erections. It would suck ass. Only thing I get is bouts of depression and taco-stomach.

[QUOTE=Thaard;43680694]I'm fucking so glad my anti-anxiety pills don't fuck with my sexual-desires and erections. It would suck ass. Only thing I get is bouts of depression and taco-stomach.[/QUOTE] it's actually pretty good to not have that many sexual desires imo. I could become a priest if I keep this up.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;43678532]Alright guys listen up, here is the scoop on Anti-Depressants. You are absolutely right Anti-Depressants AREN'T meant to fix a problem, they never were. Mental Health professionals KNOW this. So, if we know that they're not meant to fix a problem what do we use them for then???? Well, in the course of Mental Health treatment anti-depressants are used to make symptoms MANAGEABLE. A scenario for you... Patient comes to see a Psychiatrist/Prescriber with a complaint of Depression. The doctor after a lengthy interview decides, "Okay, this person appears to be Depressed!" So the Doctor recommends a prescription of Zoloft to help manage his symptoms! The patient then says..."but doctor! I don't want to use medication to fix my problem, and I don't want them to make me someone I'm not". The doctor than says..."Nononono, you got it all wrong. We aren't prescribing you Zoloft to fix your depression we are prescribing you Zoloft to help make your symptoms of depression more MANAGEABLE", so the patient says but doctor...How am I going to solve my depression? The doctor says "Well, I'm going to start you on this Zoloft but I'm also going to recommend you follow up with me or another provider for "psychotherapy" or in laymans terms "talk-therapy" I have a lot of useful skills I want to teach you about and many excercises to go over with you. This is a process that might take awhile but the true road to recovery lies with our COMBINED treatment of medication and talk therapy!". You can imagine the rest if you want. You need to trust your provider. For the most part these people are individuals who have gone through EXTENSIVE schooling and truely do know what the heck they're talking about. Now the above scenario is one of many possible scenarios, and there are cases where medication is really all that somebody needs. In conclusion, take your damn meds! They help! We wouldn't give them to people if they didn't and if turned them into mindless zomboids (if you feel like a mindless zomboid on your medication I recommend talking to your provider about your meds).[/QUOTE] They didn't help for me, they only made things worse, and I'm sure the majority of people who have been on anti-depressants will agree that it didn't help them either. I've been on three sorts already for 3 years and I'm only 20. I've come off of them myself a year ago and counting because I was pretty much forced into taking the last two sorts. All of the appointments were pretty much "Hey, how are you? HAVE YOU BEEN TAKING THE TABLETS? I'M SERIOUS, THEY WILL HELP YOU! :D " When they in fact drove me to an even deeper hole and attempted suicide for months, as well as made the feelings to commit suicide worse too. Yep, that "helped me" all right. That and they kept on changing their minds of the time when they will start working, first it was a month, then it was 3 months, then 6 months, then a year... And so on. I couldn't take their shit any more so I had to stop after taking that particular medication for 6 months. I felt MUCH better after that and I'd rather feel real and be me rather than have the medication change me into someone completely different. Medication is pretty bad for you to "cover up" depression once you think about it.

[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;43681959]They didn't help for me, they only made things worse, and I'm sure the majority of people who have been on anti-depressants will agree that it didn't help them either. I've been on three sorts already for 3 years and I'm only 20. I've come off of them myself a year ago and counting because I was pretty much forced into taking the last two sorts. All of the appointments were pretty much "Hey, how are you? HAVE YOU BEEN TAKING THE TABLETS? I'M SERIOUS, THEY WILL HELP YOU! :D " When they in fact drove me to an even deeper hole and attempted suicide for months, as well as made the feelings to commit suicide worse too. Yep, that "helped me" all right. That and they kept on changing their minds of the time when they will start working, first it was a month, then it was 3 months, then 6 months, then a year... And so on. I couldn't take their shit any more so I had to stop after taking that particular medication for 6 months. I felt MUCH better after that and I'd rather feel real and be me rather than have the medication change me into someone completely different. Medication is pretty bad for you to "cover up" depression once you think about it.[/QUOTE] Sorry you had a bad experience with anti - depressants, but there's no way for a provider to definitely know what works for you and doesn't right off the bat. Also I'm gonna 100% disagree with you and say most people benefit from the right anti-depressants. Another thing with anti depressants is that they can make you worse before you get better, they can take a long time to build up their therapeutic effect so you HAVE to keep with them during their warm up period. Also consider this....people like to point the finger at anti-depressants for not working but I ask those same people, what have you been doing besides medication to cope and overcome depression? That has a huge effect too.

I drink or drug myself to sleep every night and day because I can't stand being awake but sleep just doesn't come to me without a little help. I have become a Modest Mouse song. :suicide: