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Photo comparing the size of Union Pacific 4014(The Big Boy) to a Boeing 747, Diesel Locomotive, Common Sedan, School Bus, and a person. [T]https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13403200_981269205327207_4458922812749374166_o.jpg[/T]
[QUOTE=Reds;50537629][vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/wcxkfc.webm[/vid][/QUOTE] Jacques? Is that you?
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50531633][video=youtube;B9okBTLJVKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9okBTLJVKc[/video][/QUOTE] Sadly that mill is mostly idled and abandoned now. [img]http://chrislitherlandphotography.zenfolio.com/img/s2/v50/p1234230177-4.jpg[/img] [img]http://chrislitherlandphotography.zenfolio.com/img/s12/v172/p1233878555-4.jpg[/img] [img]http://chrislitherlandphotography.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v33/p1716612458-4.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Joazzz;50538197]The Temple of Steel Shrine of the Forge Master[/QUOTE] That's kinda giving me the mental image of forging and metalwork being a religion in the mad max universe. They think that the old world was made of and by metal, and to rebuild the civilization of the past they need to perfect metalworking and worship industrial trinkets. I wish i could draw, i'm just imagining the wounded Interceptor, limping through a vast industrial complex, the walls lined with boilers and steam hammers, being serviced by soot stained maniacs shoveling coal and beating metal trying to build a skyscraper or something to reclaim the world. All ruled over by some badass scarred to the bone with rivets in his skin. God i wish i could put that on paper [QUOTE=elevate;50541226]Sadly that mill is mostly idled and abandoned now. [/QUOTE] Yeah, it's sad to see industry die out, Bethleham steel in particular. So horribly emblematic of america as a whole [T]http://www.invisiblethreads.com/files/derivatives/photo/200511/12424-2005-bs-a03-08.jpg[/T] [T]http://files.on-this.website/675_15678_8257210.jpeg[/T] [T]http://files.on-this.website/0b1_15678_10216416.jpeg[/T] [T]http://www.marcreed.com/Uploads/MarcReedUploads/PublicCMS/SldShw/1_max_343.jpg[/T] [T]http://www.marcreed.com/Uploads/MarcReedUploads/PublicCMS/SldShw/1_max_337.jpg[/T] I once read an account that a pipe casting company that was a mile down river from a steel mill bought and shipped in steel from china to make their pipes, because it was cheaper than going one door down to get metal, and it had to cut costs to be even remotely competitive. Then that mill went bust, the town fell apart and the pipe place went out of business because there wasn't enough workforce in the town to support it since a majority worked at the mill. And now China itself is going bust because this industrial holocaust in america is killing their production since nobody's buying their steel Sometimes i wonder how the world hasn't stopped turning yet, goddamn
Because things change. Plastics have become a lot more prevalent now due to easier manufacturing, less weight, and has way more utility in everyday use and I think it is also cheaper? It seems more like steel has become much more specific in its' uses so why would we need extremely large amounts anymore?
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[QUOTE=1chains1;50543768]Because things change. Plastics have become a lot more prevalent now due to easier manufacturing, less weight, and has way more utility in everyday use and I think it is also cheaper? It seems more like steel has become much more specific in its' uses so why would we need extremely large amounts anymore?[/QUOTE] I'm less lamenting the changing flow of the world, and more the tragic domino effect of short sighted globalization at the expense of sustainable and pragmatic business practice, and it's effect on America and other similar nations like england. I just find steel industry as the perfect representation for the much larger problem plus i'm weird and i'm mesmerized by big, dangerous places and big machines doing big things but hey
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50541689]Sometimes i wonder how the world hasn't stopped turning yet, goddamn[/QUOTE] So long as China fudges its numbers the global economy as a whole remains stable. It's literally a country right now that manufactures things just to keep their own economic engine running. [img]http://i.imgur.com/x5mDof8.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=MadBomber;50538000]This thing is terrifying but metal as fuck [img]http://puu.sh/pvSTo/f5f4abf8a8.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Seeing these machines in a museum even as non-operational is still an experience. Pretty sure I saw some in Vienna.
[IMG]http://www.airportspotting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/MC-21-300_TASS.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE] Rollout ceremony for the Irkut MC-21/Yakovlev Yak-242 on June 8th. Tracing back to an unbuilt Soviet design from the early 1990s, the aircraft is expected to enter service in 2018 and is the first new airliner built in Russia in over 20 years after the Sukhoi Superjet which was introduced in 2011. Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is on the stage in the center of the photo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=pentium;50546641]So long as China fudges its numbers the global economy as a whole remains stable. It's literally a country right now that manufactures things just to keep their own economic engine running. [img]http://i.imgur.com/x5mDof8.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Goddamn that's one of the most depressing pictures I've ever seen
[QUOTE=pentium;50546641]So long as China fudges its numbers the global economy as a whole remains stable. It's literally a country right now that manufactures things just to keep their own economic engine running. [img]http://i.imgur.com/x5mDof8.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Yeah, i've seen some relatively old documentary about their ghost cities with malls that no one visits and apartment buildings no one lives in. Not sure it's still a thing there though.
[QUOTE=racerfan;50546987][IMG]http://www.airportspotting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/MC-21-300_TASS.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I'm just imagining that guy pulling a gigantic black sheet off of it like they do at car unveilings
[QUOTE=seba079;50548255]Goddamn that's one of the most depressing pictures I've ever seen[/QUOTE] Have you seen the worse? [t]http://radiostudent.si/sites/default/files/slike/2015-03-23-de%C5%BEela-izobilja-in-bede-39843.jpg[/t] [t]http://assets2.thecreatorsproject.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/c54146a87b455906609ffd3aa3b42345.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.trip.me/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Lagos-Nigeria.jpg[/t] Mexico city 4mil pop slum: [t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/82/20/98/822098545f94e0a5e773751b9d7535a3.jpg[/t] Cairo: [t]http://i.imgur.com/xUYHxAT.jpg[/t]
I think they are two different shades of depressing. One represents a situation where there is a huge amount of wealth, but the people in charge somehow cant make that translate to better lives for the people. Where the other is a total lack of wealth and people having to wallow in it.
[img]https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/9d9006e6240332fe5c6501f038d2a8e5.jpeg?quality=70&strip=all&w=640&h=480&crop=1[/img] [i]A vacant home sits in West Vancouver, Canada. Since 2014 the property has changed hands four times and its price has risen 65% from $5 million to $7.6 million. [img]http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/276998/slide_276998_2030143_free.jpg[/img] Designer Mathew Arthur spends time on his Macbook while at home in his 1987 Dodge Ram Prospector. With properties in Vancouver Proper now averaging over $1 million and the cost of rent on most suites creeping out of the affordability rate of all but the most wealthy citizens, he is like the uncounted thousands who now see their transportation as not only their way to commute to work but also their home.[/i]
Wow, 7 million? I wonder who in their right mind would pay that when you could save about 4.5M by moving to Southern California and buying this place. :v: [IMG]http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo/_new/Mansion5.grid-6x2.jpg[/IMG]
How did Vancouver real estate get so inflated?
[QUOTE=JDER14;50553580]How did Vancouver real estate get so inflated?[/QUOTE] I'll sum it up with two breathtaking photos. [t]http://www.teamsdesign.com/files/content/Get%20in%20Touch%20Shanghai/Get_in_Touch_Shanghai_shanghai%20city_1620x672.jpg[/t] [t]http://kingofwallpapers.com/beijing/beijing-012.jpg[/t] Greed and corruption. Poor regulation and loopholes has led to rampant land speculating and prospecting by the Chinese. In their efforts to hide assets and finances offshore they effectively poisoned the global real estate market and flooded it with cash from properties they were paying hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars more than the asking price. Many homes never to be occupied. Simply bought and sold like shares in a stock market. Houses unlike shares however do require maintenance. [img]http://d2ciprw05cjhos.cloudfront.net/files/v3/styles/gs_large/public/2014/09/hobbithouse.JPG?itok=YsFS7DzC[/img][img]http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/vancouverhome.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=620[/img] [img]http://d2ciprw05cjhos.cloudfront.net/files/v3/styles/gs_large/public/2014/09/COL_RealEstate1_2440.jpg?itok=xqiewTfk[/img][img]http://wpmedia.vancouversun.com/2016/05/vancouver-bc-empty-rundown-homes-are-plentiful-along.jpeg?quality=55&strip=all&w=840&h=630&crop=1[/img] These are just a fraction of the homes you can find scattered around Vancouver. Empty. Disused. Abandoned. Condemned. Only they often change hands. Sometimes more than twice a year. Sometimes a new prospector redevelops. What was once a heritage residence becomes a modern Vancouver Special, itself intentionally designed to be a multi-family building by means of yet more loopholes. It is believed that 70% of Canadians entering the housing market today will never own their own home. Many will live their lives in rental suites as others remain in the homes they grew up in. For years the idea of living at home at age 40 was considered an embarrassment and a burden on your parents. Now unfortunately it's the reality for many. They will never be able to leave. However sometimes the houses find a new life. [img]http://www.nickelbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/nickel-bros-dorothies-move-started.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.vancouversun.com/cms/binary/11400287.jpg?size=sw620x65[/img] [img]http://www.nickelbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/nickel-bros-header-house-image-640x-426.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cms/binary/7024410.jpg[/img] Along the Pacific Northwest as the cost of housing skyrockets, some people have found it more affordable to purchase physical Vancouver homes slated for demolition, jack them up, transport them by truck to the waterfront and barge the houses in one piece to cheaper undeveloped plots of land in northern Vancouver Island and the United States.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50541689]That's kinda giving me the mental image of forging and metalwork being a religion in the mad max universe. They think that the old world was made of and by metal, and to rebuild the civilization of the past they need to perfect metalworking and worship industrial trinkets. I wish i could draw, i'm just imagining the wounded Interceptor, limping through a vast industrial complex, the walls lined with boilers and steam hammers, being serviced by soot stained maniacs shoveling coal and beating metal trying to build a skyscraper or something to reclaim the world. All ruled over by some badass scarred to the bone with rivets in his skin. God i wish i could put that on paper [/QUOTE] Use prose as your medium. I want more dammit! Some other stuff in this sorta vein might be the pit DLC from fallout 3, the last working steel mill in the USA can only be sustained by slaves who die from disease. Some of the warhammer novels have cool "machine cult" stuff; dark mechanicum and the gaunts ghosts novels have a number of bad guy cults who are somewhat industrial in theme. Maybe something along the theme of the world is dying and people believe industry is the way to save it ironically making it worse. Or perhaps post malthusian collapse, hunter gatherers and primitive farmers living within the creaking remains, uncontaminated water and soil being sought after, earth quakes bringing down vast cascades of slag, wrought metal and rust red water. (like life on post collapse trantor in foundation series)
[video=youtube;zhJF_hTJ2Rw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhJF_hTJ2Rw[/video] Im glad that here in Seattle steel is still being made, specifically at a mill owned by Nucor Steel. [video]https://youtu.be/7hnXMI_LK7k[/video]
[QUOTE=pentium;50552310][img]https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/9d9006e6240332fe5c6501f038d2a8e5.jpeg?quality=70&strip=all&w=640&h=480&crop=1[/img] [i]A vacant home sits in West Vancouver, Canada. Since 2014 the property has changed hands four times and its price has risen 65% from $5 million to $7.6 million. [img]http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/276998/slide_276998_2030143_free.jpg[/img] Designer Mathew Arthur spends time on his Macbook while at home in his 1987 Dodge Ram Prospector. With properties in Vancouver Proper now averaging over $1 million and the cost of rent on most suites creeping out of the affordability rate of all but the most wealthy citizens, he is like the uncounted thousands who now see their transportation as not only their way to commute to work but also their home.[/i][/QUOTE] That ram is probably bigger than the room I get working in a travelling funfair :v: [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2488893/20160516_190519.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=pentium;50553643]*Vancouver realestate*[/QUOTE] Accurate. Real estate here is a madhouse, and 100% artificial. Chinese toffs want to get their money out of the ever more squalid chinese economy, and come to vancouver. The local goverment wants to make their economic dick look bigger so do everything they can to accommodate them. There's some beautiful houses down where my grandparents used to live, real '20's-'40's manor type things, worth 10's of millions, that are derelict. Windows broken, lawns unkempt, paint peeling and doors left open. Usually because after the house "sold" during the summer to someone who'll never see it, nobody ever showed up after the open house to do anything as crass as closing the fucking windows. So they sit through the winter, 8k square foot manors, fully furnished, doors loose and windows open. Rain and storms passing freely through them. Not to get into the personal gripes, but mom took dad for the [URL="http://phillegree.com/mylistings.html/listing.v992645-1130-kilmer-road-north-vancouvr-v7k1r1.29168364"]lovely old house[/URL], and he moved into his childhood home after his mom moved on, which i'm at for the time being. And it's not great. Garage is just a shed with ambition, the basement is bare concrete and spiders and the upstairs ain't much better. But just today i had a real estate womble come to the door with a 1.8 million offer on it. And this happens every other day. Then up the coast, near gibsons or whatever, my dad's friends with a real estate agent. And starting this year, every week a greyhound three axle bus full of chinese folks will show up and go down the road. Without a word of exaduration, every single for sale sign they see will be bought and rarely moved in to. I know that sounds like some racist anecdote, but i garuntee it's 100% truth without an ounce of hyperbole. It has to end soon though. I"m sure the chinese goverment resent the hole in their economy, and if nobody can afford to fucking live here, our economy has to start slowing, which is the only thing that'll get city hall's attention. But hey who knows, maybe that's just the delusional dreams of someone who lives in the real world, unlike these fucking people on the council who just look at spreadsheet numbers going up to validate their existence and political career. [QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50554142]Use prose as your medium. I want more dammit! Some other stuff in this sorta vein might be the pit DLC from fallout 3, the last working steel mill in the USA can only be sustained by slaves who die from disease.[/QUOTE] Fallout 4 had a steel mill which was staffed by a cult and goes vietnam on your ass if you use it as a fast travel point. And you really don't want to read my writing. A while ago i started on a fantasy/contemporary setting book, i got 130 thousand words in and realized i hadn't even finished the first act and dropped it. I make Chris Paolini look short winded without actually getting anywhere or doing anything. My charicters are basically all very extreme personalities amounting to a chopped up mary sue of myself. Nobody wants that Also since we're still on about steel mills, be sure to remember to dry your scrap charge next time you're working the bucket [video=youtube;-RYCXDUt2m8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYCXDUt2m8[/video] [video=youtube;1RJfnk2S330]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RJfnk2S330[/video] And hey, have some Huletts too. 1908 engineering in service in 1990, because why not. They look like they escaped from half life 2, gracefully gliding along their rails like bad brush animations
Kinda steel related: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lavm7CausyA[/media] [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50555574] [video=youtube;1RJfnk2S330]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RJfnk2S330[/video] And hey, have some Huletts too. 1908 engineering in service in 1990, because why not. They look like they escaped from half life 2, gracefully gliding along their rails like bad brush animations[/QUOTE] Reminds me of these things: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwTbdTuuwPI[/media] Ship unloading has changed a shitload in the past 100 years. [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKJ8pJnabc[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVmJJCrJRPA[/media] Same general location, about a 70 year difference. What took 80+ longshoremen to do then, takes maybe a handful to do now. On ships that are many times the size, with cargo many times as heavy.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50555574] Also since we're still on about steel mills, be sure to remember to dry your scrap charge next time you're working the bucket --- [/QUOTE] The related video. Jesus christ. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKodUpErR8[/media] Like, what do you even do in a situation like that?
[QUOTE=pentium;50557342]The related video. Jesus christ Like, what do you even do in a situation like that?[/QUOTE] Run?
Jesus christ, Pentium's video. Molten steel both terrifies and amazes me. I am fascinated by all of the steelmaking stuff.
[QUOTE=pentium;50557342]The related video. Jesus christ. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKodUpErR8[/media] Like, what do you even do in a situation like that?[/QUOTE] this is so hellish it's frightening.
[QUOTE=pentium;50557342]The related video. Jesus christ. Like, what do you even do in a situation like that?[/QUOTE] Well, I imagine put out whatever fires its starting and wait for it all to cool down. Spraying lots of water probably helps. Then afterwards there is going to be a lot of work to get all that shit out of wherever it ran into. Also considering the place is designed to handle molten steel, I imagine there are some kind of design considerations for this sort of thing. I think this belongs here. (steel mills are some of my favorite places) [video]https://youtu.be/ZLkOvBpPpU8[/video]
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50555574] And you really don't want to read my writing. A while ago i started on a fantasy/contemporary setting book, i got 130 thousand words in and realized i hadn't even finished the first act and dropped it. I make Chris Paolini look short winded without actually getting anywhere or doing anything. My charicters are basically all very extreme personalities amounting to a chopped up mary sue of myself. Nobody wants that [/QUOTE] I'd be interested in seeing that, if nothing else as an example of how to waste that much time in a story.
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