[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;53124782]rivers[/QUOTE]
If those are rivers I believe my country is fucked
[QUOTE=Hauptmann;53125761]Peter Jackson is working on a WW1 documentary, his archive restoration is doing a pretty good job :
[vid]https://i.imgur.com/y0D7iG5.gifv[/vid]
[t]https://i.imgur.com/nNJyQtV.jpg[/t]
more here : [url]https://imgur.com/a/UpvxD[/url][/QUOTE]
Damn, that's unbelievably impressive.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;53125861]I actually like the simple and flat thing we've got going on these days
[t]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/2679535340_7ce498400d.jpg[/t]
[t]https://www.ovpro.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/NS-trein-op-station-Breda.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I disagree, it's simplistic and represents nothing. It's easy to read, and i do like that. But it's designed to be instructional and nothing else. So it has no intent behind it, it's not trying to express anything, it has no form, no higher function to it and no spirit. Ikea instruction manuals are very handy and useful, but not aesthetically pleasing. I don't seek them out as something beautiful. That style is going to die out and be forgotten, i garuntee it.
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/PRR_4877.JPG[/t]
Whereas you can still have functional designs that are also beautiful. Something as simple as five fine stripes down the side in the right way with minimalist lettering done in the right way can convey a lot. In this case, loewy intended the stripes to draw the eye to the engines at a distance as a sort of hazzard stripe, since they were so quiet they had a habit of "sneaking" up on people. But if it was just a giant hazzard stripe nobody would care about it. But it's also aesthetically pleasing, drawing out and emphasizing the form of the locomotive, making the locomotive look sleek, powerful and fast, while also expressing the modernist values/imagery of the time. IE the fascination with technological progression and industrial capacity of man. And that's why we remember it and find it gorgeous, it serves every possibly purpose decoration can serve, practical and aesthetic. And that's why this will survive in memory, and the current style will not.
And all that without a giant shapeless pictograph of an arrow on the side.
Also for fucks sake, the pictograph of the bicyle is [I]over top the fucking window[/I]. It's so poorly designed it's impeding the function of the windows. They can't even make something purely functional right.
[T]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6e/5d/07/6e5d07f7118e3f5d08d6afd9f9daf248.jpg[/T]
Also here's the best rail photograph i've ever seen, holy fuck.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53127498]Also for fucks sake, the pictograph of the bicyle is [I]over top the fucking window[/I]. It's so poorly designed it's impeding the function of the windows. They can't even make something purely functional right.
[/QUOTE]
I believe you can still see out of it, the pictograph is like a form of see through sticker.
Well it's obvious that you weren't gonna like that style of trains, trilby :v:
And that's of course fine. Differing opinions and all. But I personally think the DSB train looks sexy as fuck with that color scheme.
I don't like that school of design, i has fuck all to do with trains.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53127950]I don't like that school of design, i has fuck all to do with trains.[/QUOTE]
Your problems with the design are completely subjective and it's clear you favor older aesthetics and designs anyway.
[QUOTE=thejjokerr;53127992]The NS logo literally stands for going back (<) and forth (>) over the railroad tracks (=)
[URL="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandse_Spoorwegen#Logo"][1][/URL]
What more meaning do you want to a train company logo? I like the logo a lot and love the style of the trains. Though how the company operates is shit and I'm glad I have a car to get myself back and forth.
PS: I recall a pretty auxiliary picture of a massive NS train (yellow and blue) in some kind of dystopian setting. It being the only bit of colour in the piece. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, because I can't find it and I've been looking for it...[/QUOTE]
NS actually performs quite well compared to other national railway companies
not that NS doesn't deserve criticism or is perfect
Here's that picture, by the way
[t]http://yarr.me/c/1005/17/and-probably-still-late.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;53128361]NS actually performs quite well compared to other national railway companies
not that NS doesn't deserve criticism or is perfect
Here's that picture, by the way
[t]http://yarr.me/c/1005/17/and-probably-still-late.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I went on holiday to belgium a few years back and saw some of these coolio double decker trains
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53127950]I don't like that school of design, i has fuck all to do with trains.[/QUOTE]
honestly, when I think of trains and the railways, I think of the NS logo and colours
you could say it's because that aesthetic has been so dominant in the Netherlands. NS was the [I]only[/I] railway company until the 90's, and is still the dominant state-owned railway company.
But I also like the aesthetic and logo of the NS, and as thejjoker pointed out, it does have a meaning.
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[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;53128367]I went on holiday to belgium a few years back and saw some of these coolio double decker trains[/QUOTE]
looks kind of like a mix of these two
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/NS_DD-IRM.jpg[/t]
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/NS_Koploper_ICM_4227_verlaat_Utrecht_Centraal.jpg/1200px-NS_Koploper_ICM_4227_verlaat_Utrecht_Centraal.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;53128361]
[t]http://yarr.me/c/1005/17/and-probably-still-late.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Why is this not our future yet?
Because we haven't reached the appropriate level of dystopia yet. We need at least a 'Robocop' out of a 'Dredd'.
have you ever seen a sport where everything looks familiar and yet slightly incorrect in an unnerving way?
[video=youtube;bgr2zmq9CUk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgr2zmq9CUk[/video]
[QUOTE=meppers;53129628]have you ever seen a sport where everything looks familiar and yet slightly incorrect in an unnerving way?
[video=youtube;bgr2zmq9CUk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgr2zmq9CUk[/video][/QUOTE]
It's like it's from a world that's upside down
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53127498]I disagree, it's simplistic and represents nothing. It's easy to read, and i do like that. But it's designed to be instructional and nothing else. So it has no intent behind it, it's not trying to express anything, it has no form, no higher function to it and no spirit. Ikea instruction manuals are very handy and useful, but not aesthetically pleasing. I don't seek them out as something beautiful. [b]That style is going to die out and be forgotten, i garuntee it.[/b]
Whereas you can still have functional designs that are also beautiful. Something as simple as five fine stripes down the side in the right way with minimalist lettering done in the right way can convey a lot. In this case, loewy intended the stripes to draw the eye to the engines at a distance as a sort of hazzard stripe, since they were so quiet they had a habit of "sneaking" up on people. But if it was just a giant hazzard stripe nobody would care about it. But it's also aesthetically pleasing, drawing out and emphasizing the form of the locomotive, making the locomotive look sleek, powerful and fast, while also expressing the modernist values/imagery of the time. IE the fascination with technological progression and industrial capacity of man. And that's why we remember it and find it gorgeous, it serves every possibly purpose decoration can serve, practical and aesthetic. And that's why this will survive in memory, and the current style will not.
And all that without a giant shapeless pictograph of an arrow on the side.
Also for fucks sake, the pictograph of the bicyle is [I]over top the fucking window[/I]. It's so poorly designed it's impeding the function of the windows. They can't even make something purely functional right.[/QUOTE]
This is like an evolution of international/swiss style, which has been in use since the 1950s. You can definitely argue the aesthetic merit of it, because some people like it and some don't, but I [b]highly[/b] doubt you'll see it disappear any time soon
Also, the image of the bicycle over the window is almost invisible from the inside. They're printed on a kind of half-tone surface that you can easily see through from up close
Now that we've gone full flat with our aesthetic design, I'm curious to see where we go from here. It seems difficult to streamline things much more logo-wise.
I think Auxiliary Pics is the only thread where I jump to a random page and browse through the older posts.
You guys have good taste in sexy pics <3
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;53124511]logos of national railway companies in Europe
[t]https://i.redd.it/4hge7huyxm201.png[/t][/QUOTE]
What about Luxembourg?
[img]https://webfiles.luxweb.com/finfo/W126900FIA.GIF[/img]
I'm not entirely sure if I posted this already but this still remains one of my favorite places to date.
This is the Reschen lake in South Tyrol in Italy.
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Turm_Reschensee.JPG[/t]
During the winter the lake is often frozen, so you can actually walk up to the tower.
[img]https://www.suedtirolerland.it/images/cms/754x435/B-Vinschgau-9454.jpg[/img]
The story behind it also really cool.
[quote]In 1947 Montecatini received 30 million Swiss francs from the Swiss company Elektrowatt (de) for the construction of the dam (in exchange for 10 years of seasonal electricity), ironically after the population of Splügen had voted against the company's plans to build a dam that would have submerged that Swiss village. Graun's population did not have such success, despite the willing ear of Antonio Segni who later became Italy's prime minister. In total 163 homes and 523 hectares (1,290 acres) of cultivated land were submerged.[/quote]
Basically the entire town was drown against the will of the population and now only the church tower remains.
Been there twice now and I really like how the tower just stands out, it reminds me of some sort of fantasy setting.
Wow, the original church was built in the 1300s and they demolished it. European governments really don't care about history that they can't commercialize, do they?
I live in a country where the centre of the capital consists almost entirely of buildings dating back to the 15th Century, where the majority of the cities (Bruges,Gand,Antwerp,Tournai,Durbuy,Tongeren) have buildings dating back to the Middle Age, the same country that has the highest density of castles in Europe, but yeah, I guess the European governments don't care about History.
[t]https://cdn.theculturetrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/bruges-rozenhoedenkaai--jan-dhondt-courtesy-of-toerisme-brugge1.jpg[/t][t]http://www.lafarques.be/assets/f3e70dee-cf6f-47fc-a0d5-cd4822e73624/durbuy3.jpg[/t]
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Brussels_floral_carpet_B.jpg/1200px-Brussels_floral_carpet_B.jpg[/t][t]http://www.antwerp-airport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/shutterstock_557525077-antwerp.jpg[/t]
[t]https://ophelieluciano.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/dscn3734.jpg[/t][t]https://twisindezak.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/tongeren-4.jpg[/t]
and this is only about Belgium, I'd have a field day with the massive number of medieval (and from the classical Antiquity) buildings still in use today in the Netherlands,France and Germany.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53131130]Wow, the original church was built in the 1300s and they demolished it. European governments really don't care about history that they can't commercialize, do they?[/QUOTE]
The EU and UN actively work to preserve ancient sites and structures. There are entire cities (with surrounding communities) listed on the UN's World Heritage list.
Those buildings are commercialized and people are paying taxes on them. Italy still razed an unprofitable 700 year old church because it was inconvenient.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53131130]Wow, the original church was built in the 1300s and they demolished it. European governments really don't care about history that they can't commercialize, do they?[/QUOTE]
Don't generalize countries in Europe as one. They are vastly different from one another.
And of course there's massive efforts to preserve historical architecture.
[editline]14th February 2018[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53131224]Those buildings are commercialized and people are paying taxes on them. Italy still razed an unprofitable 700 year old church because it was inconvenient.[/QUOTE]
Italy =/= Europe.
For an anecdotal example, we have a big and refurbished cathedral in Lofoten.
While it's a tourist attraction of sorts, it doesn't have any kind of paid visiting stuff. You can just walk in.
And then we have hundreds and thousands of various preserved architecture and findings across the land, many that are out of reach and not really well known to the public - but preserved regardless.
But sure, just go ahead and dismiss every single country on an entire continent just based on a few anecdotes about a specific country.
[QUOTE=Hauptmann;53131179]I live in a country where the centre of the capital consists almost entirely of buildings dating back to the 15th Century, where the majority of the cities (Bruges,Gand,Antwerp,Tournai,Durbuy,Tongeren) have buildings dating back to the Middle Age, the same country that has the highest density of castles in Europe, but yeah, I guess the European governments don't care about History.
and this is only about Belgium, I'd have a field day with the massive number of medieval (and from the classical Antiquity) buildings still in use today in the Netherlands,France and Germany.[/QUOTE]
It's a shame that we would have a lot more examples if it weren't for WWII.
There's a town in France that was ordered to remain untouched to act as a memorial and museum:
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/6n8TLK.jpg[/IMG]
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Oradour-sur-Glane_Maison_et_Voiture.jpg[/t]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre[/url]
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53131224]Those buildings are commercialized and people are paying taxes on them. Italy still razed an unprofitable 700 year old church because it was inconvenient.[/QUOTE]
The italian government is struggling really hard to keep afloat, they have to make cuts and unfortunately historical sites and monuments are one of them. Things are degrading due to a lack of funding.
That said, a vast majority of european governments are investing a sizeable amount of funds to preserve ancients buildings and historical sites and I'm honestly glad of that fact.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;53131224]Those buildings are commercialized and people are paying taxes on them. Italy still razed an unprofitable 700 year old church because it was inconvenient.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, the "all of Europe is the same"-arguement. Look, just because one country did something once doesn't mean all of Europe did the same mistake.
The examples by Haupmann and Paul Simon have already proven your point null, as would travelling to any European country because no matter where you are in this vast continent there's ancient history around to this day.
From churches and cathedrals to mounuments and palaces, cobblestone streets to rural towns. This is one of the reasons I love to live in Stockholm: everyday on my way to work I pass through Gamla Stan- Old Town- as well as a number of historical buildings like the Royal Palace, Stockholm Townhall, etc.
I'm just going to drop some shameless pictures I took while going on a trip with my brother in Italy. Sorry if the pictures are to large.
The mountain we climbed is called Sasso Piatto which is almost 3000m high. It is located in South Tyrol, in the Dolomites. It was truly an amazing experience.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/sfOAxYL.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ITUCpDS.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/3GDkxt4.jpg[/img]
This is a picture of the mountains, the peak was on the right mountain.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/qqYLO92.jpg[/img]
Not sure if this panorama thing looks good.
[t]https://i.imgur.com/A1hyXhG.jpg[/t]
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