I think preordering games because of tf2 items can sometimes be quite a good investment. I preordered football manager 2012 and a couple of months later sold the tf2 items for more than the game was worth.
[QUOTE=Dyneskye;39571306]I think preordering games because of tf2 items can sometimes be quite a good investment. I preordered football manager 2012 and a couple of months later sold the tf2 items for more than the game was worth.[/QUOTE]
But it's steam money. It's not money to use for college for example.
I think it's safe to say unless it's part of a series that you must own every game then Pre - Order otherwise wait to see if the is worth whatever the $$ XX is and save you'r self money if it's not
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;39571554]But it's steam money. It's not money to use for college for example.[/QUOTE]
He said a couple of months later, so I assume he sold them before the Steam market was available.
So, he got paypal money for it.
Anyway, I only preorder games I know I'm going to enjoy and have been waiting a while for.
Currently have the new Animal crossing and Pikmin 3 on preorder.
Preordering is stupid but that didn't stop me from preordering Crysis 3 - I'm a bad person.
I pre-ordered GTAV at Gamestop, and look where that got me. Nowhere. I haven't even read a single review of it yet! What! I am such a dummy fool!
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;39572051]Preordering is stupid but that didn't stop me from preordering Crysis 3 - I'm a bad person.[/QUOTE]
why would you Pre - Order C3 after C2 . ?
I love to pre-order games. It's nice to put money on something earlier and then when it releases you have new money to put on another game.
I pretty much pre-order every AAA title from Steam as soon as they come available. It's weird but I always look forward to buying games from Steam, even if I can't play them directly.
Only game I ever preordered was Borderlands 2, and it was because of the free Mechromancer class. I was gonna buy it anyway so what the heck.
I've only preordered games that I know that I will like
IE I'm only preording GTA V this year and that's it
I like how he whines about DLC that 99% of the time comes out as some cheap piece of DLC or like BF3 where they just give the physical warfare pack out for free and god forbid people might want to plan their budgets out with preorders.
[QUOTE=markg06;39572769]and god forbid people might want to plan their budgets out with preorders.[/QUOTE]
This is about 50% of the reason I pre-order games, with the other 50% being that it's from a developer I've already vetted. If it comes with special preorder shit that's cool, if it doesn't that's cool too, but I'm not going to stop pre-ordering games when I have a surplus of money and it's from a studio who's last game(s) I have thoroughly enjoyed. I do think blocking off gameplay content for pre-orders only and selling it for more money later is dumb but I just don't buy that as my form of protest.
Valve should have a system on Steam where you have to redeem a pre-order, rather than it just automatically unlocking when the game is released. That would solve the problem, you can get the bonuses but wait until you know the game is good.
I very rarely preorder. It's always a game I know I will like based on previews, trailers and gameplay trailers.
I laughed at the WarZ part, he was spot on about the "fans"
Pre-ordering Brink would be my biggest regret. Besides that I'm quite happy with my personal pre-order policy. Only games I know I'll like.
I have never preordered a game. Why? Because I know it will get cheaper later on.
His binary analysis is also something I don't like and something he has displayed quite often when it comes to the topic of game economics. There are only two types of people after a mediocre game is released: People who feel burned buying it, and people who are literally insane schills that hate other consumers. Could it not be possible that a third party exists, one that sees the problems with the game but can either look past them and enjoy it for what it is, or are hopeful of future developments? Also his quip at the end, "Will you be part of that solution or will you continue to be part of the problem". What problem am I a part of? Should I just not pre-order games anymore? Should I have the prescience not to pre-order "bad games"? What scale should I use, yours, or mine? Or Metacritics?
As I said above there is a lot to criticize about the increasingly cynical cashgrab techniques publishers are doing to try and beat the reviews and first impressions, but I don't really understand what his objective of the video was other than to tell us that.
The only game I've preordered was Saints Row 2
[QUOTE=DaWhatTheFox;39573517]I have never preordered a game. Why? Because I know it will get cheaper later on.[/QUOTE]
Problem with that is that you miss out on the debate. I sat out the Mass Effect 3 release, and within no time I heard the ending was shitty and just a different set of colors. This practically ruined my desire the get the game any time soon, and my ability to form an unbiased opinion of the experience once I do play it.
You're much more engaged in a game when you know there are a lot of people playing it at that point, even singleplayer ones.
For me preorder is just worth it, if you get some really fancy collectibles
and got something worth sitting on your shelf. Like statues, the book from Ni No Kuni, etc.
Because everything less... everything digital, is just a loss of time and money and will eventually
dissapear once the servers go down and nobody thinks that anyone will care about the game anymore.
And one day, most of the digital content will return in a "game of the year"-edition or similar.
With everything shifting into the DLC and cloud generation, you have less and less for your money and less over a longer timespan,
because you can't control what will evntually happen to the perorder packs, and fancy digital rights you have aquired over the last years
when someone decides to pull the plug.
Feels like only RTS and other strategy genres are safe these days.
I only pre-order games for the ability to pre-load and the only games I pre-order are games that I know I will enjoy.
The bonuses are just that to me, bonuses, not an incentive at all.
I really like Totalbiscuit, but the way he tends to preach to the choir gets a bit annoying at times.
Just fyi he's not saying pre-ordering all games is bad, he stated on twitter as well that, pre-ordering games from someone you know can deliver, and there is enough footage and benefits by doing so, by all means. I think this was more of a way to tell people to stop blindly pre-ordering games, as what happened with Aliens: Colonial Marines, lots of people pre-ordered expecting something completely different from what they got. Essentially a note to be careful when pre-ordering games with little to no real info barring promises and fancy trailers.
I was very close to pre-ordering Legends of Pegasus on steam, it was 10% off for pre-orders, 45€ game, from what the developers/pr claimed it was going to deliver, I was more than pleased. I held off until I would see more gameplay footage. They didn't have any public beta/press previews or anything, as it was closing in on release, I checked again for more gameplay footage, but there was almost nothing, just well crafted trailers, and snippets from in game.
When the game did release, it was essentially in a pre-alpha state, constant crashes, tooltips not working, AI completely broken, interface and resources didn't work. It was an absolute mess, I figured, I would wait 3 months and then check up on them. 3 months later the game was still broken, vast majority of the people pre-ordering was yelling for refunds. The company behind the game went bankrupt and the developers fired, to this day I am very glad I didn't pre-order it. Here's the game's forum [url]http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=55[/url]
After I pre-oredered Duke Nukem Forever I've never preordered from big publishers since. However, I'm happy to preorder from Indie teams. It's pretty safe to say that with (most) indie teams, the cash will be appreciated and whether the game is good or bad, you're only dropping about £5-£20 on it. It's also because with (most) indie teams, they haven't got the budget to lie to their customers on such a large scale as big developers do, so if the game's poor quality it's going to show (as it did with the WarZ, numerous times before release).
Only game i pre orderd were:
GTA IV
GTA V
Because i just know i will enjoy the shit out of it. Don't care if i get a bonus or not i just want to be sure i can get it.
I only pre-order games I know will be good because the price goes up by like £10 after release.
The only games I pre-ordered were games with TF2 pre-order items, which you could sell for cash again and make back half of the game value or something :v:
[QUOTE=don818;39568408]I completely agree with the "Pre-order rewards" bullshit.
I saw this with Company of Heroes 2 on Steam, and thought it was ridiculous. I checked THQ's store, you get all that shit + more if you preorder from them [B](minus the TF2 hats, but if you preorder a game for that, god help you).[/B]
Also, I like waiting to actually buy a game than preordering because if I preorder it, I have it sitting in the back of my mind knowing that shit I gotta wait for this game I threw money on already![/QUOTE]
W-whats wrong with buying games for Hats? I do it all the time... Is... is there something wrong with me? Nah it must be you.
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